Thesunrisemoose wrote:I'm just saying that I feel we have the right to at least know what they're offering. I don't live somewhere where the internet is censored by the government or any other sources. All I was trying to say is that just because this new member is beloved or hasn't (and will never) be granted their own section, doesn't mean we should be denied the right to see what it is. That's all.
I can kinda understand what you're getting at, but the rules are not as restrictive as you make them out to be.
For one, there's a
public area of the forum where advertisements for commissions and such are allowed.
Anyone can make a thread there. You don't need a section specifically devoted to you just to post advertisements for commissions and donations for your personal artwork. Adonis1983 is not disadvantaged in any way compared to the bulk of artists on this site. Those artists that do have their own section have reasons for their sections; since you pointed him out, Karbo's main reason (from what I can tell, anyway) is that he's a prolific artist with a long-standing involvement in the community. He didn't get that way overnight, or for no reason, either.
Secondly, and possibly one of the biggest issues is the site Adonis1983 was advertising from. That particular site has used automated spamming on these boards in the past, advertising tons of non-vore-related mass-produced "professional" porn. Anyone advertising stuff from a site known for automated spamming is going to look suspicious, especially if they've made no effort to introduce themselves to the community or participate in discussion at all. If the join date and last visited dates on her profile are anything to go by,
Adonis1983 has spent a grand total of 2 hours, 53 minutes on Eka's and has made zero posts that weren't about advertising her vore movies,
one of 'em sounding rather disdainful at that. Now I dunno about you, but that demonstrates a pretty flagrant disregard for the community, to me. This is also
not the only time someone from that site has decided to come here solely to advertise. That time, Eka let it go with an apology from the offender. This time? Not so fortunate.
Third, posting in the right section is not hard. They're pretty clearly described, many of the rules are posted right at the top of the relevant section indexes in bright red boxes, and if that's not enough, there's always the option of
PMing Eka herself. She may be the site admin, but she's not unnapproachable. Hell, I've talked to her about rules issues and clarifications on a couple of occasions. And if Eka is unavailable, there's always
the rest of the staff - anyone with a
green name is a good place to start, and I'd recommend
Pegadygor and
Requiem in particular since I see them on the forums most often.
Finally, let's look at Rule #15 itself, again. I want to point out something very important about it.
The Site Rules wrote:Posts discussing or linking to any for profit organization are must request permission before any posting, even if related to vore.
This right here implies that
it is possible to gain permission to advertise a paysite on Eka's. Notice, it doesn't say that linking to a for-profit organization
is completely forbidden. It says that linking to a for-profit organization
requires permission. So again, why not just
PM Eka, and get that permission before posting? It's so very simple. It's not like there's a million-odd bureaucratic forms to fill out, requiring you to sign away your home, your car, your bank account, your life, your soul, and your firstborn child. It's just
one PM, a little waiting to get an affirmative, and then you post. Not hard at all. Hell, here's an example of
a thread that got just that sort of permission before it was posted. And
here's another person who was kind enough to try and get permission - Eka laid down a few restrictions, but didn't absolutely say "no."
So where's the censorship? Restricting advertising is necessary because this site is publically searched, and there are a
ton of advertisers out there who'd love nothing more than to unleash robot after robot onto these forums to clog it up with advertisements. The only way to keep them off is to make it abundantly clear that it offends the community, would be counterproductive, and would get edited or deleted posthaste. Yet this site also
allows advertisers who, in good faith, want to make something relevant available,
provided they respect the community enough to get permission first. Personally speaking, I don't think that's too much to ask.
Now, as for me and my actions, I've already gave my reasons for doing that, and I stand by 'em. So far, you're the only person who's ever taken issue with it, at least to my face. Moreover, rather than a random flame, you're actually trying to make an intelligent discussion out of it, and I can respect that. But on the other hand, this ain't really the place to discuss the matter.
That would be PMs. As far as seeing my posts in every thread you go to, I'm sorry to hear you feel that way, but consider this: for every two or three of those you
do see, on average, there's at least one you
don't, because the poster fixed up their post and I deleted mine. I've even had people thank me for posting warnings and reminders, because it lets them fix the problem before the mods have to step in and bring the hammer down. I do it because of that, and that's the last I'll say on the topic.