Vore cliches you're tired of seeing?
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Vore cliches you're tired of seeing?
Are there any themes, elements, or plots in vore art/stories that you've grown bored of, or have always bugged you? Discuss them here!
I'll start off the thread by saying this to all artists who make art featuring Kaa or some Kaa-like snake character: stop using the phrase "Girl-Cub"!
First of all, it doesn't make any sense based on its origins. The reason they call Mowgli "man-cub" in The Jungle Book is because "man" is the general term for humans used by all the animal characters, and "cub" is just their word for child. Man-Cub = Human Child. They're not calling him a "male child". Second, it's a little creepy if you think about it, since they're essentially calling a woman a "girl-child", which either doesn't make sense if the woman being eaten is an adult, or otherwise kinda toes the line into creepy pedo territory. And third... it just sounds really dumb and I can never take it seriously.
I'll start off the thread by saying this to all artists who make art featuring Kaa or some Kaa-like snake character: stop using the phrase "Girl-Cub"!
First of all, it doesn't make any sense based on its origins. The reason they call Mowgli "man-cub" in The Jungle Book is because "man" is the general term for humans used by all the animal characters, and "cub" is just their word for child. Man-Cub = Human Child. They're not calling him a "male child". Second, it's a little creepy if you think about it, since they're essentially calling a woman a "girl-child", which either doesn't make sense if the woman being eaten is an adult, or otherwise kinda toes the line into creepy pedo territory. And third... it just sounds really dumb and I can never take it seriously.
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i'm not sure that's a cliche so much as a hangup about wording, in which case i'd at least agree that it doesn't make much sense given the meaning of the original phrase...
though on that note, the whole "snake hypnosis" thing never really appealed to me, and sometimes it does get a little aggravating to look for snake related material that doesn't involve hypnosis. not saying people who are into that should stop or anything, just that i don't really care for the way it seems to be "canon" for snakes to have hypnotic power, even outside of "jungle book" based stories.
though on that note, the whole "snake hypnosis" thing never really appealed to me, and sometimes it does get a little aggravating to look for snake related material that doesn't involve hypnosis. not saying people who are into that should stop or anything, just that i don't really care for the way it seems to be "canon" for snakes to have hypnotic power, even outside of "jungle book" based stories.
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Generally the one that bugs me is with fan art, when someone acts completely out of character for the sake of the fetish.
Now, I do completely understand this one. I mean, after all, it would be pretty difficult having a someone EAT a person without being a little out of character, and actually justifying it can have mixed results. A lot of the time it can depend on the character or tone of the picture/story, but most of the time my inner nerd always wants to say 'She'd never do that!'
Another one I have is when someone discovers they can eat people, and suddenly lose all compassion. Out of nowhere they just start picking off their friends and family like it's nothing. Again, this goes double for fan art of characters who we damn well know are good people.
Now, I do completely understand this one. I mean, after all, it would be pretty difficult having a someone EAT a person without being a little out of character, and actually justifying it can have mixed results. A lot of the time it can depend on the character or tone of the picture/story, but most of the time my inner nerd always wants to say 'She'd never do that!'
Another one I have is when someone discovers they can eat people, and suddenly lose all compassion. Out of nowhere they just start picking off their friends and family like it's nothing. Again, this goes double for fan art of characters who we damn well know are good people.
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Definitely the pred sleeping immediately after the meal. It's always done nothing for me as a device but over saturation just makes me roll my eyes at it now.
Starting to get a bit fed up of belches too. And the use of "glorp" and associated onomatopoeia.
Starting to get a bit fed up of belches too. And the use of "glorp" and associated onomatopoeia.
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Well, I mean no offense but I'd have to say revenge vore, which is especially popular with female preds. The man cheats on the wife and she eats him/his girlfriend, been done to death really.
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Cruel unfeeling preds.
Nothing against people who enjoy it but i have to wonder why having the ability to consume others seems to only occur in sociopaths? Or why does discovering the ability have the loss of empathy as a side effect? Why must the preds have no feelings other than hunger?
Nothing against people who enjoy it but i have to wonder why having the ability to consume others seems to only occur in sociopaths? Or why does discovering the ability have the loss of empathy as a side effect? Why must the preds have no feelings other than hunger?
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GoTee1 wrote:Generally the one that bugs me is with fan art, when someone acts completely out of character for the sake of the fetish.
Now, I do completely understand this one. I mean, after all, it would be pretty difficult having a someone EAT a person without being a little out of character, and actually justifying it can have mixed results. A lot of the time it can depend on the character or tone of the picture/story, but most of the time my inner nerd always wants to say 'She'd never do that!'
