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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby Jacquelope » Mon Mar 23, 2009 6:49 pm

Okay I've got an idea for an amendment. How about 1500 words minimum and no more than 5000 words?

I just NOW realized how astoundingly short a 1500 word story would be: My short story was 16000 words.
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby MrHoppy » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:04 am

This is an excellent idea. With work being so busy I may not have a chance to submit something new this month, but I look forward to reading and critiquing others' entries!

As regards the wordcount issue, like many here I would rather not limit myself artificially to chapters/whatever of any size. However, when looking for feedback I'll generally have an idea in which section I would appreciate it most. So it seems quite natural to make a submission of that section, with a brief paragraph explaining the plot points and introducing the characters important to it, and to have the full text of the story as an appendix. That way it's there if the critic wants it, but can be ignored to prevent huge reading assignments.

Also: 4ofSwords, the new name is good. How did you change it? I trust my reason for asking is clear :P
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby 4ofSwords » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:06 am

It seems that most of the feedback is focused on wordcount and the issue of submitting chapters or installments in a story, so I'll make a few changes based on that.

The word count limit will be removed (though it will be recommended that submissions of more than 5000 words (or about 10 pages A4/Letter-sized) be broken into installments over several months). Also, any submissions over 2000 (or should I leave it as 1500?) words do not have to be read in their entirety as part of the assignment. The reader can read the first four pages or so, or as much more as they choose, to comment on. Allowing the author to choose which passage he wants the readers to focus on may get too complicated, but of course they can put any requests/questions they want into the space provided for reader questions.

Writers are free to post portions/chapters/installments of stories, certainly, but for the sake of the reader, the author is suggested to post links to any other parts of the story already written/posted, and/or to provide a brief introduction to the characters, plot points, etc. as suggested by the currently-called-MrHoppy.

How does that sound? Let me know, and I'll update the submission form and the guidelines page.
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby 4ofSwords » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:16 pm

I meant to add earlier - in the interest of getting as much participation as possible the first month, if any of you would like reminders - basically, a PM or email (your choice) around April 1 and again before the round closes - just let me know!
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby JQVore » Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:35 pm

Cool, I've got a Zelda fic request in the works that I'm waiting on the final details for. It'll be my first months submission if that's cool.
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby prisoner » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:53 pm

*just finished reading through proposal and roundup*

Jacquelope wrote:Where's the balance, is my question.


My backwards answer is that there is no balance. If you are sincere and dedicated in your writing then you'll eventually produce. If not, writing probably isn't high enough on your list of priorities.

I know that writing is not high up on my list, but I can vouche for the importance of my other responsibilities.

4ofSwords wrote:My thought is that there is not ongoing membership requirement. You only need to critique in the months that you choose to post. I.e. - Take as long as you want to write, if you don't like deadlines. After you write (and post), you have 3 weeks to critique 3 other writings or you get the hand-slap of doom.


XD The hand of judgement is swift and firm. I would say that this would work. A black-list in the OP could let potential submitters know who did not follow the rules and therefore doesn't require feedback.

Also, a thought occurs. Rather than asking writers to specify their interests, it would be far more practical for them to specify only what they will not tolerate. My own list of turn-ons is rather small, but so is the list of things that I simply cannot read. Everything else falls in the tolerable zone. Listing "preferences" in this way would make paring easier IMHO.
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby 4ofSwords » Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:16 am

pyroboarder69 wrote:Cool, I've got a Zelda fic request in the works that I'm waiting on the final details for. It'll be my first months submission if that's cool.

Sounds great!

prisoner wrote:Also, a thought occurs. Rather than asking writers to specify their interests, it would be far more practical for them to specify only what they will not tolerate. My own list of turn-ons is rather small, but so is the list of things that I simply cannot read. Everything else falls in the tolerable zone. Listing "preferences" in this way would make paring easier IMHO.

I thought about that - it would certainly make matching up assignments to readers a little easier! At least to start off, though, I figured it might be worth a little extra maintenance on my part to try to make this a more enjoyable experience for everyone. I'm hoping to try to give everyone at least 1 story that they like each month. I am only taking it as a preference, though. If we have 3 people who list hard vore as a preference and 5 hard vore stores, two people's preferences won't be matched that round - at least not for all 3 of their assignments.
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby Deathworks » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:06 am

Hi!

