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Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:27 am
by TheHeadsman
Salutations fellow depraved Philistines!

An idea that has intrigued me for a few months is the concept of suicide by vore. I suppose semantically it could be compared to willing vore, though in this particular context, vore would be the vehicle for the embrace of nihilistic purity, cessation of existence, and escape from condemnation more than an arrangement in which the predator is sustained and the prey prioritizes the satisfaction of the predator above their own desire to cease living. Hopefully that made sense.

Have any of you out there entertained existential musings pertaining to this particular topic? Have you ever performed roleplay with a vore-suicide element? Would you ever want to? I'm not sure where this conversation will lead, if anywhere, but it's been on my mind lately, and other opinions might make it more interesting.

Regardless, happy browsing. Stay depraved. Fare thee well.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:35 am
by MechaSharkZilla
I've seen it used before, and I think it's... Interesting. Since I'm more into the cuddly stuff, I prefer it either being done by some holy being and cleansing their soul in the process, or the person that eats them tricked the prey, and has no intention of digesting them. A vore-based intervention, if you will.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:46 am
by TheHeadsman
Fair enough, fair enough. Thank you for your contribution.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:20 am
by TootCore
I sometimes think about it.

Willing fatal vore is in any case suicide, whether the prey has their own demise or the predator's satisfaction in mind.
Unwilling fatal vore can also account to murder.

Thinking too much about it will make you question the true nature and philosophy behind the fetish, which is dumb, as it is just that. A fetish.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:32 am
by TheHeadsman
Philosophy and ethics aside, it mostly boils down to my underlying death fixation. A combination of the two elements appeals to me. Regardless, thank you for your contribution.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 3:11 am
by wolf127
Suicide is an interesting subject for me considering that my Order's view of it. We highly condone suicide. If one is to consider suicide instead of trying to stop someone, we say, "Do it. Prove to us that you are weak and do not deserve to live." This generally yields an interesting result. Either they rebel and fight for survival, or they prove us right. Either way we win.

As far as suicide and vore, I like the concept for story and practically use it to some form in the backstory of my D&D character. The character is overall formed within a shapeshifter's womb after a man with wolf like features attempts suicide to end a war. The shapeshifter swallows the creature to attempt to put his consciousness back together after he shattered the neuro-chip that keeps his mind intact. (Because she is capable of manipulating consciousnesses and souls) Then his mate (wolf anthro) tricks the shapeshifter into swallowing her whole and absorbing her consciousness. The 2 consciousnesses combine and then create a body within its host.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:16 am
by stearwing
My personal belief, unquestionably shaped by personal history and by my education, is that among others we have a duty to live, and that a life that continues on nothing but duty is a life most virtuous.

That doesn't stop me from taking willing prey. They'll invariably die, I'm that kind of predator, but I play that part to escape the strict moral code that guides my actions in real life.
Despite that, I'm still unwilling to accept obviously ill prey. Physical illness due to not wanting to consume meat of inferior quality, mental illness for more personal reasons.
I might also reject prey who quote nihilism at me, usually because those are the types whose understanding of Nietzsche is shaped by popular culture as opposed to actual reading and discussion of his works. I don't eat goths, sorry.

That said, to answer the question: I have experimented with it, due in no small part to a depressive-to-suicidal Internet acquaintance of mine I've been trying to help stay alive. So far the keeping-him-alive part seems to be working, but of course certain themes find their way into the discussion even if it is merely about fetish content.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:51 am
by IEatYouWhole
I have actually weirdly been asked by real people and not in a role-play, if I would actually eat someone 3 times in total, for me I enjoy the fantasy of it all, but its kind of scary to know that there are people who want to be eaten irl and scarier when they want you to eat them, but imagining that there was someone who wanted to die by being swallowed whole and digested or more hard vore eaten, I wouldn't be surprised if the first option would be more unwilling pred. I mean imagine someone walking up to you and just forcing their hands, arms and head into your mouth and throat, then climbing in as you stand or kneel there surprised at what just happened, as your tummy fills full of a person who had to you unaware at the time, wanted to commit suicide, then finding a note on the floor or in your pocket or somewhere on your person the suicidal meal had put on you first only for you to later find out its a suicide note you would be kind of upset that you have basically become a murder weapon, also the Psychological effects might have you later do the same to someone else or actually make you a predator with a taste for it.

i don't think I would ever rp this, as I am more of a pred that likes to hunt unwilling prey. Willing prey are okay sometimes , but they are not as fun and quickly get boring :P unless its unwilling pred then i'm more into it cause i have only ever role-played once as an unwilling pred ;p

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 6:08 am
by Jayezox
It's interesting, but not something I would RP. I RP to escape sadness. If I want sadness, I look to real life events as those tend to be filled with it.

