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a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Epsilon_Dark » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:27 am

i thought of this question for a wile now, and just seeing it happen on a difrent site.
With this Question i am meaning No disrespect to this Site's Adminastive Pannle, now is this question is not ment to Flame any one here. but has any one ealse seen, where a admin might have Over steped their boundries?

I.E. Rude comit to a Non admin member, over art work or just a outta the blue comment
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby The_Prof » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:44 am

oh I've seen it happen quite a lot really, just not on this forum as of yet, many of my old forums have had admin abuse of power issues. The problem with it is that you never know what a moderator or admin could be like until they hit the spot of power. A person could be just fine, fun loving, and an awesome person to be around, but then when they hit a position of power they become super dictator controlling monster man/woman. I just suppose it goes to show you that absolute power corrupts absolutely
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Epsilon_Dark » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:58 am

The_Prof wrote:oh I've seen it happen quite a lot really, just not on this forum as of yet, many of my old forums have had admin abuse of power issues. The problem with it is that you never know what a moderator or admin could be like until they hit the spot of power. A person could be just fine, fun loving, and an awesome person to be around, but then when they hit a position of power they become super dictator controlling monster man/woman. I just suppose it goes to show you that absolute power corrupts absolutely



well who ever movie people had uncle Ben from the frist spider man qoute with with great power comes great responceabilty that i have allways said is ture, With power people can be Corrupted. easy way to look at it is at your job, lets say their a good person but soon as they get power ie going up the the rung becoming a Supervisor, their get that tastes of power they will eather A Change or B be the same but if you look at it by mathmatick only a bout 5% of people remain the same as they was before the rising on the rung
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby xionzappa » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:00 am

Here's another question. If there is abuse of power here, will the people who have seen it want to say so openly where the mods they're talking about can view? x3 I'm not saying there is, far from it, but if a mod abuses power, would someone want to say so? After all, if they abuse power, the person speaking against them could get banned by the power abuser. I'm just glad Eka's is a place where we can bring this up without getting kicked.
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Epsilon_Dark » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:02 am

Well lets hope i don't get kicked for such a question :D
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby unicorn » Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:25 am

but has any one ealse seen, where a admin might have Over steped their boundries?


Yep, the previous United States president was quite good at this. :P
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Deathworks » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:08 am

Hi!

While I can understand your curiosity about this issue, I want to point out two important rules from our site rules:

9) Private communication between the moderators and administrators of the site and the users is not to be made public on this site or by any other venue.

You are not permitted to publicize or discuss any private correspondence (including escalation) received from any of the aforementioned.

10) Warnings and bans are not to be discussed on the forum.

Such matters shall remain private between the administrators and moderators, and the user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through e-mail or private messaging. Likewise, discussions regarding moderator actions are not permitted on the forum or the chat.


See especially rule 10 which prohibits the very theme of this thread (rule 9 is a rule people may accidentally violate if they want to discuss things in detail).

In general concerning your feelings about moderators/administrators:
If there is a problem, try to discuss it with the moderator/administrator in question. It may be that there is just a misunderstanding.
If the problem can not be resolved between the two of you and it is an issue that can't be ignored, ask Eka for her thoughts on this.
If you are dissatisfied with Eka's decision to the point that you can't bear it, then I am sorry, but you should consider ceasing activity here. This is Eka's site, so her word is final here.

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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Jaqui » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:27 pm

I havent noticed any problems with admistration on this site, i think they do a great job :D
I have seen it on other sites though, and it can really put people off going to that site, i think :(
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby symbiote01 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:33 pm

unicorn wrote:Yep, the previous United States president was quite good at this. :P


And the current one, even more.</offtopic>

In general, an admin's job is to keep things civil, to de-escalate issues, and promote the site in a positive light. In other words, if there is anything, anything that might be construed as negative (illegal, immoral, unjust, of offensive), it is their responsibility to see that it 'goes away'. It is their duty to squash flamewars, regardless of the content of the flame.
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Epsilon_Dark » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:53 pm

Deathworks wrote:Hi!

While I can understand your curiosity about this issue, I want to point out two important rules from our site rules:

9) Private communication between the moderators and administrators of the site and the users is not to be made public on this site or by any other venue.

You are not permitted to publicize or discuss any private correspondence (including escalation) received from any of the aforementioned.

10) Warnings and bans are not to be discussed on the forum.

Such matters shall remain private between the administrators and moderators, and the user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through e-mail or private messaging. Likewise, discussions regarding moderator actions are not permitted on the forum or the chat.


See especially rule 10 which prohibits the very theme of this thread (rule 9 is a rule people may accidentally violate if they want to discuss things in detail).