While this sounds like an interesting concept, I am not sure whether I can participate (I have a lot of things I am doing - but then again, the limited length may actually make something possible).

However, I would like to support the notion of adding the possibility for critiques to point out things that are completely intolerable for them. Mind you, I really mean intolerable not only differing from their preferences. For instance, while I do not like fatal vore, I can tolerate it, so I shouldn't list that. However, while the trauma has by and large ebbed down, foot fetishism is something that simply makes me really feel sick (for your information, when I first found the fetish community, I ran into some very descriptive macrophile foot fetish stories of people who like dirty feet and describing every little detail of the taste etc.... Even though this was years ago, the idea still makes me shudder). A real foot fetish story would consequently have a 100% chance of me sending it back to you. And if the author didn't mention that it was a foot fetish story, I would probably feel like putting some candles up my hair, get a straw puppet, a mallet and a few 5- inch- nails and look for the next ancient tree (just kidding :) :) :) ).

Frankly, I feel that the reading assignment will be a major hassle, especially for those with very rare preferences. Mind you, I think it is a good thing and ought to be followed through with, but it will probably perceived to be more work than writing the actual story :) :) In that spirit, I want to support keeping a low limit like 1,500 or 2,000 to be what the critic is responsible for reading. If the story is good enough to hook the critic during those first 1,500 words, they will finish reading it voluntarily, but if they find it dreadful, their frustrating task has at least a visible end. And considering that we are unlikely to see someone write up something as huge as the Lord of the Rings, 1,500 words should be enough to introduce the characters and the setting sufficiently for the reader to get a feel what they are being offered.

Finally, there is an issue concerning the content: Underage + UB? As people may know, I do exclusively underage vore/endo/UB, and while underage vore should be no inherent problem (vore itself does not require explicit sexual conduct), the combination of underage and UB could be considered problematic. In order to avoid confusion, I suggest to make a ruling there and have it known to everyone before we see the first underage UB story posted and the flame war starting (and no, I am not necessarily planning to write that one myself :) :) :) ).

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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby 4ofSwords » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:50 am

Deathworks wrote:Hi!

Hello, Deathworks! :)

Deathworks wrote:While this sounds like an interesting concept, I am not sure whether I can participate

I hope your schedule will ease up enough to allow you to participate - if not now, than maybe a month or two down the road!

Deathworks wrote:However, I would like to support the notion of adding the possibility for critiques to point out things that are completely intolerable for them.

My hope (which granted, is just a hope), is that a combination of authors labeling their stories well (Solomon did an excellent job) and having enough options to match preferences will avoid any need for listing intolerances. I'm concerned that prompting participants to list intolerances might foster unnecessary negative feelings; for example, I can completely empathize and sympathize with your expressed foot-fetish-antiphilia as you described, but if it simply appeared in a list ("things I refuse to read: torturous violence, kiddie porn, foot fetish") we might not be surprised to see a little unnecessary animosity generated by people who do who have a foot fetish and feel like they're being lumped in with something else that might be criminal. Does that make sense? In the case where I fail in a reading assignment and deliver something that comes back as unreadable to the assignee, I'll swap with that person for one of my own reading assignments. The very few things I absolutely refuse to read are illegal in the US, and my understanding is that they're not allowed on this site anyway (though I could be wrong.)

Does that make sense, and do you think that will work?

Deathworks wrote:Frankly, I feel that the reading assignment will be a major hassle, especially for those with very rare preferences.

I can see that you may be right, but I can't see how this will work without a reading assignment. I've joined too many post and critique boards that fall apart in weeks because of the imbalance between writers and critiquers. However, I completely support keeping the responsibility for reading minimal, and limiting the amount of responsibility a reader has for a longer work. Hopefully the system as stated now (which sounds like it works for you) will work for everyone, but if not, we'll poll the participators and re-structure!

