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I was surprised
I have to admit, before getting really involved in this site, I imagined that the vast majority of people who had this fetish were male... I ended up being MOSTLY right about that, but there is still a very respectable amount of females who seem to be into vore, at least going by what I have seen here so far.
I of course have no way of actually confirming if all the people on here that say they are female are telling the truth, but it does not really matter anyway so I will take them at their word.
I do not mean to sound disrespectful, but was anyone else surprised by just how many women were actually into vore? I mean it is typically assumed by most average people that guys are the ones that like all the kinky stuff, so it was a real eye opener for me is all.
I of course have no way of actually confirming if all the people on here that say they are female are telling the truth, but it does not really matter anyway so I will take them at their word.
I do not mean to sound disrespectful, but was anyone else surprised by just how many women were actually into vore? I mean it is typically assumed by most average people that guys are the ones that like all the kinky stuff, so it was a real eye opener for me is all.
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157and493 - Participator
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Re: I was surprised
I feel like just as many women have fetishes as men. We just aren't as open about it.
Partly because it's a bit less socially acceptable for women to be into weird things, and partly because you attract a ton of unwanted attention if you're open about these things.
It's like the video game industry. There's nothing innately masculine about the concept of a video game, but its very much a male-dominated area. This is mainly because a lot of games assume their audience will be male, and so cater to male-specific desires. The lack of female-focused games makes women not want to play games, and the cycle continues.
Both video games and porn are less socially acceptable for women to partake in, and both can have a fairly hostile environment for women. In both porn sites and online gaming communities, being openly female can attract a lot of unwanted attention (although Eka's is pretty good in this regard).
Just as many women might be into vore as men, they might never discover their love of it, or a community like this because they might feel it's not 'for' them, or that its not appropriate for them to be into it, or they might assume any such environment would be hostile for them.
I could very well be wrong though. Maybe men are more likely to develop a fetish than women. I don't know why that would be the case, but we understand so little about how these things develop at all.
It would be interesting to get like a big national survey of fetishes. See what percent of the population has an unconventional fetish at all, and see if there's a gender bias. Too bad there's no chance of that happening...
Partly because it's a bit less socially acceptable for women to be into weird things, and partly because you attract a ton of unwanted attention if you're open about these things.
It's like the video game industry. There's nothing innately masculine about the concept of a video game, but its very much a male-dominated area. This is mainly because a lot of games assume their audience will be male, and so cater to male-specific desires. The lack of female-focused games makes women not want to play games, and the cycle continues.
Both video games and porn are less socially acceptable for women to partake in, and both can have a fairly hostile environment for women. In both porn sites and online gaming communities, being openly female can attract a lot of unwanted attention (although Eka's is pretty good in this regard).
Just as many women might be into vore as men, they might never discover their love of it, or a community like this because they might feel it's not 'for' them, or that its not appropriate for them to be into it, or they might assume any such environment would be hostile for them.
I could very well be wrong though. Maybe men are more likely to develop a fetish than women. I don't know why that would be the case, but we understand so little about how these things develop at all.
It would be interesting to get like a big national survey of fetishes. See what percent of the population has an unconventional fetish at all, and see if there's a gender bias. Too bad there's no chance of that happening...
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Re: I was surprised
50 Shades of Gray is a best seller. That should be all the confirmation you need that lots of women have fetishes. Men just tend to get their sexual fantasy fixes from technology, and women tend to dominate the erotic novel market. Obviously there's a good chunk of overlap, but those are the trends.
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Re: I was surprised
To be completely honest with you, I very nearly left the fetish almost as soon as I dipped my feet into it. I've never had any problem being upfront about my gender---however, a lot of the community here was not as welcoming and open-minded toward certain women who did not share the more universally-embraced preferences. I know some fellow ladies who left entirely because they could not put up with it.
