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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Zangoose » Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:13 pm

Fat from digestion only going into one particular body part, usually the breasts. That's not how fat distribution works.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby minakotomoka14 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:50 am

Female preds in general, especially cruel giantesses and stuff like that. It's basically the same scenario over and over.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby illirium » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:53 am

"Disproportionate Retribution" -- the prey does something to "deserve" being eaten and digested, but it's usually something mild, and amounts to little more than merely annoying the pred. Sometimes this is played for laughs, with the story lampshading how unfair the situation is for the prey, but sometimes the trope is actually played straight to try and make the pred more sympathetic, which can have mixed results.

A related trope would be the "Asshole Victim" -- the pred isn't necessarily a nice person, but their prey is portrayed as an even bigger jerk. This trope can work to make the pred more sympathetic for the reader. On the other hand, if used egregiously, it can lead to the "Eight Deadly Words" -- "I don't care what happens to these people." If both the pred and prey are too unsympathetic, the reader might simply lose interest in the story, due to an absence of relatable or likeable characters.

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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby TimberWolf25 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:00 pm

Writing vore is a challenge. I tried writing and it's too hard. I'm more of a visual artist.
It's extremely difficult to avoid these tropes. I find it easier to make the protagonist a borderline animal, or just make the prey as non human as possible.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby illirium » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:02 pm

TimberWolf25 wrote:Writing vore is a challenge. I tried writing and it's too hard. I'm more of a visual artist.
It's extremely difficult to avoid these tropes. I find it easier to make the protagonist a borderline animal, or just make the prey as non human as possible.


To quote TvTropes, "tropes are not bad." There's nothing wrong with using any of these clichés -- it's all in how you do it.

... But yeah, writing is hard. :P I tried it a few times and sort of gave up, though lately long-form RP has been scratching that itch for me (having someone else to work with really helps, and keeps you motivated...)
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby TimberWolf25 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:13 pm

RP seems easier writing since you're working with 2 or more people.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Marco » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:04 pm

illirium wrote:"Disproportionate Retribution" -- the prey does something to "deserve" being eaten and digested, but it's usually something mild, and amounts to little more than merely annoying the pred. Sometimes this is played for laughs, with the story lampshading how unfair the situation is for the prey, but sometimes the trope is actually played straight to try and make the pred more sympathetic, which can have mixed results.

A related trope would be the "Asshole Victim" -- the pred isn't necessarily a nice person, but their prey is portrayed as an even bigger jerk. This trope can work to make the pred more sympathetic for the reader. On the other hand, if used egregiously, it can lead to the "Eight Deadly Words" -- "I don't care what happens to these people." If both the pred and prey are too unsympathetic, the reader might simply lose interest in the story, due to an absence of relatable or likeable characters.

These and other clichés are made available to you by the fine people at TropeCo.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Cowrie » Tue Aug 07, 2018 1:25 pm

They may not have an actual vore page, but they have several tropes that are highly relevant, and I believe one or two of them actually mention the fetish in their examples section. Don't want to risk losing time by going to try hunt the tropes in question down right now, though. One very relevant trope is definitely called "Literal Maneater", though, and I think another is named "Devouring Passion" or something similar.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Marco » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:32 pm

Yeah, there's lots to choose from, both from actual "eating or being eaten" tropes ("Just Deserts" is another one), but also there are tropes in general that tend to appear in vore scenarios, even though they aren't purely about being eaten. As mentioned earlier "Disproportionate Retribution" fits in, because very few things are enough to make someone deserve to be eaten, and I'm sure that is often deliberately the case. I hope I've still got it saved, because I was really getting into it.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby stearwing » Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:47 am

illirium wrote:To quote TvTropes, "tropes are not bad."

To also quote TVT (or All The Tropes, which I personally prefer), clichés are not tropes, and clichés are bad.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Birichino » Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:51 am

Artemis wrote:Someone gets eaten. Original much?