With any luck at all, people with rare preferences may find stories that touch on those preferences that they wouldn't have started reading otherwise, or they may even find their definition of their preferences expanding. I know it's happened to me since I joined the portal and started seeing what other people were drawing and writing. :)

Deathworks wrote:Finally, there is an issue concerning the content: Underage + UB?

I'm sure you know better than me; what's the policy here regarding underage + *endo in its various forms*? I think that if sex or sexual gratification is involved, it's not permitted, but otherwise it just needs to be tagged? I think the ruling here is that as guests of Eka, we follow the general policies of the board regarding what is permitted and what is not. A flame war would be one of the quickest ways to undo this little project (besides disinterest) and as such it's a big concern of mine. Do you have any suggestions on a guideline that would prevent one?
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby Deathworks » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:57 pm

Hi!

4ofSwords wrote:Does that make sense, and do you think that will work?


Well, if we were to rely on the maturity of participants, I don't think people would really be at each other's throats about such exclusions. After all, it is just a statement about what the individual person can not bear to read for whatever reason. And by having such information, managing returned assignments could be diminished.

However, given how unreasonable people often are, you may be right to be careful about feeling.

4ofSwords wrote:I can see that you may be right, but I can't see how this will work without a reading assignment. I've joined too many post and critique boards that fall apart in weeks because of the imbalance between writers and critiquers. However, I completely support keeping the responsibility for reading minimal, and limiting the amount of responsibility a reader has for a longer work. Hopefully the system as stated now (which sounds like it works for you) will work for everyone, but if not, we'll poll the participators and re-structure!


I mainly pointed out the hassle aspect because there were voices that wanted to have a minimum size replacing the maximum size and in other ways suggesting changing the system. I totally agree that you need the assignments.

4ofSwords wrote:With any luck at all, people with rare preferences may find stories that touch on those preferences that they wouldn't have started reading otherwise, or they may even find their definition of their preferences expanding. I know it's happened to me since I joined the portal and started seeing what other people were drawing and writing. :)


Well, I am kind of used to "hunt" outside my territory given that I regularly check on monster girl sites in hope of finding some vore/UB content, so I don't expect any great revelations concerning my fetish. But I think that the fetish preference is actually not a really major issue (except for the intolerance thing) as there are so many ways in which you can evaluate a piece of writing: Density of atmosphere, originality of the plot, clever use of cliches, ... The degree of sexual gratification the reader gets seems to be just one aspect of it, and I don't think that many people participating in something like this only want to know how much people get sexually aroused by it.

4ofSwords wrote:I'm sure you know better than me; what's the policy here regarding underage + *endo in its various forms*? I think that if sex or sexual gratification is involved, it's not permitted, but otherwise it just needs to be tagged? I think the ruling here is that as guests of Eka, we follow the general policies of the board regarding what is permitted and what is not. A flame war would be one of the quickest ways to undo this little project (besides disinterest) and as such it's a big concern of mine. Do you have any suggestions on a guideline that would prevent one?


Well, you are not quite correct. Underage involving sexual conduct/nudity etc. is allowed, but only inside the Underage section which exists solely as a place for keeping such content. As far as I know, there is no official requirement for tagging material here at the Portal, but courtesy would definitely require it.

As for a suggestion for the guidelines, I suppose the easiest solution for you would be to say that no content which would go into the Underage Section (i.e. Underage + Sexual conduct) is allowed to be submitted AND you should make it an absolute requirement to have underage stories (containing no sexual conduct, of course) to be marked clearly as underage.

The first part of the suggestion is simply to easily make this project compliant with the rules of the Portal. Theoretically, you could have made an altermative solution of permitting such stories to be posted in the Underage section and then linked to instead of being uploaded in the thread (the detail information from the header should also probably be in the underage section). This would also make things compliant with the rules of the Portal. However, it would probably cause a lot of headache as you may need to figure out a way to handle the critics for those stories. After all, an in-depth criticism often refers to the content of the story, so the criticism itself may become problematic. This is why I suggest going the easy way.

