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日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Deathworks » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:59 pm

こんにちは。もしかしたら、まだ挨拶されなかったら、Eka's Portalへようこそ!

Eka's Portalは丸呑みや子宮回帰に興味を持つ作者や描き師の為のサイトで、丸呑みや子宮回帰に興味を持つ皆さんを迎える場所です。親切な場所ですから、是非気楽でここに遊んで来て下さい。本当に興味深くて複雑な話し合いがあったり、馬鹿馬鹿しい会話があったりして、色々な行動がある場所です。もしかしたらイラストや諸説を作る作者なら、その作品を皆さんを見せる機能がいっぱいあって、そして返事や意見を聞く方法もちゃんとあります。もちろん、意見があれば、是非書き込んで下さい。

作者の為のサイトでありながら、コミュニティーの為のサイトですから、作品の話以外にも色々な話をしてもよろしいです。例えば、丸呑みに対しての気持ちや丸呑みの想像が罪になるかしらという話し合いがあります。

見ると分かると思いますけど、このサイトは基本的に英語のサイトです。でも、心配しないで下さい。日本の方や日本語が分かる人達も通ってくれます。そして、幸運で、管理人のEkaさんも日本語が分かります。というわけで、質問や問題があれば、日本語でも大丈夫です。

そして、英語しか分からない人が多分多いですけど、日本語で書き込むこともよろしいです。というわけで、英語に自信がなければ、是非日本語で書き込んで下さい。もちろん、いい練習になりますから、英語で書き込んでもよろしいです(笑。ただ、一つのお勧めがあります:もし機械翻訳を使えば、ぜひ元の日本語のテキストも書き込みに入って下さい。残念ながら、機械翻訳で細かいミスが多いんですから、そうしないと勘違いされる恐れがあります。

最後に、このスレは日本語を使う方の為の特別のスレにしたいと思います。例えば、ただ他の日本の方を探すとこのスレを使えばいいと思います。そして、サイトの日本語に対しての行動についてのコメントなどがあれば、ここにも書き込んでよろしいです。そして、他の丸呑みの話を日本語でしたければ、それもよろしいです。

EDIT:Eka's Portalの日本語のフォーラムが出来たから、あのフォーラムも使って下さい。そして、このスレをこれから日本語を使う人達と英語を使う人達を馴染める為に使いたいと思います。

それでは、ぜひ気楽で書き込んで下さい。
そして、楽しんで下さい。

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EDIT: Since there seems to be some misunderstandings, allow me to clarify. This thread is meant to welcome and encourage Japanese and people who speak Japanese to participate on the site.We now have an official Japanese subforum. Thus, I would like to shift the focus of this thread towards improving the ties between Japanese speakers and English speakers. I hope this edit clarifies these intentions.
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby MidnightRose » Fri Feb 12, 2010 3:22 pm

Mmhmm, mmhmm. Go on.
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby can » Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:23 pm

And for those who didn't think of using google translate, this is the weird ass translate you get from the first part.


Eka's Portal is a site by and for the teacher to draw interest to a return of swallowed or uterus, is where you reach the uterus and swallowed interested in regression. From friendly place, please come here and feel at home whether playing. And there is really interesting and complex discussion, and some silly conversation there, where there are many actions. If by some chance to make illustrations and theories, showing lots and features the work you have to respect the opinions and listen to and answer. Of course, if you have any comments, please come in writing.


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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Ranger » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:17 pm

Good idea, good idea. It does seem this site focuses rather strongly on the English language, which makes it a bit difficult for Non-English speakers to participate. Although, I'll just say from my own personal experiences, many Japanese folks out there prefer to kinda stick together, thus why we see many Japanese sites out there either devoted to a handfull of Vore Artists, or galleries that allow artists to post such works.
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Canace » Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:43 pm

And the Japanese do have a lot of amazing artists. =x
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Deathworks » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:25 pm

Hi!

MidnightRose: I take this as moral support. Thank you.

Can: That translation is actually pretty good for Google translate. We had another case where someone was very polite/formal, and Google was convinced they were preaching about Allah! Anyhow, in my text I encouraged people to post both the original and the translation if they are using machine translation, so that any misunderstandings can be fixed by those who have confidence in both languages.

Ranger: There are many Japanese who are afraid of foreigners. However, there is also a strong faction interested in getting deeper contact. But the language barrier is extremely high and most Japanese have very little confidence in their English skills. So, I really think there is potential to further mutual understanding and make holes into the wall that separate our communities.

