So...how rare is Vore?

[Feign]

Alpha has a point... Though I think there's a lot in a name, and that endosomatophilia is really much more descriptive than vore. It also doesn't have as many preexisting connotations.

I think if described properly and not just asking "Hey, do you think people eating eachother is hot" there would be a much larger percentage that are inclined towards such a fetish.

i dunno, I just felt like typing some multiplesyllabic words...

[Adamant_Borb]

I'd have to say that unless an official institution, like a psychology research firm or a university or something similar, starts investigating vore and its root causes, we might never know. Someone needs to bring vore to the attention of the academic world and ask them for aid in our quest to find out what we are. (I call not it!!)

When vore becomes an "official" fetish, it can become a part of sexual surveys and the like, which would not only validate its existence but help most vores in the world discover that they are not so alone as they thought.

My tuppence.

[Lexifoxy]

I think if it's going to be official like that, vorarephilia might as well be split up into phagophilia and endosomatiphilia.

[Eka]

That fact that a vore web site is not financially viable tells me that the number of people into vore is rare indeed.

Not really, this site have far more traffic then most paysite. The only thing stopping this site to become a paysite is that, it will only happens over my dead body!

I think if it's going to be official like that, vorarephilia might as well be split up into phagophilia and endosomatiphilia.

Also party true. The problem with vore not being easily recognized is that it is it is very vast at the same time very specifies. Almost everyone like vore in their own specifies way. Lead the term to become difficult to understand since there are so many view point to it. In that case, vore will be hard to become anything 'official' and therefore, it will have no reach, since nobody know exactly what it is in a short and easy to understand term.

Reading this got me thinking, and so I figured I'd do a little bit of work to generate some low estimates.

From the Eka's Portal member list I see that there are currently 3990 members.

Assumption #1: All of these people count under "Vores" (likely) and all the vores in the world are on that list (very, very unlikely).

Assumption #2: The world population is a nice round 6 billion.

Result: Vores make up 0.0000665% of the world's population, or 6.65 vores per 10 million people. This is the absolute lowest limit.



A slightly better (but not by a whole lot) approximation is that we're all the English speaking vores that there are.

Assumption #1: All of the people on the list speak English (more or less true) and all the English speaking vores in the world are on that list (very unlikely).

Result: Vores make up 0.00107837% of the English speaking population (and, since being a voraphile doesn't seem to be linked to any language this should be the percentage for the world at large.) Expressed as "x per y people" it's 1.07 vores per 100,000 people. This is likely lower than the true ratio, because as we all know, many vores spend a long time thinking they're the only ones with this fetish before finding others like themselves.

My $0.02.

Good numbers here, but there are a few information missing.

1) Only about 1 out of 20 regular visitors of this site is a member

2) The "Reach", as in how reach able this website is, is only about 14.5% effective. As in, so far, only 14.5% of the entire population of the internet have even had any chance of heard of a site that mention about this site, or heard about this site directly.

3) Even if we count only English speaker. Only about 35% of them have regular and private access to the internet

4) And of those number, only about 65% of them are above the age of 18.

So, for another word, it would be at least 1,000 times higher according to your ratio for the number to be considered "worst case scenario".

[kitsun3chao]

One good answer: 100% from members map +/- about 50% of this value. I fell very good knowing vore is rare ^^ and if you can find voraephil can understand you better than "normal" ^^

[William]

Just to add to the general confusion, or maybe help, here's some other numbers.
While publishing the femcan 'zine Black Widow in the 80's, each of eight issues sold over 3,000 copies. Carnalvores, in the early 90's, sold about 2,000 copies of each of 10 issues. And this was to a rather restricted audience, mostly comics and SF fans in the southeastern USA, although they did get shipped to some bookstores and fans in other countries.
Now, given the population pool, which was about 20,000 fans in that zone, this gives a pretty high interest level. Even discounting the ones who merely bought it for the humorous shock value.
Not to mention the dozens of women who found it an incredibly cool turn on to pose for drawings as cannibal women. (Including two Playmates, some Scream Queens, and several of Olivia's models.)
That last is why I think folks should be careful, but a bit less shy about their 'tastes'. Get to know somebody, and don't be afraid to show what you're interested in, in subtle ways. It's easier for prey than preds, but still... You don't have to make scary confessions or have serious confrontational talks.
There's a lot more interest than is on the surface. Even a casual survey of mass media reveals that.
Tcha! Anybody want a piece of the Hannibal Lector franchise? Vore sells, it's just vore with overt sex that upsets folks. Keep the sex hidden, and it's more acceptable than homosexuality or S&M.