The second part of the suggestion is not necessary to be compliant with the rules of the Portal, but I think it will prevent you from seeing some really, really nasty flame wars. Underage, even without explicit sexual conduct, is a very touchy subject for some here. Especially those who are strongly aware of the sexual nature of the fetish itself sometimes feel more than uncomfortable about it. If I were to make a bet, it will be among the main reasons for you getting assignments returned (provided this project really booms, of course). Now, with proper tagging, people can look at the tag and send you a PM immediately, no great harm done. Without such tagging, depending on the flow of the narration, people may be surprised by the underage content and feel betrayed/deceived and respond according in public. This is why I believe that making underage tagging mandatory is something you should add to your rules.

Finally, I noticed something that has me a bit worried/confused: Submissions for the first deadline for the beginning of April have started gathering (which is of course a good thing). But people have already started writing reviews about them, which I have rather mixed feelings about. After all, your system is designed to try to be fair and to keep things rotating for maximum exchange between different persons. But if people start writing reviews before you have handed out assignments, how will you handle that? Reduce their number of assignments? Assign them things from the remaining stories? Also note that you have each author getting three assignments, so if you don't reduce the number, someone may end up with not having enough remaining stories left to get their full alotment of assignments. And on the other hand, how do you count the reviews from the side of the stories. Your system effectively says that each story will get three critics assigned to it. Will you make this so that a story gets enough assignments to lift it to the minimum three (i.e. reduce the number of required reviews if there are already voluntary reviews) or will you say that each piece gets three assigned reviews, regardless of the number of voluntary reviews? Again, this could lead to distribution problems and maybe even charges of unfair conduct on your part...

Because of these concerns, I strongly recommend that you discourage or even disallow reviews before the assignments have been handed out.

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EDIT: IMPORTANT!

Please update the guidelines text you link to in the proper thread to reflect your changed policy on the word count. It still says that 1,500 is the absolute maximum while you have said that you use a more flexible rule. Having such contradictions makes people (or at least me) nervous about what other rule changes have not been added to the guidelines.
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby 4ofSwords » Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:29 pm

Hello again!

Deathworks wrote:And by having such information, managing returned assignments could be diminished.

If this project actually takes off and I get more than a handful of returns, I will definitely implement it!

Deathworks wrote:But I think that the fetish preference is actually not a really major issue (except for the intolerance thing) as there are so many ways in which you can evaluate a piece of writing: Density of atmosphere, originality of the plot, clever use of cliches ... I don't think that many people participating in something like this only want to know how much people get sexually aroused by it.

I agree! Hopefully, despite preferences, we can all help each other be better writers.

Deathworks wrote:As for a suggestion for the guidelines, I suppose the easiest solution for you would be to say that no content which would go into the Underage Section (i.e. Underage + Sexual conduct) is allowed to be submitted AND you should make it an absolute requirement to have underage stories (containing no sexual conduct, of course) to be marked clearly as underage.

That's a good suggestion! I'll go ahead and implement that in the guidelines and rules, and note that if there is a demand for the underage stories we can establish a separate group for it there.

Deathworks wrote:Finally, I noticed something that has me a bit worried/confused: Submissions for the first deadline for the beginning of April have started gathering (which is of course a good thing). But people have already started writing reviews about them, which I have rather mixed feelings about. ...
Because of these concerns, I strongly recommend that you discourage or even disallow reviews before the assignments have been handed out.

I actually started a post to address this very topic, but decided to remain mum on it to see what happens. If, we only have a couple of submissions it won't really matter and I'll have made a big deal of it for nothing. My feeling is that any reviews completed before the deadline are voluntary, and may or may not be counted toward the assignment. I really want to encourage people to read and comment on as many stories as they want/can, and enforcing no reviews before the deadline will only limit that, not encourage it. My plan is to try to make assignments as if no story has been reviewed, and if someone has already reviewed a story they're assigned, then good for them!

I hope this doesn't ever come across as being unfair, but if anyone feels that way I'll do what I can to address those concerns then. If we have a lot of submissions to choose from and a good match of submissions to preferences, it might work out that people will pre-review the stories they'd have been assigned anyway!

If anyone has pre-reviewed a story at this point under the assumption it will count toward the assignment (which really only counts for Solomon, and possibly Jacquelope), let me know and we'll work something out so everyone's happy. Anyone else, please feel free to pre-review, but know that it may not count against the final assignment (if that matters to you.)

