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Vore, sexuality and taboo. opinions needed

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:26 pm
by Debodab66
Since I was 13 I’ve always had these thoughts about being shrunk around my older sister after a while it eveolved into vore thoughts of her eating me in multiple scenarios, my question is could that mean that i might be bi For havibg this ideas? And is it normal to have a vore fantasy about close family members??

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 5:53 pm
by merlovinit
"Normal" tends not to apply when it comes to vore fetish, in my opinion. If you hang around this community you'll find that everyone's fantasies are very specific and personal in a lot of ways. I'm a completely gay guy with zero interest in having sex with women. However, a really good vore fantasy involving women can still turn me on. The thought of being eaten is more important than the sex of the people involved, it would seem. I'm more used to it since in the past it was a lot harder to find vore artwork featuring men compared to women.

You might fantasize about your sister because of a certain power dynamic that exists between you two, or if you feel inferior to her somehow perhaps?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:05 pm
by yetra
Well, did the thoughts feel sexual to you, did they excite you in ways beyond just fantasy? I don't know your gender but I'm assuming you're a girl. If you've had sexual thoughts about girls, that could make you bi or lesbian. Only you know what label fits you best.

If it's just your older sister and no other girls, then it's hard to say, it could've just been confused teenage hormones latching onto someone familiar. It's not super uncommon for confused kids to have thoughts like that about family members, it's not really normal but definitely not unheard of.

And if it wasn't really sexual at all, I don't see why it would really mean anything special. Lots of people enjoy vore for non-sexual reasons.

Maybe you should try and figure out if there was any reason you felt the way you did--did you have a good relationship with your sister? Did she ever do anything to make you feel that way?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:38 pm
by sevensix
Debodab66 wrote:Since I was 13 I’ve always had these thoughts about being shrunk around my older sister after a while it eveolved into vore thoughts of her eating me in multiple scenarios, my question is could that mean that i might be bi For havibg this ideas?

I don't think the orientation police will come after you for having fantasies, if that's what you mean. Just don't bring them up in a context where it could come back to you.

Debodab66 wrote:And is it normal to have a vore fantasy about close family members??

Nobody really knows, because "normal" people know better than to volunteer that sort of thing.

I hope the account you're on isn't linked to anything your sister could find (e.g. being derived from your name and/or birth date).

Re: Vore, sexuality and taboo. opinions needed

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:43 pm
by Raiza
Incest is a pretty common kink, one of mine. Granted, I've never had an attraction to an actual family member. I have no moral objections two consenting adults doing whatever they want, related or otherwise. However, it does sounds more like you're fearing the implications of the possibility. I've had similar thoughts with some writing subjects I've done. I hope something I or someone else says helps lead you to the answers you seek.

Two main things I want to say to you though...

You shouldn't feel guilty about any sexual fantasy you have. What's in your head is there, and if it gets you off, great. As long as no temptations to hurt yourself or anyone else comes to life, I don't see any reason to stop in fear/shame.

If you're Bisexual etc, just know there is nothing wrong with that. It's healthy to question your sexuality, especially as you learn more information on the subject. After all, sexuality is more of a sliding scale than anything else.

Re: Vore, sexuality and taboo. opinions needed

PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:02 pm
by sevensix
Raiza wrote:sexuality is more of a sliding scale than anything else.

I respectfully disagree, but trust OP to make her own judgment.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 7:14 pm
by Artemis
I "liked" vore all the way back in like kindergarten or pre-school. I remember I drew a lil' stick figure vore drawing and got in trouble for it. Pretty sure I had no concept of sex or sexuality, so was that sexual or did I just think it was god damn hilarious? Was it because I watched a cartoon and thought it was hilarious? Was I just born that way? I really don't know anymore.

You probably shouldn't be having vore fantasies about real-life people, or fantasies about your family in general. I don't know how concerning that is on a scale of 10. It might not be a big deal since those are just thoughts. Only you can judge if those thoughts are impacting your health or relationships with others. But it's generally a good idea to keep a thick barrier between fantasy and reality. ...And y'know, to leave family out of it.

As for being bi--Your sexual orientation refers more to who you're sexually attracted to. Since vore is not objectively analogous to sex, it doesn't necessarily mean anything about your orientation. I'm 100% into other girls, but I have no problems dominating and eating boys. I'm simply getting my enjoyment from a place other than an attraction to them.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:24 pm
by yetra
sevensix wrote:
Raiza wrote:sexuality is more of a sliding scale than anything else.

I respectfully disagree, but trust OP to make her own judgment.

Curious what you mean by this--clearly bi people of multiple different levels of preference exist, and for many their preferences do change over time or depending on mood and so forth. Do you mean that it's not necessarily as flexible for everyone?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:14 pm
by ryanshowseason3
sevensix wrote:
Raiza wrote:sexuality is more of a sliding scale than anything else.

I respectfully disagree, but trust OP to make her own judgment.


