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Re: RL Vore.

Postby 11millionseconds » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:09 pm

Eka wrote:I'm sure there are tons of opinions what qualifies for real life vore and what doesn't. But I don't really care what everyone else think. In this site, my definition is the law. All other definition are invalid.


I'm asking sincerely and without intending to be rude, but what was your incentive to ban RL vore from the website? I understand that you have the power to do it, but I was wondering if this is just a personal belief or something that reflects the views of the community. Are we allowed to poll on the community's opinion on the allowability of RL vore or were there any polls on this already? It might help to see where everyone else stands on the issue so that we won't all be frustrated with each other.

I'm asking this because all of your site rules are very well reasoned, but rule #1 seems to be a restrictive measure without any stated explanation that others can sympathize with.

Vincer wrote:So you basically don't care if an animal dies (a terrible death as well) for the sole purpose of getting your rocks off?


Let's not go here.. we're all guilty of that kind of stuff. We all eat chicken, and none of us really much care how they're killed (well, except the Jewish). None of us really have to eat chicken at all, we just do it because we like it. Maybe if our society allowed it, we'd be getting sexual pleasure from killing chickens, but it wouldn't make it any more wrong in terms of killing. In short, we kill chickens because we like it, whether it's because of the taste or some sexual value. If to some RL hamster vore is appealing let them have their opinions.
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Postby Deathworks » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:39 pm

Hi!

11millionseconds: It is quite simple. Real Life Vore is illegal. That is all there really is to it.

Basically, it falls into the category of cruelty against animals, and for example, that woman who had created such videos with mice and so on actually got convicted because of that, as far as I recall.

So, forbidding content which stems from and furthers illegal actions is an act of self-preservation of this site.

I hope this answers your question.

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Postby 11millionseconds » Sat Oct 04, 2008 1:03 pm

Deathworks wrote:11millionseconds: It is quite simple. Real Life Vore is illegal. That is all there really is to it.


That might be.. but I do not know if that's Eka's reasoning for not allowing such content, which is why I had to ask her. If it was that simple, then why do I not see "RL vore is not allowed because it is illegal" under rule #1? That's why I wonder which of the several possible reasons it is.

Also, I think this answers my question:

Eka wrote:You are wrong, I don't care whether it is illegal or not. It is simply disallowed because from the very beginning, this place is fantasy only. It always have been, and always will be.


I just didn't see that part of the post. I still suggest to Eka to post this under the rule #1 explanation though.
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Postby Terris » Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:32 am

Ugh. Look, the rules have been clearly stated. Eka stated them in her first post in this thread. The rules are posted elsewhere as well.

This public whining and pestering is disrespectful, especially since Eka and others have given us so much to allow us to have a place where we can share our fetish. If they choose to have rules that you don't like. Tough. It's their site.

I don't think that anyone has any right to demand that the maintainers of the site justify what they do or do not allow on the site to anyone. They provide this site free of charge to all of us out of the goodness of their hearts. We don't pay the bills, we don't pitch in, we get it FREE of charge. If someone doesn't like the fact that staged RL vore between living creatures is banned, they should go somewhere else to discuss it. It's THAT simple.

Respect the gift we've been given here in this wonderful community and stop trying to argue semantics with them on the rules they've set. If you want to question or give feedback on the issue further, do it to the mods directly. Send feedback, give your opinion, then be respectful and deal with it if you get shot down.

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Re: RL Vore.

Postby Superblah » Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:02 pm

Eka wrote:
Ka-Atis wrote:How about posting "the questionable RL vore" in the 'Rest of the World" forum?


No.

I don't want to go into the confusing "This goes here, and that goes over there, and something goes in between" situation. It is off this site, period. Very easy to follows.

in other words, it seems rather than being off topic, eka isnt allowing it because she doesnt like it.
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Re: RL Vore.

Postby bigchief11 » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:07 am

In spite of the many posts, this area remains grey, because the definition of RL is subjective.

It is the host's call on where the line is drawn, and that is well established. But RL versus fantasy remains unclear.

I write in a style that is fantasy, but draw from reality to support it. Maybe that's mystic to a degree. I also support those stories with art that uses a meld of photography and artistic enhancement, to create as realistic an image as possible. Can't be RL because a whole, live human cannot fit into the stomach of another human, and anything less in RL is offensive cannibalism.