Canace: Yes, they have. And many of the artists I got in touch with were actually quite happy about being appreciated by foreigners. So increasing the contact between Japanese and foreigners is probably beneficial for all sides.

General: I spent a lot of time thinking whether this discussion in English should be moved into a different thread. But I think it is better to have it here. My aim here is to work towards integration, not segregation, so I want to encourage Japanese members to get in touch not only with each other, but also with foreigners interested in them and their world.

このスレの英語の書き込み気にしないで下さい。返事するか、返事しないかということは自由ですから、全然駄目なら、無視してもよろしいです。気楽で日本語でも、英語でも書き込んで下さい。

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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby MementoMori » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:04 am

That's a nice idea, and I just wanted to say now, since you mentioned that a lot of Japanese are unconfident in their English skills, I just wanted to say that I'm sure the community (I know I can speak for myself for this, at least) can recognize when a poster is posting in english as a 2nd language whether they specify that or not in their post, and I just pay extra attention and do my best at trying to understand what they're saying. It doesn't bother me, I appreciate their trying to communicate in the language that I speak, I'm sure I'd sound similar if I tried to do the same with them. XD So even if they want to post in the more english-oriented threads, I wanted to say that I know I'm not the only one that is respectful to the english-as-a-2nd-language posters that are posting in English. I don't laugh at their "english skillz", I mean really, it's usually not -totally- different from fluent english.. I just thought I'd add that, dunno if it helps but, yeah :)
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Deathworks » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:13 am

Hi!

Thank you, RaggedRook. I think the point you make is very important, and I hope that it will reach people's heart.

In other news, the Portal has started a Japanese subforum similar to the German one. Because of that, I want to shift the focus of this thread here even more on furthering the contact between Japanese speakers and English speakers. That subforum is Japanese posts only, but this thread here accepts both.

RaggedRookさんが英語についての大事なコメントを書いてくれたと思いますから、ぜひこの上のコメントを読んで下さい。

そして、只今、Eka's Portalの日本語のフォーラムが始まりました。日本語だけの場所になりますから、ぜひ気楽に使って下さい。この新しいフォーラムがありますから、このスレの方向をちょっと変わろうと思います。日本語を使う人達の間の会話に、多分新しいフォーラムの方が向いていると思いますから、このスレを日本語を使う人達と英語を使う人達を馴染める為に使いたいと思います。フォーラムの方が日本語だけになりますけど、このスレは英語でも日本語でも平気です。ぜひ、気楽を使って下さい。

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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby mint17 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:39 am

日本人筆頭mintが遅れてきましたよ~(*^∀^*)
日本語のフォーラムですか!
嬉しい限りです!

よくよく考えたら両方(英語と日本語)入れた方が良かったですね。
すいませんでした。 ^^;

そして相変わらずEkaさんがかっこいいです。
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby mint17 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:42 am

ってコレ、どうやってスレを作ればいいんだろう…… :?:
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Deathworks » Sat Feb 13, 2010 2:46 am

こんにちは、Deathworksです。

気に入ったらよかったです。まだ新しいものですから、スレが余りありません。気楽で使って下さい。話題があれば、日本語のフォーラムでぜひ新しいスレを立って下さい。
そして、興味がありそうな友達が居れば、その友達も誘って下さい。一緒に楽しい時間を過ごしましょう。

あら、フォーラムに居ると「NEW TOPIC」というボタンがあるはずですけど、もしかしたら権利の問題がありますか。

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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Deathworks » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:20 am

こんにちは、Deathworksです。

フォーラムが多分直っていますから、ぜひ使ってみて下さい。もしかしたらまだ何か問題があれば、ぜひここに書き込んで下さい。
迷惑かけて本当に申し訳ございません。

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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Slash » Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:46 am

This is a great idea. We do need to break the culture barrier.
これは大きなアイデアです。 私たちは文化障壁を壊す必要があります。

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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby racer_xtreme » Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:50 am

Deathworks wrote:EDIT: Since there seems to be some misunderstandings, allow me to clarify. This thread is meant to welcome and encourage Japanese and people who speak Japanese to participate on the site.We now have an official Japanese subforum. Thus, I would like to shift the focus of this thread towards improving the ties between Japanese speakers and English speakers. I hope this edit clarifies these intentions.


Not really a misunderstanding. You posted a thread entirely in japanese on an english language board. Not only that, but this board has a dedicated "japanese" forum specifically for posting in japanese, which makes this thread off-topic and miscatagorized as well as annoying to the 99% of us who don't speak japanese.