I had several bad experiences for quite some time. I did not feel very welcome. Some of those in this predominantly-male fetish expressed distaste toward me because of one simple thing: I did not associate myself with or as a female pred, nor liked them in vore, personally. And I happened to be straight and into male preds.
Despite my better judgment at the time, I decided to persist anyway. And in doing so, I have probably met and befriended far more fellow females than males here. We certainly exist and while I doubt it's anywhere near the amount of males involved in the fetish/kink, there are reasons that have already been mentioned as to why there are large scale differences in the gender balance.
As a straight female who was formerly Observer (now relating further to the prey side) coming into this fetish was overwhelming due to the sheer amount of content that did not appeal to me---content that is more geared to appeal to a generally-straight male crowd: endless art, writing, and creations of extremely sexualized females, etc. With the Male Gaze trope very much in effect here, for a long while, it was hard to feel like I had a place here. But instead, I made one for myself.
And as was mentioned above, women tend to hide or otherwise suppress sexual desires and fetishes more than men. We have grown up with the stigma that being open about sexual things or having weird fantasies/fetishes or even dressing certain ways makes us "sluts", "whores", and other unappealing terms. There's actually a fantastic post that explores this concept that I can share for perspective (it always makes me feel a little better about the sort of things I'm into/have interest in when it comes to fetishes and kinks, as a female): https://croquettish.tumblr.com/post/179 ... or-in-this --- It's a great thread about women and sexual fantasies.
Anyway, as I have learned throughout the five years that I have been here, a lot of gals are shy about these interests for some of the above reasons. I tend to be loud about it in efforts to encourage others to embrace what they like, which I don't regret. I ended up being that way from the start. And since then? A lot of things have changed or begun to change in positive directions from the time when I first joined and accepted my fetish interests. And I hope that more women will come to terms with it and embrace what they enjoy, regardless of preferences. Whether you're a creator or very outspoken about it, or a lurker and more on the quiet side---there's a place for everyone.
I also don't at all blame those who want to keep their gender a secret or not be upfront about it either, though. There are many people here that will prioritize just that about someone. And it can often be a potentially unpleasant experience, especially given the sheer number in the male community here. Being outspoken about being female in this fetish can often draw a lot of attention. I can fully understand why many are not comfortable being open about it.
I had several bad experiences for quite some time. I did not feel very welcome. Some of those in this predominantly-male fetish expressed distaste toward me because of one simple thing: I did not associate myself with or as a female pred, nor liked them in vore, personally. And I happened to be straight and into male preds.
Despite my better judgment at the time, I decided to persist anyway. And in doing so, I have probably met and befriended far more fellow females than males here. We certainly exist and while I doubt it's anywhere near the amount of males involved in the fetish/kink, there are reasons that have already been mentioned as to why there are large scale differences in the gender balance.
As a straight female who was formerly Observer (now relating further to the prey side) coming into this fetish was overwhelming due to the sheer amount of content that did not appeal to me---content that is more geared to appeal to a generally-straight male crowd: endless art, writing, and creations of extremely sexualized females, etc. With the Male Gaze trope very much in effect here, for a long while, it was hard to feel like I had a place here. But instead, I made one for myself.
And as was mentioned above, women tend to hide or otherwise suppress sexual desires and fetishes more than men. We have grown up with the stigma that being open about sexual things or having weird fantasies/fetishes or even dressing certain ways makes us "sluts", "whores", and other unappealing terms. There's actually a fantastic post that explores this concept that I can share for perspective (it always makes me feel a little better about the sort of things I'm into/have interest in when it comes to fetishes and kinks, as a female): https://croquettish.tumblr.com/post/179 ... or-in-this --- It's a great thread about women and sexual fantasies.