I know I dance closer to the edge than someone who supports a story with drawings, or writes about improbable improbabilities, like bunny vore.

Before my application here (and I enjoy this group deeply!), I read stories in Archives, and determined that based on those stories, I would fit.

I do not wish to cause alarm or concern for anyone, or cross an unaccepable line, which is why I raise this issue of RL definition. Except for host definition that could be a definitive, but also exhaustive encyclopedia, the matter remains unclear.
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Re: RL Vore.

Postby SomewhatIntoVore » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:32 pm

How is there a "grey area"? Just follow the guidelines in the (almost) first post. Things that look real but aren't should be fine, and bunny vore only applies to this if you're a vegetable (the green kind). If your "treading on the line" involves someone not completely in your head being eaten, it's probably not OK.
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Re: RL Vore.

Postby bigchief11 » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:24 pm

This is somewhat grey because definition is not precise, but a range in probability. For the same reason, establishment of what is and is not porn is equally grey. There is no precise definition, but again a range, and that dependant on the one interpreting. For this reason, the rating system in film was established, and again is subjective.

"Things that look real but aren't" is clear and definite. However it is qualified by "should be fine," and that word "should" makes it once again subjective.

If we could settle this debate, we would deserve to be the SCOTUS, as we would achieve what never they could.

"Things that look rea but aren't." for now, is my guide, and a boundary within which I can easily remain wihout fear of crossing.

There is some darn fine excitement in being on the cutting edge of anything. In my world, it makes you more greatly appreciate life.
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Postby jaydee_007 » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:16 pm

Deathworks wrote:Hi!

11millionseconds: It is quite simple. Real Life Vore is illegal. That is all there really is to it.

Basically, it falls into the category of cruelty against animals, and for example, that woman who had created such videos with mice and so on actually got convicted because of that, as far as I recall.

So, forbidding content which stems from and furthers illegal actions is an act of self-preservation of this site.

I hope this answers your question.

Deathworks


Actually, Alice Brandt was Arrested for Animal Cruelty.

However she was acquited when her case was brought to trial.

She ceased her activity because the legal fees were excessive and the group PETA had very deep pockets and kept pressing the issue even after her acquital. She couldn't afford to keep up with them.

Regardless, if you want to do RL vore, go someplace else and respect the place you've been afforded by someone's good graces.

Quit carping about what you can't do, and just enjoy what you can do.
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Re:

Postby Inkie » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:07 am

I do not see what is unclear in this situation. The definition of "real vore" seems to me simply to be... well, real. For instance:

Real: A video of a woman putting a fish in her mouth and swallowing it. Real because it is something that actually happened.

Not real: a photo manipulation of a man consuming a shrunken woman. Not real because it did not actually happen.

It seems to make sense to me...
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Re:

Postby Hagglesmite » Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:58 pm

I don't understand what's so hard to understand about this. Eka made this site with the purpose of making it a FANTASY ONLY SITE.

No ifs ands or buts about it. No real life here. Period. This is one of the bigger vore sites out there, but it doesn't encompass EVERYTHING because it was never meant to.

FANTASY ONLY. It's not that hard of a concept, folks. If you want to have some real-life vore stuff, then make a website yourself about it.

Other than the main reason that it's Eka's site and her words ARE law here, as she's stated (and that I agree with), the other obvious reason is that real life vore could potentially threaten this site.

If everything remains in fantasy, it doesn't really matter what sort of stuff is depicted here (in theory) because no one is getting hurt and no one on this site is going out of their way to try to "brainwash" other people into liking vore, as so many ultra-conservatives seem to think we're doing behind their backs.

Political jokes aside, if real vore was brought into this, it's potentially animal abuse (or murder/cannibalism) which would, eventually, attract authorities' attentions and then there'd be a huge mess where they'd try to shut down the portal.

...Which, I'm guessing you all know, would be bad ^^;

Seriously though. If you're not sure about a specific link, ASK. This is a fantasy site, so while there is some limited real life content (for example a girl posted a video on here not too long ago teasing micro/macro prey fans with some jell-o in her mouth) it's still predominantly a fantasy site. Always has been, and always will be.

If you don't like it, make your own bloody site and stop harassing Eka and the mods ^^;
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