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Postby Deathworks » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:15 pm

Hi!

First a caveat - at the moment, I am in the middle of moving, so I have only limited time, meaning responses and production will be slow.

Now, on topic, I have tried the game and found it quite interesting. However, I am sticking to the normal, official version, modding it only slightly myself.

Since it seems to be missing from this thread, here is the link to the current development page:

http://rsg.matrix.jp/rsg/

That page is interesting for people, because there are a lot of other files there. First of all, there are several variants of the game, though the one Chaotic chose is the most vorish one. There is Wiz-Ex, where there is a kind of consumption usually done by slimes but which can easily be combined with the queen bee without looking funny. Wiz-Ex does have some exploration missions with some find item, use item riddles. There is an action variant, which seems to be very much in its beginning stages. Then, there is the original RPG2000 version of the game, which is probably not vorish at all, but I have not played enough of it (it has an action combat system (T_T). In addition, there are some sidestories (Flash games) as well as some new moves, including "vacuum", which combines a shrinking suction with devour.

Of course, if you create some nice stuff, I can only encourage you to share it with the Japanese people as well.

Anyhow, I am willing to help with language problems concerning the documentation and so on, although I will be relatively slow due to time constraints.

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Postby Chaotic » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:27 pm

Any form of help from you is much appreciated :D !

I knew about that link and the other games but I was a little hesitant about posting it because I feared the message boards connected to it might not take too kindly to "foreigners" asking questions about the game.

It's really too bad about the sudden halt in development of WizEx. The Rpg exploration element of it is pretty interesting and I'm sure could be expanded on exponentially with more maps and such.

ROA 3 is also a game I would keep an eye on as it seems the Plant monster might be added soon. The boards seems to be in sometype of copyright argument about it though so I don't know when they'll add the Plant. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Anyways like I said at the beginning of this post any translation help of the documents to modify the game are much appreciated :D .
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Postby Deathworks » Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:57 am

Hi!

Well, as a place to ask questions, the Japanese board is probably not a resource for most people here. Still, because of the uploader there and the stuff they have there, I thought the information would be interesting for people here.

As for being active there, I was thinking about if someone came up with new sprite sheets or maybe even a new skill ('vacuum', for instance, seems to have been created combining two existing skills ), they may consider sharing it with the Japanese people via the uploader (and maybe announce it on the BBS). In my opinion, that would have the best chances of encourages developments we would find favorable.

I have to admit that I have not yet have had time to look at the BBS and what exactly is going on there right now.

Currently, real life stuff is really taking a toll on me, but as time permits, I will try to work on translations for the "normal" game (although I also really like the potential of Wiz Ex). Since the documentation is spread over so many different files and stuff, any field/file you would have to worked on first?

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Postby Chaotic » Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:59 pm

Hehe yeah real life problems love being the largest obstacle in peoples way. I sometimes don't understand how I make it through the crapload of projects and essays thrown my way. Anyways enough about that :) .

If there's anything I would request translated it would be the files that pertain to adding more enemies. I would love stickin more hungry monsters into the game for the unfortunate cast of girls to go up against :-D .

Oh and it seems the Japanese board is well aware of this thread and the site now. I don't know if that's a bad thing but I sure hope we can create sometype of partnership or at least be allowed to view their work. I would understand if they were cautious around us because a similar site pertaining to Mugen releases was vandalized when some jackass posted child pornography all over the site. This eventually lead to them closing it down which is unfortunate.

To those who save or view the link I ask that you do your best not to post it anywhere else outside of Eka's Portal. I really want to keep their board safe from vandalism.
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Postby Nugget » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:34 am

Hey everyone.
I downloaded the game, but I can't change the language to Japanese in the Language and Regional settings in the control pannel, it seems there isn't japanese.

I downloaded Appleco, or whatever it is called, but it doesn't work either.

Is there a place where I can download... japanese for Windows?
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Postby fonny » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:29 am

Hi. This is a member of the main Japanese forum. Call me Fonny.
I can see that this site is going to grow this ryonasaga game in future, so I came down to find some ways to
let the Japanese forum and this site co-operate more and avoid conflicts as much as possible.

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LIKELY FUTURE

I think in future, your site will take the following stages.

1) (now) you found Ryonasaga out. You translate the main game and get some other members to enjoy playing
Some of you start playing WizEx, ROA and Ryonasaga RPG.
2) you start altering some characters and movements. You will upload altered files using various uploading sites.
3) you create some new characters and upload them onto various uploading sites

After this, this is what I'm hoping to happen.