???

Some people like men, others like cross dressers, others like only futa with vaginas and others don't mind if they have balls or not. Then still others like trap content and others only if they identify as shemale and have breast implants.

Honestly it's more than a sliding scale, it's a 3 dimensional vector space. I'm really hoping you don't think it's a binary world of gay, straight and possibly two bits for bi. Honestly you're in one of the most bizarre fetishes on the planet, open your mind!

If I'm mistaken I apologize, but this comment came off as rather close minded, especially for a group as odd as us.

Artemis wrote: I'm 100% into other girls, but I have no problems dominating and eating boys. I'm simply getting my enjoyment from a place other than an attraction to them.


I'd love to hear more about this. I've tried making a character recently around this concept but would love to have it expanded upon from a genuine source.

Wondering if you have a blog entry or story that explores it?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:54 am
by 157and493
I really have no advice about the sexuality aspects, but if it makes you feel any better I used to fantasize about my aunt eating me so you are not the only one who has had fantasies about family members. I of course no longer fantasize about things involving family because I know that is probably not a good habit to get into.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 6:59 pm
by Jakar
I think none other than you can answer the question you posed. As one with an incest fetish...but not relating it to actual family members, I can see the appeal. And with vore, there's a big domination/sub aspect. If it is only...and ONLY your sister, who is of a female persuasion then maybe it's more about the power dynamic.

And if you enjoy the power dynamic, that doesn't necessarily mean you have an attraction to the sex of who is doing it.

If you have a vore fetish, it kinda messes up the mix...it isn't logical. You can't for sure say 'I like girls' because you like it in a vore setting. There's just something unusual that sets it aside from other fetishes.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:06 pm
by sevensix
yetra wrote:Curious what you mean by this--clearly bi people of multiple different levels of preference exist, and for many their preferences do change over time or depending on mood and so forth. Do you mean that it's not necessarily as flexible for everyone?

I mean that there's a lot more variation in "sexuality" from moment to moment for a single person, let alone from person to person, than can be represented by a "scale" between universally defined points. What would that even mean? Liking males more automatically makes you like females less, and vice versa?

ryanshowseason3 wrote:Some people like men, others like cross dressers, others like only futa with vaginas and others don't mind if they have balls or not. Then still others like trap content and others only if they identify as shemale and have breast implants.

I'm suspicious that there's really a significant number of people exclusively attracted to fantasy sexes. There's a big difference between liking something in porn and wanting it in real life. I'd think that "a group as odd as us" would know that better than anyone.

Also, how can someone with breast implants be a "trap"?

ryanshowseason3 wrote:Honestly it's more than a sliding scale, it's a 3 dimensional vector space.

These models just seem to get more and more arbitrary. Why 3 dimensions? Which one corresponds to interest in vore?

None of which has anything to do with orientation, which is a set of discrete categories specifically designed to be simple and manageable for everyday questions like "Should I hit on this person?". Private, physically impossible daydreams don't really factor into that.

Re: Vore, sexuality and taboo. opinions needed

PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:16 pm
by Artemis
ryanshowseason3 wrote:???

Some people like men, others like cross dressers, others like only futa with vaginas


This looks like it's just a semantics issue to me.

Usually, the term sexuality is used as shorthand for sexual orientation. A lot of people simply don't like conflating sexual orientation with sexual preferences.

Sexual orientation is who you like, referring primarily to identity. (You like this type of person.)

Sexual preference is what you like, referring primarily to what you want to do with afformentioned people. (Kinks, fetishes)

The general discomfort with conflating the two has to do with the idea that it's unhealthy / uncomfortable to make your sexual preferences your identity. Most people accept that it's okay for being straight or gay to be a large part of your identity, but if you were to say that vore, futa or crossdressing was a huge part of your identity you'd probably get a lot more mixed feelings on the matter. But yeah, it's just a semantics issue.


ryanshowseason3 wrote:
Artemis wrote: I'm 100% into other girls, but I have no problems dominating and eating boys. I'm simply getting my enjoyment from a place other than an attraction to them.


I'd love to hear more about this. I've tried making a character recently around this concept but would love to have it expanded upon from a genuine source.

Wondering if you have a blog entry or story that explores it?


Oh well--No, mostly because there really isn't a lot to say? It's like how just because I'm not into boys doesn't mean I don't enjoy playing video games with them. I know this might be controversial to a few people, but it's objectively true when I say vore isn't sex, or even analogous to sex. So although I lose all interest in any aspect of romance or intimacy when boys are involved, I can still enjoy the powerful feeling gobbling up another person gives me, or the humor in cartoonishly swallowing someone. People getting eaten is funny, and horrifying, and cute, and awesome. Boys are at least still vaguely people, unlike say an animal pred/prey, so I've found that there's still enough ground to enjoy playing with them even if I'm not attracted to them. vwv

Re: Vore, sexuality and taboo. opinions needed

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:11 pm
by Debodab66
merlovinit wrote:"Normal" tends not to apply when it comes to vore fetish, in my opinion. If you hang around this community you'll find that everyone's fantasies are very specific and personal in a lot of ways. I'm a completely gay guy with zero interest in having sex with women. However, a really good vore fantasy involving women can still turn me on. The thought of being eaten is more important than the sex of the people involved, it would seem. I'm more used to it since in the past it was a lot harder to find vore artwork featuring men compared to women.