Anyway, as I have learned throughout the five years that I have been here, a lot of gals are shy about these interests for some of the above reasons. I tend to be loud about it in efforts to encourage others to embrace what they like, which I don't regret. I ended up being that way from the start. And since then? A lot of things have changed or begun to change in positive directions from the time when I first joined and accepted my fetish interests. And I hope that more women will come to terms with it and embrace what they enjoy, regardless of preferences. Whether you're a creator or very outspoken about it, or a lurker and more on the quiet side---there's a place for everyone.
I also don't at all blame those who want to keep their gender a secret or not be upfront about it either, though. There are many people here that will prioritize just that about someone. And it can often be a potentially unpleasant experience, especially given the sheer number in the male community here. Being outspoken about being female in this fetish can often draw a lot of attention. I can fully understand why many are not comfortable being open about it.
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Re: I was surprised
I was more surprised that there are a lot of transgender members here.Just something I was not really aware of back when I only lurked here for the art and stories and didn't really read the topics.
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cranberryknights1 - Participator
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Re: I was surprised
cranberryknights1 wrote:I was more surprised that there are a lot of transgender members here.Just something I was not really aware of back when I only lurked here for the art and stories and didn't really read the topics.
Surprisingly most of the vore fans I've met in real life or non-vore-related online communities have been trans. I guess we're more likely not to give a shit about what society thinks of our kinks since we're already going against so many societal expectations. But maybe there's something more to it, who knows.
AlisaBlueBird wrote:I feel like just as many women have fetishes as men. We just aren't as open about it.
Partly because it's a bit less socially acceptable for women to be into weird things, and partly because you attract a ton of unwanted attention if you're open about these things.
This is purely anecdotal, but transitioning has definitely massively changed my relationship with my fetishes. Back when I was full of testosterone I was a lot more focused on them in very specific ways that were wrapped up in my identity, but nowadays they feel a lot more fluid and dependent on my mood. I've heard other transfeminine folks say similar things as well--it's incredibly common for example for crossdressing fetishes to all but disappear as a result of transitioning, and this kind of makes sense since you're desensitizing yourself in a way. But hormones are weird and honestly I do have to assume there's something about testosterone that's more likely to affect a person's overall sexuality, fetishes included.
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yetra - Been posting for a bit
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Re: I was surprised
No. Female do have kinks. But we are often overseen/or people assume we don't get horny? It's rather strange if you ask me.
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Re: I was surprised
I was unaware that women can be just as perverted as men until I met my second girlfriend. So no, I wasn't surprised to see women here as well.
I don't understand what you are surprised about, though; you expected to see mostly men here, and found mostly men.
As a general rule, the more you go to the extremes the more men you'll find. While women dominate "tame" fetishes such as lesbian, gay, threesomes or rape men dominate "hardcore" ones such as beastialiy or vote.
I don't understand what you are surprised about, though; you expected to see mostly men here, and found mostly men.
As a general rule, the more you go to the extremes the more men you'll find. While women dominate "tame" fetishes such as lesbian, gay, threesomes or rape men dominate "hardcore" ones such as beastialiy or vote.
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Someone92 - Intermediate Vorarephile
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Re: I was surprised
I was surprised that a place like this actually existed (though the recent server move-then-replacement tells me that there's a reason why places like this are not that common in terms of high-quality standards).
I mean, sure, I'm unique in a good portion of my own kinks, desires and such, but I wasn't surprised at the number of this or that gender since I really didn't know what to expect. I'm open about a lot of things, just that no one is listening for the most part (offline I mean).
Most of those I've done RPs with are transgirls, bigender or otherwise feminine. Actually, that covers all of them, lol
Most of my OCs are the same; transgirls, bigender or otherwise feminine.
But I never expected anything...
Except to be swallowed at some point, lol
I mean, sure, I'm unique in a good portion of my own kinks, desires and such, but I wasn't surprised at the number of this or that gender since I really didn't know what to expect. I'm open about a lot of things, just that no one is listening for the most part (offline I mean).
Most of those I've done RPs with are transgirls, bigender or otherwise feminine. Actually, that covers all of them, lol
Most of my OCs are the same; transgirls, bigender or otherwise feminine.
