Dragon or human preds, let's settle this once and for all

[MrGrimlock]

If we're talking something along the lines of a manakete (essentially "shifter" characters who appear human, but can change between a human and dragon form at will. Think of Tiki or Corrin (preferably Male Corrin) from the Fire Emblem series, for example.), or perhaps a half-dragon such as this: https://aryion.com/g4/view/521415 , then we can talk.

A straight-up feral dragon/wyvern, no thanks. A predator has to have some form of resemblence to a human before I'll take it, otherwise interest is dropped.

[Kitsouille]

Who in their right mind thinks, that humans are better preds then dragons? That's just all kinds of wrong.

Also remember kids: just because the majority agrees on something, dosn't mean the majority can't be wrong.

I dunno, every time there's a thread "which is more popular" or "which is better", the two get mixed up. You can't convince someone his preferences are wrong but technically dragons are much more efficient predators.

I agree to what people say but I think Justin just picked the wrong words and it sounds worst than the way he meant. He often does it and I don't think he aims to displease. At least I give him the benefit of doubt on that. Justin's threads being sometime repetitive and subjectively cringy is just something you get used to and you can't change anyone. Seeing people criticizing his threads is more tedious though, because yeah what did you expect?

[NyaatoShiroi]

I am prefer human, but ANY species may good for its own.

[JettCabino]

I would be food for either, but dragon just seems like the option I'd want. And knights make amazing preds, too, but for other humans. I like humans eating dragons, but I would rather be knight and dragon food over and over as a magic user, never stopping until they are fat or bloated with my nasty slurry to absolute stuffed status on the daily.

[IvesBentonEaton]

Dragons generally need less "prep work": a dragon, being largely a fantasy creature, can be of any size, and there are plenty of reptiles on Earth that swallow prey whole to use as a model.

Humans swallowing each other whole needs a lot of prep work: a typical adult human stomach can hold about four liters; a typical human has a volume of, say, 62 liters. Then there is the problem of getting a human down another's throat: a human esophagus is only three-quarters of an inch in diameter, and it can't stretch that far without rupturing, never mind the problems of the jugular and carotid arteries snapping, the jaw and spine breaking, and all that sort of fun stuff. This is usually when shrinking, enlargement, or flexibility magic (or technology so advanced as to be indistinguishable from magic, as per Clarke's Third Law) must be called upon.

Even this doesn't solve all the problems: to shrink a human to a size another human can swallow either (a) increases the density to indigestibility (a six foot-tall human reduced to six inches but retaining a 150 pound mass would 1,728 times as dense; that would be a density of over 86 times that of gold, never mind the chemical, molecular, and atomic changes may make it impossible for the gastric juices to function properly) or (b) the weight would scale to match, which would make a six-inch human weigh well under a pound, at which point the sharply reduced number of neuron connections in the vastly reduced brain would leave him or her non-sentient and arguably no longer human). So more magic is needed. (My apologies for mixing metric and English measurement systems here.)

Indigestibility rears its ugly head in another way for human-on-human "soft" vore: human digestion relies heavily on chewing to pre-process the food. Even with snakes, the go-to for swallowing creatures whole, it is possible for a snake to swallow a meal too large for it: its meal rots before it digests, killing the snake. This is will certainly happen in human-on-human soft vore even allowing for the flexibility to swallow and contain another human.

That's a lot of hand-waving. More magic. Where are my spellbooks? Where is my research library?

Interestingly enough, at least some editions of Dungeons and Dragons have most of the magic needed to do human-on-human vore built into the game if you stack the spells just right. When writing stories that use that magic system as its basis, I add a few extra spells to make it work the way I want it to, but even the Player's Handbook usually has everything needed to manage the swallowing in some manner.

Digestion, though…that needs new spells.

Then, of course, if one is writing a proper story, one wants to come up with a social "reason" for human-on-human soft vore. It certainly can't be for the nutrition: even assuming a post-apocalyptic environment, there are way easier ways for people to eat. Better dust off those thinking caps!

If it seems like I'm poo-pooing (sorry) the idea, remember that I, too, indulge in this fetish. I don't regard these as limitations; I treat them as challenges.

Many things in human life turn out to be fantasy; vore, especially human-on-human same-size vore, is almost 100% fantasy.

And that's all right.

[GREGOLE]

Refraining from trying to rationalize whose fetishes are the best is my fetish.

Who in their right mind thinks, that humans are better preds then dragons? That's just all kinds of wrong.

Also remember kids: just because the majority agrees on something, dosn't mean the majority can't be wrong.

I was worried that this thread might not have any of this kind of obnoxiousness in it, so thanks for assuaging my fears.

[AzurePheonix]

Here's a compromise. Reptile humanoids with anatomies built for consuming large, live prey whole.

[BlackWidow552]

I'm going to have to go with the Both option, along with snakes, aliens (of all descriptions) Demons, frogs, plants, worms, slimes, dinosaurs, whales, sharks, and magical creatures still to be described. I even like toys such as teddy bears that grow to enormous size and eat their owner.

So pretty much anything capable of eating a human, including humans.

[Questi0nablyFalse]

Broke: Claiming to "settle" a fetish through a single poll on eka's.
Dope: Liking what you like and not telling anyone else what they should or shouldn't like as long as they aren't hurting anyone IRL with it
Woke: tiny human eating mega dragon

This is the only correct opinion in the end.

For real though everyone has their preferences and it's not like it's a competition between pred types lol. It just so happens that micro preds are fucking perfect though.

[thirdaltaccount]

Dragons generally need less "prep work": a dragon, being largely a fantasy creature, can be of any size, and there are plenty of reptiles on Earth that swallow prey whole to use as a model.

Jesus, and I thought I was insane for doing the logistics on vore. Go off, I guess. This is a whole level beyond what I usually do. I get big species that can reasonably swallow something or I get straight magic, and then try to figure out the intricacies of day-to-day life given the circumstances - but I've never dabbled in the quantum physics implications of vore. At most a body size and heating issue. I guess this is a good demonstration of why this is purely fantasy.

[ClarAya]

For those who may not know here, there's a manga called Seidon No Ryuu that tackles the idea of Dragon/Human preds

[ClarAya]

Here are some images of the manga

[IvesBentonEaton]

Dragons generally need less "prep work": a dragon, being largely a fantasy creature, can be of any size, and there are plenty of reptiles on Earth that swallow prey whole to use as a model.

Jesus, and I thought I was insane for doing the logistics on vore. Go off, I guess. This is a whole level beyond what I usually do. I get big species that can reasonably swallow something or I get straight magic, and then try to figure out the intricacies of day-to-day life given the circumstances - but I've never dabbled in the quantum physics implications of vore. At most a body size and heating issue. I guess this is a good demonstration of why this is purely fantasy.

No matter how crazy you are, there is someone crazier.

Mind you, the setting in which I write vore stories has both dragons swallowing humans and humans swallowing each other, but the latter is far less common as it requires considerable magic for the predator to even survive it, much less do it. In such cases, because of certain magic, it is actually easier to do non-fatal vore by means of magic that simulates digestion; the predator human is more likely to survive his or her dietary choice.

As for dragons in the world of Āen, there is this quote by Felciti Faranal, a loremaster and drakōnologist (a specialist in the knowledge of dragons), that prefaces “A Study of Dragons”, a story in my gallery here on Eka’s:

Given that dragons may have been magically constructed in the distant past for the titanic wars whose histories are now but dim echoes, it only makes sense that they would be made as terrible as possible. Such creatures would naturally be made to regard humans as food, for how else could such huge beasts be kept fed in the field but on the bodies of foes?