You might fantasize about your sister because of a certain power dynamic that exists between you two, or if you feel inferior to her somehow perhaps?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:14 pm
by Debodab66
Well she is 5 years older than me she have a bit of a bossy/controling personality and I asked about sexuality because I have zero interest in sex even when I have sex with a guy I keep having vore thoughts involving my sister or other women but it all started with my sister that’s why I asked about that.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:24 pm
by Debodab66
I do have vore thoughts about other women but as I mentioned it all started with my older sister and I feel that she have some features that made me think of her that way like her long wide neck and her lips I’v noticed that every other women that I LIKE in a vore fantasy have the same features as my older sister , and when I asked about the taboo part wasn’t asking only for my sister fantasty, but Because I’ve had a couple of scenarios where my mom and my sisters friends where involved “basically I fantasized about my older sister placing me my mom’s food as a punishment” but all my vore fantasy is focused on my older sister as a dominant giantess even when my mom or her friends is involved they are mostly “unaware giantess” type.

Re: Vore, sexuality and taboo. opinions needed

PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2019 7:26 pm
by ryanshowseason3
sevensix wrote:These models just seem to get more and more arbitrary. Why 3 dimensions? Which one corresponds to interest in vore?


Oh I see you just don't have the capacity or willingness to take an idiom as it is and instead facetiously pick it apart in a literal sense in order to troll.

I thought you might be intensely narrow minded but that's not the case, just intent on being insufferably dense to metaphor.

Conversation over. As Artemis put it: Semantics.

Artemis wrote:Oh well--No, mostly because there really isn't a lot to say? It's like how just because I'm not into boys doesn't mean I don't enjoy playing video games with them. I know this might be controversial to a few people, but it's objectively true when I say vore isn't sex, or even analogous to sex. So although I lose all interest in any aspect of romance or intimacy when boys are involved, I can still enjoy the powerful feeling gobbling up another person gives me, or the humor in cartoonishly swallowing someone. People getting eaten is funny, and horrifying, and cute, and awesome. Boys are at least still vaguely people, unlike say an animal pred/prey, so I've found that there's still enough ground to enjoy playing with them even if I'm not attracted to them. vwv


I'd more say it's not analogous to sex for you. For others it seems to be a pretty intimate thing, quite a few really.

But still it's an interesting perspective to me from a writing standpoint. Most of my commissions and things I'm requested to write come from a sexual angle even if sometimes it is just the bait on the hook that leads to vore.

It's enlightening to to have it described as just something done casually or for fun. I think I can write a better character coming from your unique viewpoint now.

Although I wonder how you enjoy things from the prey angle if at all then, or if someone out there does in a completely non-sexual manner. I can wrap my head around "the powerful feeling gobbling up another person gives" but how does that translate to the prey side?

Either way thanks for elaborating just this much, I have to bookmark your post somehow for reference, there's a brand of thought there that's unique and has the seed of some archetype that is new to me.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:21 am
by Happyhourlim
I have had Vore fantasize involving my close family for as long as I can remember, It’s bot a thing to worry about it just fantasy and I think your sister being controlling as you said plays a big role in this she is more fit for you as a predator.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:16 pm
by Artemis
ryanshowseason3 wrote:It's enlightening to to have it described as just something done casually or for fun. I think I can write a better character coming from your unique viewpoint now.

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Either way thanks for elaborating just this much, I have to bookmark your post somehow for reference, there's a brand of thought there that's unique and has the seed of some archetype that is new to me.


I'm glad to help! As a writer, I love to think I'm not the only one trying to improve beyond the scope of helping people get off. =u=

ryanshowseason3 wrote:Although I wonder how you enjoy things from the prey angle if at all then, or if someone out there does in a completely non-sexual manner. I can wrap my head around "the powerful feeling gobbling up another person gives" but how does that translate to the prey side?


Hmmm... I would definitely say that it's easier to enjoy being a pred in a non-sexual manner. However, there's a sort of enjoyment coming from the visceral fear of being trapped inside a stomach and the ickiness of the situation, a lot like the excitement that comes from fighting a powerful foe you know is about to beat you senseless.

In a sense, there's nothing sexy about a T-Rex, but watching one eat a dude in Jurassic Park is still incredibly awesome to me. It turns out that vore is just a really cool trope on its own y'know?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:16 am
by Kitsouille
Well vore isn't normal (doesn't mean it's wrong) but those fantasies are very normal in vore.