Daichi777 wrote:This is more directed at KnightleyPaine than Ryan though I included the answers together since some of the points I'm replying to are similar to yours. You can't please everybody and it's not possible to. For those that love technical or short versions then there's other sites like Wiki or Eka's that'll be more suitable for you. Those kinds of people would already leave the page if it's too much for them. It's written social to help and is long for that reason because it's the only thing some people especially younger would have. Or a way for those not into vore to not have something technical to the point to fire back at you because it looks weird to them just knowing "it's eating other things". If you already know how deep or dark you are into the kink, you have to remember you're sharing space with everyone else reading. I know it's a bit long but not everyone has access to therapists especially at a young age and it might be the only relative or comforting thing they can find for years that's close to one. If you tell someone something and don't give enough logic or example or especially a way they can relate. It'll just go in one ear and out the other.
Fuck off with that explanation, you opened with the site being the introduction to vore itself, now the audience is young if it's technical (but not if it's long) and need comfort when it's rambly. Look, I get it, when it was written, it seemed like every bit was needed, that's why I said you need to take longer to make a shorter write-up. And no shit not everyone has access to therapists, maybe that's why it's a good idea to get one to handle this, maybe that would have been a better use of funds over getting a bunch of artists to fellate a giantess kink. Moreso than technical, I'm asking it to be professional and competent, which pertains more to an ability to get points across succinctly and writing in a way that can keep attention.
More importantly, your audience seems to be morphing with the justification, which brings me back to my point that it was made for a singular type of audience; the author.
Daichi777 wrote:The 'straight male prey' design is because I'm using the most common sub category of vore, and most common audience for the entire example. You can still use it to relate to your sub category, and if you want to explain to a partner or someone of what you're into vore such as furry, hard, full tour etc. You can do that personally. I'm not kink shaming, but it's a no brainer that those not into vore, especially partners can be especially put off if everything's lumped together without considering how many target audience types you're aiming at. Female preds, and some that love being extremely cruel who have given feedback have said that it's good for them too. Even if it wasn't aimed at this type of "straight male" audience, I'm not going to write something from a predators pov when I'm not one, nor do I have the experience or right to because of it.
Yeah, sure, and obviously if media is only white cis-het dudes that doesn't mean the other stuff doesn't exist. Ffs, maybe just not have giantess chibis vectoring in from left and write vying for the reader to be horny at the vore already when I'm struggling to wade through the vague attempt at structuring a vomit of thoughts and opinions. Oh look! You misunderstood both me and the other guy because neither of us wrote particularly competently, I wonder if that's a thing that comes up sometimes.
Again, you're trying to say this is the page for the vore introduction, and immediately upon being called out you're already dismissing anything different as capable of having their own space. Which again, reveals that you've not created the vore introduction, you've created
your space. So I'll be more clear here, I don't want
my space also being shoved into people's faces, I want the space you claim to introduce people to our space to do it's goddamn work. Let me put it this way, suppose one of your majority straight male prey dudes has to explain their thing to their statistically also straight, but now female SO. Do you think a page filled with giant (in a literal sense) tits is the best medium to open with? If I get a BDSM gf, do you think it is universally appreciated that the means by which she tries to explain that it's normal just has dudes in gimpsuits with chastity belts tweening into my field of view clamoring for attention in while I scroll? That sure is something a young person needs for fucking comfort.
Daichi777 wrote:The front page is just chucked in as the vore page was my priority. I need to finish the other pages before I decide what to do with it for layout and navigation. SEO is going to handle the pages as I'd rather people went to them first.
Okay cool just letting you know about it.
Daichi777 wrote:If it wasn't obvious you didn't like me for whatever reason (don't care and not my problem either) and you're saying crap like self absorbed etc.
Yes I hate you personally - You goddamn dumbfuck, I haven't had the misfortune of even remotely knowing about your meaningless existence until yesterday and I take solace in that I'll likely forget about you sooner rather than later. I hate the
work of the author of that site, judging them for their actions and their character, because they are bad actions of shit character. Whether you try to hold that hill as an apologetic or adjust your behavior decides what type of person you are from there. And your reply here drives the problem home:
Daichi777 wrote:I get it's not so nice for preds or evil lovers to read at times.
It's like you assume people tick like you, so their contention is that
their smut isn't the one being mashed into people's faces at all times. That there's some straw position out there thinking you should have filled the page with vicious looking murderpreds. How about none of that? How about zero content that looks like it was weird-ass fap material for the alleged non-vore person reading this? Or maybe I'm misreading you, who the fuck knows, because these post so far were just more informal back and forth, I guaran-fucking-tee you something about either of our points is going to be lost during reading, as if that was a normal thing that happens when you don't write well.
So I'll do you a solid, here's a step by step attempt at suggesting shit without my usual incendiary language:
1.) Fix the coding thing
2.) Remove all images. All of them. They belong in a F/M femdom giantess appreciation fan shrine, not here. You're trying to get something done with the article. I'm not going to dictate your aesthetic, so I'll instead make an example: Let's say I had to read up on what furries are. That works with 0 pictures, but maybe it's good to have like, one fairly muted and normal looking furry image to accompany the explanation. Like, sure, nobody will fault you if it's yet another wolf or fox playing the poster boy, but bonus points if the species isn't the overused majority, maybe the topic drifts into media and there's a screenshot of Disney's Robin Hood, or the history and there's art from the OG furries. A couple of friendly furries in fursuits going with an explanation of how the culture is lived, maybe even one Razmatazz the Sergal OC do not steal with 10 piercings, a halo, black wings and rainbow fur coloring, but still muted in theming - because they can be colorful and flamboyant and there's a vast culture and one example to make that known is reasonable. Maybe there's mild aesthetics to the page itself like there's a pawprint watermark in the background in a corner. See, the images are kept muted and purposeful. However, if that page starts vectoring in diaperfurs left and right constantly when I'm trying to read, and the author is like "Well obviously other things exist for furries and they're all welcome to make their own page" that is not really a good way to achieve the objective.
3.) Remove all the need for giantess to be explained with it, then make a separate giantess one. One thing at a time, but either article should make it clear that fetishes can be very wide-ranging.
4.) Consider the objective and the reader first. You're trying to get a point across, not kit it out in art like a personal passion-project. Is the reader not into vore? How do you maintain comfort for that? Is the reader young, and without access to professional help? Why not hire a sexual therapist instead to write it instead of more giantess chibi artists? - That doesn't mean it will turn into a formal, scholarly article, because striking the right tone and approaching a topic the right way are in fact part of that skillset. Or is it specifically for young, confused M Prey giantess fans to come to terms with their particular thing via relating to your lived experiences?
Then don't advertise it as representative for all of vore, because as a singular, valid experience it works as a limited window into someone with this lived experience, but if you have to throw around "you are free to make your own version" - obviously, on top of failing to be representative of the community, it means you're not really interested in being that - which, you know, fair, nobody expects that from you, just don't present as that in the first place if that's the extent of it.
5.) While you cannot make 'everyone' happy, you're claiming to do something for the community here, like building a bridge. If you build a bridge and decorate it with giantess chibis in your backyard, all the power to you. If I have to walk over it without plummeting to my death, you're going to hear it if the structure is unsound, and all the giantess chibis exceeding the first few are superfluous - it's like cats, there's a point where you exceed reasonable amount of cats (also if you're advertising for all pets but everything is cats maybe just advertise for cats specifically).