Another one I have is when someone discovers they can eat people, and suddenly lose all compassion. Out of nowhere they just start picking off their friends and family like it's nothing. Again, this goes double for fan art of characters who we damn well know are good people.
Oh yeah I can agree pretty heavily on this one. If I do use existing characters I usually try to sort of flex their character into the vore without outright breaking their normal character.
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Lightness0001 wrote:GoTee1 wrote:Generally the one that bugs me is with fan art, when someone acts completely out of character for the sake of the fetish.
Now, I do completely understand this one. I mean, after all, it would be pretty difficult having a someone EAT a person without being a little out of character, and actually justifying it can have mixed results. A lot of the time it can depend on the character or tone of the picture/story, but most of the time my inner nerd always wants to say 'She'd never do that!'
Another one I have is when someone discovers they can eat people, and suddenly lose all compassion. Out of nowhere they just start picking off their friends and family like it's nothing. Again, this goes double for fan art of characters who we damn well know are good people.
Oh yeah I can agree pretty heavily on this one. If I do use existing characters I usually try to sort of flex their character into the vore without outright breaking their normal character.
That's often a really difficult thing to do, hence why I prefer just to make up my own characters (not like there aren't existing characters I fantisize about..)
As for cliche, I don't like it when the prey automatically trusts the pred after ~1.5 pages of text, it feels really corny to me and it seems like it happens all the time in vore writing. Obviously the pred wants to eat them, it's not realistic!
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I'm honestly sick of smug predators. Personally, a predator whose extremely arrogant (and gets away with it) is SO enraging that it's no longer enticing, just makes me want to punch them in the face. I think you all know where I'm coming from; smug arrogance is annoying in anybody.
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Cuddly preds. I've always viewed vore as an act of violence. That in between medium between rape and beating someone half to death...before submerging them in corrosive acid (if we are talking about digestion). It was scary. Fear would crawl down your spine when the very thought of being eaten alive was scary enough. That fear was what sold it for me. No prey was willing to give themselves to be eaten, unless they were chosen as a sacrifice (in which case, they are still kind of cursing themselves for being a virgin). That's what I like. What I don't like is when the act of eating someone whole is treated as a loving and nurturing experience. That had always been kind of weird for me, at least outside of the media scope of things. As prey, I couldn't see myself--giving myself to something that had the potential to kill me. As a pred, those that can seduce their meal into climbing into their mouth and allow themselves to be digested, is quite possible the most sadistic monsters of all time. My predators can be hostile, manipulative, cruel, uncaring, even hedonistic. But they are honest. They've never tried (instinctually) try to make being eaten and dying appealing. Which that's what it is for me. That's what kind of weirds me out. Then again, I'm not the lovey-dovey type...(you love me? You adore me? That's pretty much your deal).
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There are a few cliches that come to mind that have gotten pretty old and stale for me -
- Classroom settings where the pred is a teacher giving their students a lesson on the digestive system. It seems that nearly every drawing of that setting I've seen does this XD Why not something like math, or ethics...or hell, even second-language? (Teacher eats their pupil, talks about conjugating the verb "to eat" in the respective language they're learning...haha)
- "So much for being on top of the food chain!" / "Fuck the food chain"-style rhetoric. I see this a L O T with role reversal, especially with dragon prey for some reason.
- Female preds in general. .....that counts right?
These are the only ones i can think of at the top of my head, haha.
- Classroom settings where the pred is a teacher giving their students a lesson on the digestive system. It seems that nearly every drawing of that setting I've seen does this XD Why not something like math, or ethics...or hell, even second-language? (Teacher eats their pupil, talks about conjugating the verb "to eat" in the respective language they're learning...haha)
- "So much for being on top of the food chain!" / "Fuck the food chain"-style rhetoric. I see this a L O T with role reversal, especially with dragon prey for some reason.
- Female preds in general. .....that counts right?
These are the only ones i can think of at the top of my head, haha.
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Mine would definitely be the more psychopathic preds. It's not like there's a million of them already. Come now is that really all there is to their character? Like at least feel something for other people besides sadistic cruelty?
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One vore cliche that gets on my nerves is the one where the predator eats the prey. I mean, how often do living things eat other living things? It's completely unrealistic.
"Be polite,
be professional,
but have a plan to eat everyone you meet."
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be professional,
but have a plan to eat everyone you meet."