Unless this thing really takes off and we're flooded with submissions (work and life permitting), I'm going to make an effort to read all of the stories and at least post some kind of review as they come in.

Deathworks wrote:EDIT: IMPORTANT!

Please update the guidelines text you link to in the proper thread to reflect your changed policy on the word count. It still says that 1,500 is the absolute maximum while you have said that you use a more flexible rule. Having such contradictions makes people (or at least me) nervous about what other rule changes have not been added to the guidelines.

Thank you for pointing this out! I thought I had already edited this doc with the updated version, and when I re-uploaded again just now it still didn't take the update. I'll delete this post and put the new one in shortly.

Don't be too nervous, though. Since this is just a good-natured attempt to get people to write and read, any mistakes and misunderstandings will be smoothed over to everyone's satisfaction. :)

UPDATE: Haha - I figured out I was being a dork and trying to upload as an .odt instead of a .doc. The file should now be updated. Let me know if it looks otherwise!
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby JQVore » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:20 pm

I have a question, how do we know what our "assignments" are?
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby 4ofSwords » Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:56 pm

pyroboarder69 wrote:I have a question, how do we know what our "assignments" are?


<grin> Once the deadline for posting passes, I'll send out PM's to everyone who participated that month. Feel free to read and comment as much as you want before and after the posting deadline (April 7), but there's no guarantee that the stories you read and comment on will be the ones in the assignment (unless you read and comment on everything!)
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby JQVore » Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:03 pm

ah, thanks for clearing that up
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby Deathworks » Thu Mar 26, 2009 5:03 am

Hi!

The update for the guidelines seems to have worked, the new limits and the underage rule are now included. However, your list markings (the dots) seem to have gone a little wild and have appeared also in your sub titles. But that is not a problem for understanding or reading the guidelines, so I strongly suggest NOT changing it until you have a real content change for the guidelines (I figure it to be a case of "If it's not broken, don't fix it!" :) :) :) ).

Concerning the early reviews, that is indeed a very good solution. I applaud you if you are able to pull this off. Having experience as a dungeon master for pen and paper RPGs, I know how difficult it is at times not to get influenced by your knowledge, so I have respect for you if you can really make the distribution without getting influenced.

Currently, I am trying to find an idea that a) generates a story short enough (my personal absolute limit is 3,000 so that people will get to see 2/3 of the story before they have to decide whether it is worth their while to finish reading it) and b) have not been done by me before. It is tough, but actually, that is one of the reasons why I am interested in your project: I got lots of ideas, but they are all so long that they never get finished in the end. Your project hopefully helps me create something shorter which actually gets finished.

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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby 4ofSwords » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:56 am

Deathworks wrote:...However, your list markings (the dots) seem to have gone a little wild and have appeared also in your sub titles. But that is not a problem for understanding or reading the guidelines, so I strongly suggest NOT changing it until you have a real content change for the guidelines (I figure it to be a case of "If it's not broken, don't fix it!" :) :) :) ).


I saw that, too, and came to the same conclusion - or at least to wait through the first month and make sure the guidelines as they stand now actually work out okay. :) But I guess it's a good sign I should move out of OpenOffice and into something like GoogleDocs, or <gasp> actually reinstall my old MS Office license. <grin>

Deathworks wrote:I know how difficult it is at times not to get influenced by your knowledge, so I have respect for you if you can really make the distribution without getting influenced.

Excel (Err... GoogleDocs again) to the rescue! There will have to be a little bit of a hand involved to shuffle around preferences, but I plan to let the computer make the hard decisions. :)

Deathworks wrote:Your project hopefully helps me create something shorter which actually gets finished.

Hooray! If you write and post more (and make the site content-wealthier) then the project is a success!
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Concerning early reviews

Postby 4ofSwords » Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:23 am

Hi, all!

I had another comment the other night about early reviews. This person had said that they were a little offputting and they'd stopped working on the story they intended to post because of it.

I have definitely been the offender here; I let my enthusiasm run away with me. I'll probably go back to my original plan - reading and reviewing each story, but waiting to post the reviews until the deadline for submissions pass.