4) although we will keep the Japanese thread and English thread completely separated forever, we will share the same uploader

like what we are using. Currently, we cannot share it because the limit of 250MB and likely limitation of the download

bandwidth.

5) Ryonasaga is an open source software. It is welcomed that some of you improve the main system of the game...as you can

see, the game system is not so complete. There are many ideas like letting characters speak and making story modes. Maybe

some of you can help us.
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Postby fonny » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:31 am

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RULES AND REGULATIONS (1st draft)

The main Japanese thread is working on vague rules and balances.
So please keep the following rules, or you and us may not be able to co-operate.

1) The upload page we are using, created by "Mr. 48" in the thread <ryonasaga (6th)>, has two limitations.
The uploader can hold only Max 250MB in total and the download bandwidth per month may be limited.
Please do not use the uploader with many people.

I suggest one of you download new files from the Mr.48's site and upload somewhere else, and let everyone download them.

2) Please do not post in the main Japanese thread anywhere.
The main thread respects calm, conflictless, Japanese atmosphere.
If you have questions, use this Eka's site and some people who understand Japanese or some Japanese people who understand
English will answer.

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I'm quite happy to help you guys establish this community of Ryonasaga on this site.
I think you guys will enjoy this game and will make great products so everyone can enjoy more.
I will post here some more detailed rules and regulations later, going more into copyright rules.

By the way, here is a little problem we are facing.
I think we can get even closer if you could just think about this a bit.

Our uploader is currently not very stable because of the maximum given space 250MB.
Please let us know if you know any good ones. The uploader must be
a) easy to identify each accumulated files
b) quick to download
c) huge given space

OK. Enjoy the game!
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Postby Deathworks » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:29 am

Hi!

Chaotic: Okay, I will have a look at what you may need for new enemies.

As for us being discovered, I believe it is a good thing as I always believe in openness. If we are enjoying their game, I believe they have a right to know about it. I was considering informing them myself, but then decided that things here have not yet shown a clear enough direction of what will be happening here.

Nugget: Have you installed the East Asian fonts? It is a special check box in the regional settings. That may be what is causing trouble for you.

Fonny: Thank you for coming here to talk to us directly. I posted my own thoughts (rather vague) over at the Japanese vs. International sub thread.

I hope that all of this will turn out for the best for all.

As for web space; I don't really know much about that. However, スライマラス has an uploader for monster girls, and since you have quite a lot of those in the game, maybe you can enlist his help concerning your hosting problems. The link is:

http://monster-girl.homelinux.net/

Sorry, but that is all I can think of.

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Postby Nugget » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:35 am

Deathworks wrote:
Nugget: Have you installed the East Asian fonts? It is a special check box in the regional settings. That may be what is causing trouble for you.

Deathworks


Yep, I did. But it seems it needs the Windows XP Instalation CD. And I don't have it.

I tried to download Japanese characters from Mircrosoft.com, but it says my Office is not genuine, and it won't let me download anything.

...

Dude you won't beleive this: Yesterday I DREAMED I played the game. Yes, I'm that desperate to play it. So, please please please please help me in any way you can, I would really appreciate it.
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Postby Chaotic » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:58 am

Nugget: Haha that's kinda creepy but I wouldn't blame you. It's a pretty awesome game. Anyways I found a link that will allow you to install Japanese to your computer. It contains a .rar file with the necessary files. Your going to need Daemon Tools to mount the .iso that's inside of the .rar and after you install it you can switch your regional settings.

Here's the link:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O88NKEGA

Fonny: It's great having you here and I hope we can create some awesome add-ons to the the game.

Deathworks: I gleefully await those translations! :D
Thanks again for going through the trouble of translating the files.
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Postby Nugget » Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:42 pm

Megaupload says it's so busy, I won't be able to download anything after 5 hours.

But it doesn't matter! Thanks a lot!

BTW, I allways have crazy dreams, don't worry.
I once dreamed I fell 10,000 feet. I also dreamed a dragoon was loose on my city. I have also jumped 10 meters and destroyed evil turkeys with just my own will.
But let's get back to the topic.
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Postby Sari » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:17 pm

i forsome reason, all my files are empty except for a few, there are no characters, no start data... or anything.. anyone know what is up?
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Postby fonny » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:18 pm

Hi. Nice to see you guys again.
Here is the final version of rules and regulations. It's rather long, but please read them before playing Ryonasaga.