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YoukaiChan wrote:- Classroom settings where the pred is a teacher giving their students a lesson on the digestive system. It seems that nearly every drawing of that setting I've seen does this XD Why not something like math, or ethics...or hell, even second-language? (Teacher eats their pupil, talks about conjugating the verb "to eat" in the respective language they're learning...haha)
- "So much for being on top of the food chain!" / "Fuck the food chain"-style rhetoric. I see this a L O T with role reversal, especially with dragon prey for some reason.
Agreed. Going off that:
-Bosses firing employees using vore is kind of annoying.
-Another one mainly from the furry side are the characters that literally just eat humans for some reason when there are many other options.
-"Good guy"/protagonist preds. These are often done very poorly, eating and digesting unwilling and innocent victims due to irresistible urges or just for "reasons", instead of only consuming villains. Going off of that, reformation/painless digestion justification. It's really silly and somewhat common where there are preds who justify their feeding habits with the excuses that their digestion process is painless or even pleasant and that they will reform their prey unharmed even though the victi was completely unwilling. At the very least it's a major inconvenience, at worst a mentally traumatizing experience possibly resulting in PTSD.
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BelleJar wrote:Cruel unfeeling preds.
Nothing against people who enjoy it but i have to wonder why having the ability to consume others seems to only occur in sociopaths? Or why does discovering the ability have the loss of empathy as a side effect? Why must the preds have no feelings other than hunger?
Because the prey is almost always sapient, and in order to murder a sapient being, you have to become cold and emotionally detached, in order to shut your conscience up.
Really, if someone were a serial murderer, that's what they'd be, cruel and unfeeling.
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MikeKitty wrote:BelleJar wrote:Cruel unfeeling preds.
Nothing against people who enjoy it but i have to wonder why having the ability to consume others seems to only occur in sociopaths? Or why does discovering the ability have the loss of empathy as a side effect? Why must the preds have no feelings other than hunger?
Because the prey is almost always sapient, and in order to murder a sapient being, you have to become cold and emotionally detached, in order to shut your conscience up.
Really, if someone were a serial murderer, that's what they'd be, cruel and unfeeling.
People who take the lives of others aren't always psychopathic. Killers have endless numbers of excuses for murder and those are usually sufficient enough to put their minds at ease. Sometimes it's simply spur of the moment to kill someone. Or a lapse of judgement. Hell most people would kill if they were ordered to. How else is war even possible?
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Revenge for cheating vore also annoys me. Strings of drool just kind of gross me out, as does bad smells. Burping also does nothing for me.
A lot of the things that annoy me are just the preferences of other people though. I get annoyed at all the same size vore I run into, with the bizarre stretching. But that's just a subcategory the fetish, not a cliche. Vore is broken down into a million subcategories and you're lucky if you like two of them.
A lot of the things that annoy me are just the preferences of other people though. I get annoyed at all the same size vore I run into, with the bizarre stretching. But that's just a subcategory the fetish, not a cliche. Vore is broken down into a million subcategories and you're lucky if you like two of them.
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One that kinda pisses me off sometimes is one where the prey is too childish, innocent, or otherwise mentally retarded to understand the moral implication of eating sapient beings, or understanding that whatever they eat is going to die.
But then again, I'm the type of person who likes nonfatal vore, so who am I to judge?
But then again, I'm the type of person who likes nonfatal vore, so who am I to judge?
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Xenenderson11 wrote:I'm honestly sick of smug predators. Personally, a predator whose extremely arrogant (and gets away with it) is SO enraging that it's no longer enticing, just makes me want to punch them in the face. I think you all know where I'm coming from; smug arrogance is annoying in anybody.
This transcends vore for me. Almost every vampire played straight is an incredible prick and the best part about them is the way they die.
Though this cliche works if it's a setup to the smug pred themselves being devoured, or killed from within, or whatever it takes. Though I guess that ends up more "revenge porn..."
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Birichino wrote:Xenenderson11 wrote:I'm honestly sick of smug predators. Personally, a predator whose extremely arrogant (and gets away with it) is SO enraging that it's no longer enticing, just makes me want to punch them in the face. I think you all know where I'm coming from; smug arrogance is annoying in anybody.
This transcends vore for me. Almost every vampire played straight is an incredible prick and the best part about them is the way they die.
Though this cliche works if it's a setup to the smug pred themselves being devoured, or killed from within, or whatever it takes. Though I guess that ends up more "revenge porn..."
Actually, revenge porn is where you conveniently acquire pornography that wasn't supposed to be leaked out (sometimes because you had sex with the person yourself and videotaped it without their knowledge), and leak it out in order to embarrass an enemy.
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