Probably the most interesting part is the predator pulling a doctor Kovorkian on a terminally ill and suffering prey. Give him his last wishes by going out with a bang inside a beautiful predator. One of the few cases where fatal vore is doing good.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:48 am
by coop500
MechaSharkZilla wrote:I've seen it used before, and I think it's... Interesting. Since I'm more into the cuddly stuff, I prefer it either being done by some holy being and cleansing their soul in the process, or the person that eats them tricked the prey, and has no intention of digesting them. A vore-based intervention, if you will.


I personally like the idea of the tricking the prey and not digesting them, it could make for a interesting story on how the pred can convince the prey to not die.

As for the OP's question, since I'm into cuddly vore as well it's hard for me to get into it, plus personal conflicts with suicide in general, it is a interesting new twist on willing fatal vore, besides the usual giving oneself to the pred.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:34 am
by Cowrie
I'm not a fan of the depression aspect that goes along with suicide, but I've done a couple of things where reluctant predators ask willing prey why they want to die.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:54 am
by sweetladyamy
If I wanted to essentially vanish without a trace, this would be the perfect way to do so.

To be honest, yes I've considered this method of suicide, though actually finding a capable predator would not be easy.

It is much more something of a distraction than anything else, but if it were possible, I'd take this route.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:06 pm
by Trebortron3
Interesting topic. I don't have too much to add given that I've never explored it much (I'm big into unwilling vore, so by design the intention of committing suicide by vore is willing and thus less appealing to me), though there was an old art piece I enjoyed - can't remember who the artist was, but I think maybe YouDon'tKnowJack from FA. In any case, it was some businessguy about to jump from the top of a building, and a giantess hidden just out of his view with her mouth open. I thought that was amusing.

That all being said, it would be remiss of me not to share a couple of links that should always be to hand when discussing this sort of this:

https://www.samaritans.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... isis_lines

No judgement, I'm aware we're talking about fetish stuff here, but you never know who's feeling it more seriously than the rest of us.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 1:09 pm
by minakotomoka14
I actually have written stuff like this on a couple occasions. I find the idea very dark, but very intriguing. I once wrote a roleplay with a friend where my character was permanently shrunken down by a magic spell, and becomes so miserable with her tiny new life that she asks the predator (her best friend) to eat her and put her out of her misery. My friend and I also wrote another roleplay that revolved around the same idea. I'll link it to you here if any of you are interested in reading it.

https://aryion.com/g4/view/443227

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 2:57 pm
by ArcaneSigil
MechaSharkZilla wrote: being done by some holy being and cleansing their soul in the process


So... for example (since I don't have any non-divine characters that aren't female at the moment) my character Aurelia, who is the Head Goddess among a small pantheon of deities, is capable of transforming into a dragon shape and she can swallow people whole, digesting their sins and releasing them whole and pure. Something like that?

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 4:58 pm
by ZeeTheHellion
That's...a BIG kink of mine. Willing fatal vore is something I love to practice.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:07 pm
by TheHeadsman
Thanks to all of you who have contributed so far. I apologize if the subject matter is offensive or upsetting to anyone, as this was never my intention. Regardless, many of you have made interesting points, and I've enjoyed considering all of your individual perspectives on the issue.

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 8:33 pm
by zarpaulus

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 1:30 pm
by chelie
Yep, love it! Why? :P

Re: Suicide by Virtue of Vore

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 5:54 pm
by kowkushion
Personally, I'm totally against it on a moral level. While I enjoy willing vore, having suicide as the justification for it makes me more than uncomfortable, and not just because it doesn't turn me on. In a way it kind of romanticizes suicide, making it look comforting, desirable and even erotic instead of the painful, life-destroying horror that suicide is in real life. I know that sounds hypocritical coming from someone who gets off on the thought of people getting swallowed by dragons and monsters, but that's pretty much all fantasy, whereas suicide is something that seriously effects thousands of people ever year, both those who commit it and people close to them.

I mean, I've dealt with suicidal thoughts in middle/high school before, and seeing/reading stuff that romanticized suicide like this (not vore, but still) only made me feel more willing to finally do it. I never did obviously; I never even attempted it. But still, suicide is a very serious topic that shouldn't be treated lightly, especially when it comes to porn. At the very least, if you really think adding suicidal elements to your story/drawing would make it work, at least tag it appropriately.