[weeatmonkeys]

The lack of pay sites will be due to the fact that you can't mass produce content just for the price of a camera and a few models.

thats not ENTIRLY true....i know mamabliss used to be a pay site, and some parts still are i think....pomoporno does a good bit of vore from what i seen...and....one other i cant put my finger on....anyway....there ARE paysites out there....just not many, and not exclusivly vore

Cannabalism is not vore.

Even if someone was turned on by the thought of cutting up another person, putting them in a stew and then consuming them, that person would not be included in the vore count.

never seen hard vore before?....

[diablodevil2]

Cannabalism is not vore.

Even if someone was turned on by the thought of cutting up another person, putting them in a stew and then consuming them, that person would not be included in the vore count.

never seen hard vore before?....

Don't care much (at all) for it, but I was thinking that also... in the written word, things do tend to sound different, but Nez's response did seem just a bit harsh.

[diablodevil2]

2) The "Reach", as in how reach able this website is, is only about 14.5% effective. As in, so far, only 14.5% of the entire population of the internet have even had any chance of heard of a site that mention about this site, or heard about this site directly.

I could be misunderstanding this, but that seems pretty impressive to me. That means 14.5% of people who use the internet have been to a site that leads through a link, or at least mentions the portal (or another site that links to/mentions it)?
...
I think I'm wrong, but if that is the case, then yea, I'd be impressed.

[sorgens]

Think of it this way: yes, it would be damn near impossible to figure out how many people are into vore.... but look how much vore is in popular culture. Everything from music videos, to TV commercials, to mainstream movies. Its every where, and very often portrayed in a light hearted, cute, or even subtly sexual manner. Look at the amount of vore in Disney cartoons. If you watch the way vore happens in Disney movies, its either scary, like violent, or its playful... with lots of teasing before hand. I've read that people with oral sex fixations tend to have a connection between genitals in the mouth, with a body in the mouth... so I think we are less rare than we think.

[Adamant_Borb]

The main issue with quantifying the vore community is that "vore" tends to be a generic term for several dozen specialized fetishes, including, but not limited to:

Soft vore
Hard vore
Anal vore
Cock vore
Unbirthing
Endosomatophilia

Judging by all of this, I (a totally unqualified non-academic) would say that "vore" would be defined as "the usually sexual fetish of one creature entering another creature's body, typically through ingestion." I'd also add "this fetish's fans occasionally cross over into other, more definite fetishes such as the furry fandom, stuffing, and pregnancy." Typically, one identifies their first vore experiences with cartoon characters, which leads to the furry crossover. The lure of the other two, generally, is the bloated bellies of pregnant women and stuffed people.

Vore can be generalized. There are some things that every vore fan, regardless of their niche, can agree upon:

1. They like the idea of one creature going inside another.
2. They typically gain sexual pleasure from viewing or fantasizing about such an act.
3. They generally know what sub-classes of vore they DO like, and those they DO NOT like.
4. They are usually very supportive of each other, despite their different preferences, because of their common identity as members of a more "obscure" or "deviant" fetish community.

Again, I call "not it" in trying to bring this to the academics' attention. But maybe someone should start a survey - an all-inclusive, intensive survey of every member of this website to determine just what their preferences are and how many others like them they have met or heard of. Any takers? I'm too busy, unfortunately.

[Junogray]

now, its a long reach but i did it because i was curious to know for a very long time, it took more than a year but i finaly got it down. Using my study's of psychology and what i could figure out. I decided to do a secret vorephile searvay that didn't directly ask the people if they were a vorephile or not. the results were quite shocking and i still question if i made some mistake but out of 100 people the results turned out to be about 28 people leaned more toward being a vorephile. thats alot more than i thought would happen. I'm planing on doing this again soon, i'll list the questions later when i do so to give you an idea of what i'm doing for this process.

[Lexifoxy]

now, its a long reach but i did it because i was curious to know for a very long time, it took more than a year but i finaly got it down. Using my study's of psychology and what i could figure out. I decided to do a secret vorephile searvay that didn't directly ask the people if they were a vorephile or not. the results were quite shocking and i still question if i made some mistake but out of 100 people the results turned out to be about 28 people leaned more toward being a vorephile. thats alot more than i thought would happen. I'm planing on doing this again soon, i'll list the questions later when i do so to give you an idea of what i'm doing for this process.

Mind posting the servey, and possibly noing which questions you were useing to see if they like vore and what they put?

[Vorachist22]

I have wondered.