Ultimate Blackjack [Moddable for custom text]

[Snorlaxkid]

How do people feel about 3D art?

I honestly prefer hand drawn, this doesn't have the same feel behind it, and could easily hit the uncanny valley with models like this.

[Birichino]

3D definitely needs a ton of work to look good, has much more NEED to look good, and probably wouldn't have the same strange charm as anime here.
It might work for some similar game, though I can't think of what...

[Nornim]

How do people feel about 3D art?

While I prefer hand drawn, I honestly don't mind 3D since I know how limiting it is to have everything drawn.

For the purposes of expanding what can be done, I'd honestly prefer 3D in this case so you can do more without being limited by funds to get more drawings.

I'd rather have a more fleshed out game then one limited by its visuals, sort of the idea of being able to do more would make up for it not looking as appealing; games shouldn't be limited by how they look, but I can understand how people wouldn't like 3D over that anime appeal.

[DjConnorJ]

3D interests me with this idea it seems to have a lot of potential to be good but is more time consuming to make i think its a great idea i would like to see it

[viperxvii]

Personally, I'd prefer 2D art. But that's entirely due to preference.

[gravifan89]

Ooh, definitely an interesting sounding game. Will post again after trial run.

[CybeastFalzar]

Am I the only one who feels like the game is cheating? After 5+ hands of 14/15/16 (statistically the worst 2 card setup you can be dealt) I really begin to question it. Also, the dealer gets WAY too many lucky breaks, whenever I'm about to win, suddenly, she has the most ridiculous 'luck'.

[CybeastFalzar]

Alright, at this point, I'm playing a game and counting the 'lucky breaks' the dealer gets. Lucky breaks are improbable draws and me being dealt 14/15/16. Well, more accurately, I'm counting the longest streak they get.

Dealer to 200, and the BS usually starts when they get low.

Hand 1: Dealer: 5,4,4,2,5, tie.
Hand 2: I get an 11, Double, get Face Card. Dealer gets Blackjack. Push. ....For the record, under casino rules, Dealer Blackjack is instalose.
Hand 3: I win, nothing too improbable happens.
Hand 4: 4 A 7 A 5 6, and I had a 21. The fucking odds....
Hand 5: me: 3, 3, 9. OH look, 15. Dealer 17
Hand 6: Me: Q Q. Dealer: Loses.
Hand 7: 11, Double, get Face. Dealer loses.
Hand 8: 4, 10. Ugh, a 14.... Dealer showing a Jack. Busted, they had 20.
Hand 9: 6, 6. I hit and get a fucking 2. They have another Jack. Hit, get ANOTHER 2. Bonus points for 16.
Hand 10: 13, hit, Face card.
Hand 11: 10, 5.
Hand 15: Another 15.
Hand 16: Another 16. Dealer has King. Dealer's gotten back above 200 and I haven't been able to force her lower than 100 yet due to this back and forth. Dealer has 21.

I've lost interest in chronicling, but the amount of shit luck is...a bit unbelievable.

EDIT: OK, I can't get her below 100. Every time I get near, suddenly I get nothing but a long streak of 16s and 17s and she always has 17s or 18s at the start, or the card she hits for would put me over.

[Journeyman]

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random_set_seed(current_second);
var suit, val, z, i, pos;
globalvar deck, discard;
deck=0; discard=0;
val="23456789TJQKA";
suit="SDHC"
pos=0;
for(z=1;z<=4;z+=1){
    for(i=1;i<=13;i+=1){
        card="";
        card+=string_char_at(val,i);
        card+=string_char_at(suit,z);
        deck[pos]=card;
        pos+=1;
    }
}

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var drawn, r, c, m, amt, pre, suite;
drawn="NA";
while(drawn=="NA"){   
    if(array_length(deck)<1){
        // Shuffle
        deck=array_copy(discard);
        discard=array_clear(discard);
        audio_play_sound(snd_shuffle,1,0);
    }       
    r=floor(random(array_length_1d(deck)));
    drawn=deck[r];
    deck[r]="NA";
}
audio_play_sound(snd_deal, 1, 0);
return drawn;


The method is a bit goofy (it was originally designed in a way which took into account some web browser restrictions which are no longer an issue), but it's produced an even distribution in testing. Actually, if the randomness *was* skewed, it still wouldn't produce anything that gave the dealer a specific edge. The keen-eyed will also notice that the deck used here is much easier to count than in Vegas; only 1 deck is used.

[Battalia]

Alright, got Raven to 200, betting only 50's:

Raven: 9,Q Me:K,Q
150
Raven: 5,10+J Me: 7,5+5
100
Raven: 7,9+6 Me: 3,3+A
50
Raven: 7,7+10 Me: A,7
0

Well that went MUCH better than it usually does Raven pleaded for a best two out of three, so why not? Clicked reset, lets head into round 2!

(got her to 300 before losing back to 900!!! Thought I was done for for sure!)
225
Raven: 10,4+7 (ouch) Me: Q,J
275
Raven: Q,Q Me: 6,6+J
325
Blackjack for me
275
Raven: 2,6+5+K Me: 9,5 (yes I stood on 14)
225
Raven: K+8 Me: 9,7
275
Raven: Q+8 Me:3,3+7+7
225
Blackjack for dealer
275
Raven: 6,9+j Me: K,K
225
Raven: Bust (couldn't write in time) Me: Q,8 (and shuffle sound)
175
Raven: 6,10+J Me: 8,J
125
Raven: 2,8+5+10 Me: 6,J
75
(dealer has blackjack, I got 21 with 3 cards, push *phew!*)
75
Raven: 5,3+10 Me: 10,K
25
Raven: 4,3+J Me: 8,4+9

Sorry Raven, its time.