What do y'all think? I really hate to limit any kind of participation, including reviews, and I know that personally I love feedback and love getting it right away, but I would also really hate to be turning away prospective writers, either because the posted critique is too harsh, too long, or they feel like their submissions won't be good enough. I'm not at all worried about the aspect of managing early reviews vs. assignments, but if the rest of you agree that this is a serious concern, I'll stop my reviews now and post something requesting the same in the thread.

If we do go that route, what do you think of the following added suggestion: If anyone wants to post a review before the submission deadline, go ahead and PM it directly the author, and then you can copy and paste it into the thread after the deadline passes. I may do that with Pyroboarder's latest submission.
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby Deathworks » Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:09 am

Hi!

Since I have been one of those bringing it up, I feel I should clarify about this:

My concerns about the early reviews were solely relating to the fair handling of early reviews and assignments. In my opinion, your suggested approach would successfully solve this problem. So, I am not against your early reviews. They would definitely not be a deterrent for me as the writing submitteed would get reviewed by assignment and (hopefully) voluntarily anyway, so, for me as the author, it does not really matter whether the review is written solely in the official time window or whether it is written earlier.

However, if this does bother people, I agree you might wish to reconsider your approach. Just as I don't see a problem from the point of view of the author concerning early reviews, I also do not see a problem with asking people to not post their reviews until after the deadline has passed. If they are really worried they could forget something, they should simply type their review in notepad, save it on their hard disk and then copy-paste it once reviews are welcome. If you really feel so emotional about a piece of writing that you wish to comment on it this very moment, chances are very high that in the heat of passion you will say something you regret later on. So, this approach also gives reviewers the chance to take a deep, deep breath and then look at their review again before posting it.

Anyhow, my participation for the April deadline still seems unlikely. If I do get a great inspiration, I might join in. But currently, I already have a number of projects I am keeping an eye on, so without inspiration.

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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby Tobedumped » Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:42 pm

I like the challenge of creating a well-written vore short story. I rarely write in short story format, so that's a challenge in and of itself, trying to do characterization and plot in a relatively limited amount of space. Most of the "quality" writing that I do is in another medium.
All of the vore writing I've done in the past, however, has been writing.com interactives, which I often feel kill brain cells. I'm curious to see if I can create a thoughtful, worthwhile vore contribution as opposed to the interactive writing, which is mostly "scenario-vore scene-aftermath" with nothing holding it together.
So I'm going to be working on contributions... we'll see if any of them get done for the April deadline. I'm the kind of person who rotates between several projects depending on mood that day. Hopefully one of the three I've started will be done soon.
(All are human, same-size, F/M with digestion and scat... no chance there's anyone in the group who fits that preference?)
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Re: An Eka's Portal Writer's Group?

Postby 4ofSwords » Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:17 am

Deathworks wrote:However, if this does bother people, I agree you might wish to reconsider your approach. Just as I don't see a problem from the point of view of the author concerning early reviews, I also do not see a problem with asking people to not post their reviews until after the deadline has passed. If they are really worried they could forget something, they should simply type their review in notepad, save it on their hard disk and then copy-paste it once reviews are welcome. If you really feel so emotional about a piece of writing that you wish to comment on it this very moment, chances are very high that in the heat of passion you will say something you regret later on. So, this approach also gives reviewers the chance to take a deep, deep breath and then look at their review again before posting it.

Well, I think I shall take this advice for myself, but leave others to do as they will unless it becomes a more general problem. Thank you for your advice!

Deathworks wrote:Anyhow, my participation for the April deadline still seems unlikely. If I do get a great inspiration, I might join in. But currently, I already have a number of projects I am keeping an eye on, so without inspiration.

If not in April, I hope in May!

Tobedumped wrote:So I'm going to be working on contributions... we'll see if any of them get done for the April deadline.

Excellent! I look forward to it!

Tobedumped wrote:(All are human, same-size, F/M with digestion and scat... no chance there's anyone in the group who fits that preference?)

Well, you have me on half of those preferences, anyway, but I imagine there are plenty of people on the site with the same interests!
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