The main Japanese thread is functioning on vague rules and balance, so please be careful on the following. I really don't mean to offend anyone and want to be very open about this game. But there are some sensitive matters I want everyone to be aware of. Please excuse the rather cold tone of rules and regulations, because I intentionally kept the them as concise as possible so people can understand them easily.
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Postby fonny » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:18 pm

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RULES AND REGULATION

1) Posting

a) Please do not post in the main Japanese thread anywhere.
The main thread respects calm, conflictless, Japanese atmosphere.

b) If you have questions, use this Eka's site and some people who understand Japanese or some Japanese people who understand English will answer.

2) Uploading and downloading files

a) The upload page we are using, created by "Mr. 48" in the thread <ryonasaga (6th)>, has two limitations.
The uploader can hold only Max 250MB in total and the download bandwidth per month may be limited.
Please do not use the uploader with many people.

b) It is suggested somebody in Eka's site download new files from the Mr.48's site and upload somewhere else in zip archive, and let everyone download it.


3) Copyright problem

a) In Ryonasaga, the basic rule of copyright is:

"Altering or using characters, movements, games or any other products produced in this thread
for Ryonasaga related games, any new games and games already existing ARE ALLOWED"

But some files are not allowed to be altered or used in other games, so please check the readme.txt attached to each files and see what are being prohibited to do.

b) Other creators may want to alter your products. To avoid copyright problems emerging, please make files with the same rule of copyright with us. (namely, "Altering or using products for other games is allowed. Write prohibited matters in the readme.txt")

c) To be polite and make creators happy, please post a message on "<Declaration of altering/using files>"(http://yy48.60.kg/test/read.cgi/ryonasaga/1194565554/) before altering or using products of Ryonasaga. A lot of creators are happy to know other people want to use their characters or movements, but some creators feel bad if their products are altered or used in other games without any notice.

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<Would you give us a favour?>

In the Japanese thread, the uploader only holds up to 250MB in total, and also not sure how long more the uploader owner is going to keep paying money for the server.
If you know any big space, unlimited download bandwidth or something similar, easy to use uploader, or know somebody who could make one for us, please let us know.

If there is a stable, good uploader, we are hoping that we can share it, so everyone from both sites can easily download files created by members of both sites.
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Postby Nugget » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:51 pm

Chaotic!
The .rar file is encrypted!
It asks me for a password!
I typed "Japanese" as the password, it seemed to work at the beggining, but then Winrar stops decompresing and says there's a mistake.

What can I do?
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Postby Chaotic » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:03 pm

Nugget: Oops.
The pass is: Talvert

Sari: The file attached to the rapidshare link is empty? Hmm try redownloading it because it might have been interrupted in the middle. If that doesn't work I'll PM you another upload link.

fonny: I wish I knew a good upload site to help you out. If someone knows be sure to post it :-D . I look forward to the cooperation between both sites :-D !
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Postby fonny » Fri Nov 09, 2007 4:58 am

by the way, as ryonasaga related files increase, you will need a place where you can see all files in one page.

Some of you may start creating new characters or movements. Then you will need something like this in future...so I created something for you.

http://drop.io/ryonasagainternational/

I suggest you guys putting all ryonasaga related files here. Here are some features

1. Every file stays there for 1 year
2. 100MB maximum for each files
3. Only the admin can delete files...but non-admins can add files, add notes and download files. Currently, I am doing the admin but I am happy to let somebody else do the admin in future.
4. I don't really know how much the max space is...but it should be quite big. If it reaches the maximum space given by any chance, we can always create a new account like "ryonasagainternational2"

As files increase, rapidshare will be tough to use...
I hope I am contributing this thread somehow. I really look forward to seeing some of you guys developing this game with us.
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Postby Nugget » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:05 pm

I played the game.

O

M

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This game is a gift from the heavens.
And it includes my favorite RPG girl, Yuna!

Thank you so much chaotic! You're my hero.
And also thanks for the Japanese files, I can write in Japanese now! And all thanks to vore! Wohoo! What a benefical fetish!
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were can i get rar to play this game

Postby starshower » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:17 pm

plz i love vore games like this plz help me
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Postby Chaotic » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:17 am

fonny: I can't thank you enough for going through the trouble of setting up that uploader. I'm sure once the files are all translated we'll be able to add new things to the game.

Nugget: Wasn't a problem. Enjoy the game! :D

starshower: Uhhh your going to have to be more descriptive then that.
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