Sorry, not noticing the amount of bad luck you have my friend.

[IndifferentEmpath]

In regards to 3D versus 2D, I will honestly say hand drawn is much better. However for a game like this I think I would happily take more 3D dealers with different dialogues over a single hand drawn dealer. It's certainly nice seeing the detail on Raven, but a game thrives on replayability and variety so I feel a small loss in quality is worth the jump in quantity. Different personalities and characters would be very nice to see and it seems like to get quantity 3D is the best route.

[Schpadoinkle]

In regards to 3D versus 2D, I will honestly say hand drawn is much better. However for a game like this I think I would happily take more 3D dealers with different dialogues over a single hand drawn dealer. It's certainly nice seeing the detail on Raven, but a game thrives on replayability and variety so I feel a small loss in quality is worth the jump in quantity. Different personalities and characters would be very nice to see and it seems like to get quantity 3D is the best route.

While I agree about the replayability thing, due some severe uncanny valley issues, I'm not sure how much replayability it would have. Especially with how many people have already voted for no 3D.

Granted I might be biased because I really, really do not like most 3D modeled porn. It's well... lifeless and terrifying. I would much rather stick with just Raven for long enough for Journeyman to get the money together to hire another 2D artist, personally.

[Journeyman]

I'd definitely have to do a legit poll or something, since the opinions are basically:
"Good with 3D": 4
"Not preferred": 6

Tiny sample that is currently a 1 vote swing.

But, no worries, none of that for now either way. I'm testing the new cheat mechanics, and we're a loooong way from funding another set of commissioned art (more than 1 artist has expressed commission rates similar to Raven's), and the other 2 artists I'd begun working with are taking a break.

So, short-term, I'm expanding the functionality in hopes of increased enjoyment~ Art options to be considered later!

[SwallowMe]

On the 2D vs 3D, it all depends. I like the 2D. With 3D though, it has to be of great quality, achieving great realistic look.

One thing that has bothered me about 3D is that people seem to pick the female models that don't look quite feminine or on the other end, they use really creepy looking cutesy japanese anime like underage looking faced models.

Journeyman, the example for 3D you gave on page 10, embodies some of my problems with 3D. The face is somewhat feminine, but not a great deal. She's got breasts, check. But then we reach the belly, that just throws me off and removes any interest in 3D if that is an example of a model that will be used. In the example given, she has a six pack. In my experience, realistically, not many women have six packs, except women that are workout health nuts and/or female body builders. Okay yeah, the model shown is rather lean and skinny, but I have seen many a belly of lean and skinny women, and the common thing is, they don't have six packs. They have smooth skin, where muscle can't be seen.

Sorry if I come of a bit blunt, but when I saw that example I was like, face okay, breasts good, belly....aahh run away, look away. I'm attracted to women of various sizes, shapes, weight, and whatnot, but the minute you throw something like a six pack or some other mannish quality, interest drops to zero. And for vore to work for me, the female pred must be attractive.

But, that's just my two cents.

[Journeyman]

SwallowMe, thanks for the opinion! Most of the women I know do have 6-packs, and are generally quite fit. Either way, if I ended up going 3D, I'd put time and effort into character design (the one I posted doesn't even have pants!) and a variety of types would be represented. But, like I mentioned, not anytime soon~

[NanasBananas]

Just to add to the vote, I would be completely okay with 3D. Sure I like 2d, but I like 3d as well. The 3d model you posted looks fine to me, I'd be happy to play casino games against her.

Given the choice, which would I actually prefer? Probably 2D, but not by that huge a margin.

Oh, also I don't believe I said this earlier, but the blackjack game is very enjoyable. Kudos!

[Journeyman]

NanasBananas, I'm glad you're enjoying!!!

[DB1224]

Personally, I prefer the 2D style. I find it more... cute.

[SwallowMe]

SwallowMe, thanks for the opinion! Most of the women I know do have 6-packs, and are generally quite fit. Either way, if I ended up going 3D, I'd put time and effort into character design (the one I posted doesn't even have pants!) and a variety of types would be represented. But, like I mentioned, not anytime soon~

I didn't think I mentioned anything about time, though I guess it could seem that way with way I worded my comment.

I'm sorry if I came off as someone trying to rush you.
Seriously, take all the time you need and even then some.

I'm not the kind of person that will come back every couple days and ask, "Is it done yet?" I find such a thing is like an annoying kid in a car during a drive to a vacation destination.

I'm very laid back; I come into such game threads, and if a game isn't complete/playable I just move on to something else. Stuff gets done when it gets done, and I'll enjoy it all the same, whether it gets done quickly or takes months.

Lastly, if I haven't said it before: I loved the Blackjack game you released. It was very well put together and entertaining.

[SomeGuy1294]

Fun game, but it seems a touch glitchy. Some times the dealer flat out does not pay on a winning hand. Maybe it was because I split? Also, doubling doesn't seem to increase what I win.

Not that I mind losing.

EDIT: Also, restarting does NOT reset money, for some reason.