While I welcome the japanese artists and fans to the board, I do appreciate being able to read the forums and would prefer they remain in english. If you think this is harsh, I would direct your to consider the large number of japanese message baords which have blocked all north american IP addresses due to people posting on them in english.

To paraphrase the GTS Shrinker Uploader:

"I had expend effort to make the uploader useful for Non-[English] speakers.
In return, I ask you to see and tell your opinions HERE. You can use "[Japanese] topic" to tell your opinions."
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby cownugget » Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:38 am

I am completely cool with DW making the Japanese vore artists feel more welcome.


I could care less if this was posted on the English forums. I don't read half of the posts here anyway.


The Japanese do not block US vores because we post in English... They USUALLY do it because American vore fans STEAL THEIR WORK AND POST IT ON OTHER SITES WITHOUT PERMISSION...
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Deathworks » Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:45 am

Hi!

First of all, I want to thank Slash and Cownugget for their support.

Racer_xtreme: I am afraid you are mistaken on three accounts:

First, this site is not strictly English only. You will not find any rule saying so, and in fact, we already have a thread here inviting Spanish speaking people to communicate with each other in Spanish. At least that is what I could gather from the Spanish (!) title of the thread. Originally, I was aiming only at Japanese speaking members with this thread, which is why I wrote it in Japanese.

Second, as Cownugget said, we are not blocked from Japanese sites because we post in English. It is because they have the feeling that we do not respect their feelings towards their art and simply steal it. I have seen all of this on both sides - the mistrust some Japanese have towards foreigners, and the utter disregard for the feelings of the artists some members of the English language community show. This is exactly the reason why I am pushing for increased activity of Japanese members here on the Portal - in order to get more contact between the communities. This way, I hope that more non-Japanese will understand the feelings of the Japanese artists, and the undecided Japanese members of the community may see that not all foreigners are monsters.

Third, as a minor technicality, I want to point out that the Japanese subforum was created in response to this very thread. So, this thread could not have been posted there as it had not existed yet.

I admit that the way I initially phrased it may have been misleading for some, and I have tried to correct that. I am sorry about the ruckus that had caused and I hope that people understand that I have good intentions.

As I said, I hope this thread can be used as a focal point of contact between Japanese speaking and English speaking members, with both posting in either language as they feel fit to do. Because locking up Japanese members in the ghetto of the Japanese subforum is about the last thing I want to see.

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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby mint17 » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:31 am

>Deathworksさん

直ってたよー!
早速書き込んでおいたよー!(*^∀^*)
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Deathworks » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:18 pm

こんにちは、Deathworksです。

直って本当によかったです。新しいスレを作るボタンもありますか。(私がこの設定を見ることも変更ことが出来ない上に管理人でないメンバーが見る状態も全然分かりませんから聞くしかありません)

そして、書き込んでくれて有り難うございます。これからもよろしくお願いします。

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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby Eka » Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:54 pm

I apologies if this was not clear before, Deathworks have asked me and got my permission before he created this thread.

Japanese is a unique case. They do have a lot to contribute to this community. I think it is mutually beneficial that we allow them to post here in their own language without too much to worry about.
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Re: 日本の方や日本語が分かる方へ

Postby racer_xtreme » Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:38 pm

Deathworkks:

First post in the new Japanese Forum (by you): Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:48 pm

First post in this thread (also by you): Fri Feb 12, 2010 12:59 pm

Ergo, you made a post in the new japanese forum one hour and eleven minutes before creating this thread. Ergo, the japanese forum existed before you created this thread, and you were aware of it, and you were able to access it, and you even created a thread in it. Ergo, your statement "I want to point out that the Japanese subforum was created in response to this very thread. So, this thread could not have been posted there as it had not existed yet" is untrue.

It just seems you are a complete rules nazi when it comes to any behavior you do not like, and expect everyone to go along with you when you behave in a way that suits your views. Then you bash down any opposition with long winded posts and your constantly online status.

Secondly, in regards to Cownugget and Deathworks saying we are blocked because of image theft: This is true, but there are more than one message board which has specifically stated it is because of posts in english.

Eka:

I agree completely, and I hope we attract the japanese community as well as the english one! :-)

However, I do not post in French because it is not polite to the board of which the vast majority speaks only english. Even those who do speak multiple languages primarilly share english as a common language, and so it is polite for those of us with multiple languages to post in english. I think it is very appropriate that you have created specific language boards for other languages. But when I see posts on the main boards in a language I do not speak, it leaves me feeling left out of my own community.

But, in the end it is your board and I can respect your decisions.
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