You need to rebrand your thinking. It's not "eating," it's "Unconventional Wrapping!"
"Aggressive Relocation?"
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Brazzel » Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:17 am

I love me some character cliches! Here are the ones I see all the time in vore writing:

Apathetic giantess who talks like a D-list porn actress.
Inexperienced man who isn't sure if he likes being eaten but the thought gets his dick hard. Spoilers: He gets eaten.
The overly-motherly character with shady motivations.
The tsundere, a staple of all creative endeavors.
Needlessly cruel man or woman who speaks like a James Bond villain.
The borderline brain-dead fey characters who is just curious about the small human and wants them in her vagina for...reasons?
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Barghest236 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:36 pm

Dunno if this is a true cliche, but I've seen more than a little of this:

Character runs into a man-eating animal (snake, plant, octopus, etc.) who starts to devour her. She's not scared because she remembers stumbling onto vore on the internet, and instead totally gets off on the situation.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Barghest236 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:40 pm

Birichino wrote:
Artemis wrote:Someone gets eaten. Original much?


You need to rebrand your thinking. It's not "eating," it's "Unconventional Wrapping!"
"Aggressive Relocation?"
"Bio-Reconfiguration."


"Alternative Snacks"?
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Scrumptious » Fri Aug 10, 2018 1:42 pm

stearwing wrote:
illirium wrote:To quote TvTropes, "tropes are not bad."

To also quote TVT (or All The Tropes, which I personally prefer), clichés are not tropes, and clichés are bad.


I guess trope being good or bad depends on the degree to which we're including the term overused in the definition of the term.

Dictionary definitions aside, I think it's useful to differentiate between plot elements that are seen very frequently and trite elements that are also seen frequently but do not add to what the story (&etc) is trying to convey.

There are a lot of plot elements that we see frequently, but which are part and parcel of the genre. For a lot of us, this stuff is a sexual turn-on, and certain of those elements are necessary to accomplish the goal. However, we're not all turned on by exactly the same things. For those elements that are necessary for some of us are not for others, and when those others see that something they just don't see it in the same light.

Of course, sometimes it really just is the result of a lack of imagination.

For my part, the things that I could do without are some of the taunts: "you're going to be part of my [blank]"; "I'm going to turn you into poo."

Also, a lot of stories go into excessive description about what the pred (usually female) looks like - especially describing how big her breasts are (proportionally, speaking). As a reader, I'd prefer to impose my own image, given that the particular looks are not generally necessary elements of the plot. Also, huge breasts turn me off, but that's just me.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Artemis » Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:55 pm

All the most popular tropes are the ones used so often you don't even think of them as tropes. Absolutely everything is a trope, when it comes down to it. Really the idea that a trope can be overused is just kinda nitpicking and heckling creators, which honestly just isn't cool.

So I'm going to try and shed some light on what a cliche is instead, since that's actually pretty fun to get into.

A trope is everything, as I established earlier.

A cliche... is basically a dead meme. Allow me to explain. A cliche is a trope/idea that has become so popular, bad writers / directors have started using it in a clumsy fashion without any grasp on what made the trope good writing at one point in time. It's a nuanced term, nuance that often gets lost in pop culture.

EXAMPLE:
"Actions speak louder than words"

Let's say you're watching a movie where the main character performs a public speech where he promises to rebuild a destroyed community center out of his own pocket as a gesture of goodwill to the community. An audience member heckles him by yelling out "Actions speak louder than words!"

...That is a cliche because:
1) The trope/idea is popular
2) It is being misused in a rather clumsy fashion that really just misses the mark. Unless the main character was established as a compulsive liar who gave grand speeches and never followed through, it really doesn't make sense for someone to be shouting that particular one-liner.

Yes, this means that cliches can, in fact, stop being cliches. That's called clever writing and it solves everything. Calling something a cliche is really more of a criticism of that specific work than the idea as a whole, though it's not wrong to call the idea itself a cliche if it's often used as one at the moment. A bit prejudiced, but it's an idea not a person so I think that's not a big deal.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby Philosoraptor » Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:40 pm

Dumb, utterly impossible 'role-reversal' vore of typical pred and prey is the worst.... like the mouse swallows the cat, the zebra swallows the lion' or the princess swallows the dragon without any sensible explanation. Even a seven year old can't take these things seriously.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby go47 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:48 pm

TLDR: Man it just sucks that my fetish website has fetish content on it. ugh people with different preferences to me are just insufferable.
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Re: Common Stereotypes/cliches you see in vore?

Postby TimberWolf25 » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:30 pm

go47 wrote:TLDR: Man it just sucks that my fetish website has fetish content on it. ugh people with different preferences to me are just insufferable.


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