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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Hagen » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:04 pm

Kharon wrote:
Hagen wrote:I feel cynical is unrealistic. As a gambler the law of averages shows us that worst possible out come does not in fact happen each and every time.
to assume a negative out come is inevitable is in fact it's own detachment from reality (or rather selective reality).


As a gambler, you should also know that the house always wins. :)



and that's not always a bad thing. It all depends on the house don't it?
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby C-B-A » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:03 pm

I contacted a physiologist specializing in sexuality about the subject for another thread here but he basically agrees vore is just a harmless fantasy fetish and separate for cannibalism by a lot.

so at least to sexual specialists vore isn't a mental illness
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby jamesthedog » Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:30 pm

I have asperger's symdrome, and certainly with the furries I know, several of them either have that or something similar, so seeing as something like that drags people into furry, I wouldn't be suprising if it drags many of us into vore as well.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Edibility » Wed Mar 06, 2013 3:36 pm

One of the biggest problems users have on this board is narcissism
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Kharon » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:30 pm

Edibility wrote:One of the biggest problems users have on this board is narcissism


Someone appears to have an axe to grind.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Ephriam » Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:59 pm

tqueensway wrote:Well, of course. Technically any paraphilia that doesn't aid in breeding more humans is technically a disorder. I'm (mostly) homosexual and am more than aware of the fact that my sexual orientation doesn't correlate towards breeding and is therefore a defect. Doesn't bother me any.



I don't think that most professionals think like that anymore. Fecundity isn't the quality by which a stable and self-effaced individual is judged. The standard by which something is considered a disorder depends more on whether or not a condition causes distress for the individual and/or the community. I don't think that homosexuality would qualify as a defect by today's mental health workers.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Gah » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:38 pm

Every community has their nuts and drama. If anything, and quite ironically, the vore community has far less nuts then other communities based around some much more 'acceptable' material, porn or otherwise. As already pointed out by this statement..


Jaxed wrote:
tqueensway wrote:Yet surprisingly, I've never seen such insane posts on Gaming/Synthesizer/Programming/Comedy forums.


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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby tqueensway » Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:09 pm

Gah wrote:Every community has their nuts and drama. If anything, and quite ironically, the vore community has far less nuts then other communities based around some much more 'acceptable' material, porn or otherwise. As already pointed out by this statement..


Jaxed wrote:
tqueensway wrote:Yet surprisingly, I've never seen such insane posts on Gaming/Synthesizer/Programming/Comedy forums.


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I've never seen a gamer threaten to kill him or herself over a plot they didn't like.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Kharon » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:42 am

tqueensway wrote:I've never seen a gamer threaten to kill him or herself over a plot they didn't like.


http://www.rpgownage.com/2011/03/697/

I'd say "we win", except that I'm also an avid gamer myself and that suicide per capita among vorarephiles might still be higher. Just thought I'd throw out some instances of crazy gamers.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Kirah » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:00 pm

I have to say, I'm quite detached from reality myself. I spend a lot of my time researching the phenomenon known as "dreaming", developing small-time videogames, playing videogames, lurking/posting on these forums, and hosting LAN parties about twice a week. Nothing wrong with being a little detached from reality.

But I have to say, having suicidal thoughts because a work of fiction didn't end the way you wanted it to is wrong. Just plain wrong. You need to be able to control your fetishes, and be able to separate reality from fantasy. Or your fetishes will control you.

And even though the whole "alternate universes" theory is interesting, going out of your way to try and improve those theoretical alternate universes is taking it a bit too far. I'm not going to bad-mouth a story which ends in digestion just because "You just killed someone in an alternate universe!".

Vorarephiles aren't necessarily more likely to have mental illnesses. Every community has its share of mental patients, so to speak.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby tqueensway » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:52 pm

Kirah wrote:I have to say, I'm quite detached from reality myself. I spend a lot of my time researching the phenomenon known as "dreaming", developing small-time videogames, playing videogames, lurking/posting on these forums, and hosting LAN parties about twice a week. Nothing wrong with being a little detached from reality.

I don't see how creating things within reality is a detachment from reality 0.o Nor do I see how studying dreams, a natural phenomenon, is. Writing The Lord of the Rings is one thing; believing you're a hobbit is another entirely.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Kirah » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:31 pm

tqueensway wrote:
Kirah wrote:I have to say, I'm quite detached from reality myself. I spend a lot of my time researching the phenomenon known as "dreaming", developing small-time videogames, playing videogames, lurking/posting on these forums, and hosting LAN parties about twice a week. Nothing wrong with being a little detached from reality.

I don't see how creating things within reality is a detachment from reality 0.o Nor do I see how studying dreams, a natural phenomenon, is. Writing The Lord of the Rings is one thing; believing you're a hobbit is another entirely.


Yeah, I guess you're right.

I mostly meant, I'm more often busy in a virtual environment or in programming environments than I'm busy in actual reality, although I'm probably not as detached from reality as some others may be. Like I said, nothing wrong with being a little detached.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby Nerva » Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:45 pm

Kirah wrote:I mostly meant, I'm more often busy in a virtual environment or in programming environments than I'm busy in actual reality, although I'm probably not as detached from reality as some others may be. Like I said, nothing wrong with being a little detached.

I think you're misunderstanding just what 'detached from reality' actually means.

A person that's detached from reality has firmly-held beliefs that are patently absurd. Like believing that they aren't human, or thinking they can fly, or that werewolves are real, stuff like that. Most of the time, it's pretty innocuous and simply quirky, but it can get dangerous - like someone believing that killing someone is doing them a favor, or thinking that they can gain the power of a person by ritually cannibalizing them.

Just because you associate with virtual reality frequently, or exercise your imagination, or dream, doesn't make you detached from reality. So long as you know they're not real, you're quite firmly grounded. It's when you can no longer tell whether or not these things are real after you're done interacting with them that you can say you're detached.

I RP a lot. My partners and I frequently indulge in some very fantastical situations, but at the end of the day, when my partner and I part ways, we both know it was just an exercise in fantasy and group storytelling, nothing more. We wouldn't be detached from reality.
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Re: Mental Illness & Vorarephilia

Postby sd43 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:29 pm

I don't think there is any correlation between vorarephilia and mental illness. If you look, you will see that although there are posts like this, the VAST majority of people on the site are not like this.
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