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The Twilight Zone was a show known for weaving a message into the story, things about humanity and right versus wrong. How do you feel as a reader, when reading giantess vore stories or stories where shrunken men get swallowed alive by normal sized women, (fatal or non-fatal) would you prefer to have that type of message inserted into the narrative of a giantesss vore story, or do you prefer that messages should be left out?

Theme is the message of a story, I learned that in high school English class. Do you feel that giantess vore stories aren’t true literature and shouldn’t have a theme? Are giantess stories just fap fests? I want to know what the majority of people here think.

The purpose of a story is up to the writer, in my opinion.
Arousal? Give a moral lesson? Make think the reader? You decide, when you write your fiction.

I think that the vast majority of the users here just want to fap, but an artist should do what he/she feel, not what the public want, in my opinion. Or combine the two, at most.

It's pretty much just porn to me. That's not to say that smut can't be well-written and requires no skill - there are plenty of incredibly bad vore stories out there to show that. But I certainly don't consume (pun intended) vore content when I'm looking for anything but a way to get my rocks off. There's more than enough other normal literature/film/art/what have you out there if I'm looking for a serious experience.

notitthrowaway wrote:It's pretty much just porn to me. That's not to say that smut can't be well-written and requires no skill - there are plenty of incredibly bad vore stories out there to show that. But I certainly don't consume (pun intended) vore content when I'm looking for anything but a way to get my rocks off. There's more than enough other normal literature/film/art/what have you out there if I'm looking for a serious experience.

I'm wondering if your point of view represents the majority.

I, for one, am deeply entertained when a writer manages to sneak a philosophical point or moral lesson into a well-written piece of smut. I feel the audience on this site will always have fap material foremost on their mind, but that doesn't mean they won't appreciate a little seasoning. Just, you know, don't cram it down their throats.

I think by nature stories tend to have themes, even if you don't consciously put them there. You could write a rhetorical analysis of just about any vore fic on the site and make all kinds of statements on dominance symbolism and human sexual nature. Even when the theme is "man I wish I were tiny so I could be eaten alive by a pretty girl." there's still enough to unpack for it to sufficiently count as "literature." Not great literature, mind you, but then again I don't go critiquing pictures of anime women with bulging stomachs and huge boobs for lackluster use of chiaroscuro. You could weave in a ton of symbolism and try to make a larger point with a piece, but it'd probably be lost on the intended audience. That said I have paused some "private sessions" to read through some weirdly heavy stuff before, but overall I'd rate the experience as more confusing than artistic.

On the other hand, I've remarked that one of the better/more convenient parts of fetish writing is that you generally don't have to worry about a lot of things that actual short fiction usually requires, like long term character development, act structure, etc. It feels like bad practice,TBH. That doesn't mean It's all bad though. I've really gotten to flex some creative muscles developing interesting scenarios, dialogue, and introducing characters. I still suck at 2/3 of those things but I'm certainly better than where I was a year ago.

Themes don't have to be some massive great overarching message about human morality or whatever. If you're writing giantess vore stories in the first place, your main theme is probably "giantesses eating people is hot", and that's perfectly okay. But every additional idea that gets woven into the story is a new theme. The more ideas your story can fit in and handle well, the more interesting it'll be, as long as those ideas are interesting to others.

Maybe try breaking down some of the stories you've written yourself. I'm sure you can find additional themes in there. Then you just have to ask yourself--did you tackle those themes effectively?

If you're trying to attach absolute statements to this (or nearly anything), you're going to find yourself up to an impossible task.
In any art form, however lowbrow or highbrow, there's no such thing as "Should." There is only "Can."
Can a vore story carry more significance? Sure. It doesn't have to, but it can. Even if the stories aren't didactic, there will generally be room, especially in a well-written story, for interpretation. If a writer is trying to embed an argument in there, it's a matter of whether or not they can pull it off.

Personally, I write stories where Vore represents the Id's commandeering of the Ego, the instinctual superseding the civilized aspects of the self. Women are empowered by the violence of vore, exploring both control over the world around them and self-acceptance.
But really I'm just writing smut. The fact that these and any other themes come up is just that vore is my outlet for exploring these topics, regardless of whether the reader finds a message in there.

Try to remember that nobody grows up dreaming of being a high school English teacher.

sevensix wrote:Try to remember that nobody grows up dreaming of being a high school English teacher.

What do you mean by that?

SamuelOrona wrote:What do you mean by that?

You're not exactly getting the divine wisdom of the masters there.

sevensix wrote:

SamuelOrona wrote:What do you mean by that?

You're not exactly getting the divine wisdom of the masters there.

And you're not really adding any wisdom. The question wasnt if people wanted to become English teachers, but if there should/is a need for a deeper message in Giantess stories (or vore stories in general I suppose.)

Regarding the question, it really depends on the story itself. Sometimes, people might want to build a character out of the giantess, or the prey, and thus having a theme could help, but if one just want to make a short story
of a giantess eating some prey and nothing more, then that's that.
Ultimatly, it depends on the writer and what they want out of the story they are writing. Not all stories need a message, but if one wants more depth to it, then a message helps.

Nekiame wrote: The question wasnt if people wanted to become English teachers, but if there should/is a need for a deeper message in Giantess stories (or vore stories in general I suppose.)

Which there's doubt about because of something a high-school teacher said. Are you offended on behalf of high-school teachers or something?

sevensix wrote:

Nekiame wrote: The question wasnt if people wanted to become English teachers, but if there should/is a need for a deeper message in Giantess stories (or vore stories in general I suppose.)

Which there's doubt about because of something a high-school teacher said. Are you offended on behalf of high-school teachers or something?

Not quite sure what you're going for...
Even if high school English teachers being unable to possess or pass on any wisdom was a valid point (it's not), the teacher wasn't being insightful when they taught this. A theme is an underlying message of a story. They teach that at the college level as well; that's English 101.

A common theme in stories are the "oh shit, we meddled with science without the necessary precautions".

Bright wrote:A common theme in stories are the "oh shit, we meddled with science without the necessary precautions".

That’s a good observation. The song “Godzilla” by Blue Oyster Cult deals with that theme.

Personally if any stories like that have messages in them I rather them mostly just be simple ones that can have a fun or clever spin to them like ironic moments,twist endings or poetic justice rather than deeper themes such as the ones you mentioned.I do love a good story I just don't really go looking for one when I read giantess stories.

"The giantess eating people is a metaphor for capitalism."

Pretty sure a few people have explained this well enough, but I'll say my version here: Whether it "Should" or "Should not" is irrelevant. And that goes for ALL smut, including vore stories, and not just the Giantess ones. Besides, it wouldn't take much thought for one to create a theme, message, analogy or what have you, and even if you didn't, the reader may end up seeing one themselves.

At the end of the day, just do what you like. Someone, somewhere, will enjoy reading whatever you create, message or not.

13master13 wrote:A theme is an underlying message of a story. They teach that at the college level as well; that's English 101.

Then why are they different words?

Thatonepred wrote:At the end of the day, just do what you like. Someone, somewhere, will enjoy reading whatever you create, message or not.

I can't guarantee that. There aren't many, if any, people who look at every new story posted; and some "stories" are really bad.