In general concerning your feelings about moderators/administrators:
If there is a problem, try to discuss it with the moderator/administrator in question. It may be that there is just a misunderstanding.
If the problem can not be resolved between the two of you and it is an issue that can't be ignored, ask Eka for her thoughts on this.
If you are dissatisfied with Eka's decision to the point that you can't bear it, then I am sorry, but you should consider ceasing activity here. This is Eka's site, so her word is final here.

Deathworks

Deathwork i am not meaning this stite at all and i am not meaning in Privet message ,i'm talking a bout Admin that has snaped at out of the blue comit that realy should have and rude comits by any lets Admin
But that5 comit was MAde open Fourm thats the kind of rude admin comit i was talking a bout
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Epsilon_Dark » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:00 pm

ok deathworks just to clear my thoughts up for you im talking a bout the Genral misues of power of they them self made the NEgative comit a bout some one out of the blue then the person retorts one then then they retort with another more sarcastic post, then locks the Thred cuse of hes/she says ohh i don't whant this to turn in to a flame war so i am locking this thred after he or she was the only one doing the flaming


ohh yeah sorry for the dubble post i couldn't see what i was typing cuse the type box ws bouncing around on the frist and made it real hard to type


unicorn wrote:
but has any one ealse seen, where a admin might have Over steped their boundries?


Yep, the previous United States president was quite good at this. :P



nd unicorn this one hasn't done much better
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Mirukani » Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:34 pm

I have seen moderators on other forums that, while not going on a power-hungry rampage, did try (and sometimes succeed) in silencing opinions that contradicted their own, even when the forum rules clearly stated that the moderator in question was in the wrong. Places where this is allowed to happen for too long are not fun places to be, and even worse when the site administrator turns out to be a dictator that bans people simply for disagreeing with them.

Thankfully, I have not seen evidence of such things on this site. I prefer open, honest communities where a moderator's personal opinions don't have an impact on their duty to uphold site rules.


Also, I believe that this thread is more suited to the Rest of the World forum, rather than General Vore Discussion. Seeing as the topic is not about vore, but rather administrators and moderators - presumably from any community, and not just this one.
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Surge » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:22 pm

Tons of times. Usually in the chat.
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby Deathworks » Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:30 pm

Hi!

Please allow me to clarify a few things about my post then:

First of all, as you suspected, I thought you were talking about moderators/administrators of the Portal specifically.

Secondly, you do not need to worry; while I am listed as a global moderator, I actually can only moderate a single subforum. So, I couldn't lock this thread or wield any mod power here anyway.

Third, while my quoting the forum rules was based mainly on the first assumption which you say was wrong, there was also another reason for me: I wanted to remind people who wanted to answer in this thread about the relevant rules. As I said in the initial post, people providing examples may accidentally break the rules. Thus, I wanted to point this out beforehand so that no one gets into unnecessary trouble.

Finally, allow me to stress again that I do not think you had negative intentions and likewise, I did not mean to attack you. I was worried about trouble that may arise and tried to warn about that.


Since you are not talking about the Portal or specifically vore, I think Mirukani is right to suggest moving the thread to the Rest of the World section.

Deathworks

EDIT: Because you seem to have had the wrong impression, I want to clarify this little tidbit: Since I was assuming that you were referring to administrators/moderators here at the Portal, I thought the following sentence of rule 10 applied:

Likewise, discussions regarding moderator actions are not permitted on the forum or the chat.


The way I understand it, this sentence expands above the PM issues as well as the bans and warnings... Sorry, but if I feel there is a misunderstanding, I have to try to clear it up.
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Re: a deep down honstly well thought question

Postby UndeadApex » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:06 pm

Deathworks wrote:Hi!

While I can understand your curiosity about this issue, I want to point out two important rules from our site rules:

9) Private communication between the moderators and administrators of the site and the users is not to be made public on this site or by any other venue.

You are not permitted to publicize or discuss any private correspondence (including escalation) received from any of the aforementioned.

10) Warnings and bans are not to be discussed on the forum.

Such matters shall remain private between the administrators and moderators, and the user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through e-mail or private messaging. Likewise, discussions regarding moderator actions are not permitted on the forum or the chat.


See especially rule 10 which prohibits the very theme of this thread (rule 9 is a rule people may accidentally violate if they want to discuss things in detail).

In general concerning your feelings about moderators/administrators:
If there is a problem, try to discuss it with the moderator/administrator in question. It may be that there is just a misunderstanding.
If the problem can not be resolved between the two of you and it is an issue that can't be ignored, ask Eka for her thoughts on this.
If you are dissatisfied with Eka's decision to the point that you can't bear it, then I am sorry, but you should consider ceasing activity here. This is Eka's site, so her word is final here.

Deathworks


In other words, DO NOT QUESTION SUPREME OVERLORD EKA VON BISMARK
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