But I never expected anything...
Except to be swallowed at some point, lol
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Re: I was surprised
I'm gonna one up everyone and say I was surprised to discover I wasn't the only person in the world with this weird fantasy. Cause holy beans this one's a doozy.
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Re: I was surprised
fixated1 wrote:I'm gonna one up everyone and say I was surprised to discover I wasn't the only person in the world with this weird fantasy. Cause holy beans this one's a doozy.
You and nine hundred and ninety of a thousand people that discover the exact same thing, lol
(Yeah, I'm right there with ya on that)
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Re: I was surprised
Chameleonette wrote:As a straight female who was formerly Observer (now relating further to the prey side) coming into this fetish was overwhelming due to the sheer amount of content that did not appeal to me---content that is more geared to appeal to a generally-straight male crowd: endless art, writing, and creations of extremely sexualized females, etc. With the Male Gaze trope very much in effect here, for a long while, it was hard to feel like I had a place here. But instead, I made one for myself.
It sucks that you had such bad experiences in the vore community, but I'm glad you were able to carve out a place in the community for yourself. I agree, the majority of vore content is geared toward straight men, particularly those in the prey role. It's really hard to find good quality vore stuff of any other kind. But as you're aware, it DOES exist, you just have to look for it.
Sexual spaces are often dominated by men, so it's hard to tally how many women are into any given fetish or sexual interest. Personally I think that more women would like vore if they felt safe expressing their interest in it. Or maybe they DO like it, but they don't know that there are communities centered around vore. It's just a matter of connecting with others who have shared interests, but in terms of sexuality, that's harder for women to do, simply because of societal expectations.
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Re: I was surprised
157and493 wrote:I have to admit, before getting really involved in this site, I imagined that the vast majority of people who had this fetish were male... I ended up being MOSTLY right about that, but there is still a very respectable amount of females who seem to be into vore, at least going by what I have seen here so far.
I of course have no way of actually confirming if all the people on here that say they are female are telling the truth, but it does not really matter anyway so I will take them at their word.
I do not mean to sound disrespectful, but was anyone else surprised by just how many women were actually into vore? I mean it is typically assumed by most average people that guys are the ones that like all the kinky stuff, so it was a real eye opener for me is all.
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This is the biggest on-site poll I could find and lists the gender ratio at 80/20 male/female, so... technically "vast majority" is an accurate description. ||D But then, "respectable" isn't inaccurate either. So hey! As a girl, I was... not 'surprised'. I mean, 20% of the community or even 30%, as some smaller and debatably less accurate polls as a result polls said, isn't exactly much. ||D So, knowing that I existed it wasn't hard for me to imagine other girls who liked vore existed too. I wouldn't say I was surprised it was more popular with boys either. To put it bluntly, my extremely bad experiences with boys growing up colored my views of them a bit. That's not something I'm proud of, but it's probably the reason I wasn't surprised. Couldn't tell you why it actually is more popular with boys though. I could think of several explanations, but I have no idea how you'd test any of them to see which is more truthful.
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Artemis - Advanced Vorarephile
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Re: I was surprised
From what I understand a lot of ladies do like to hide the fact that they are ladies. This is gonna be a rare thing for me to say in the open but I am a lady and I tend to hide that fact or just not openly express that. Mostly because from my experience and the experience of a few other ladies I've talked to, we tend to get unwanted attention. I've gotten creepy comments and notes and a bunch of straight dudes think that its cool to just start chating me up with pretty sexually explicit things about female anatomy like I totally want to hear that.
(Also to put into perspective that women might not be open about their fetish, during a few cons I went to two different vore parties. At one I was the sole female and at the other I was one of two women. It was very much a massive sausage party.)
(Also to put into perspective that women might not be open about their fetish, during a few cons I went to two different vore parties. At one I was the sole female and at the other I was one of two women. It was very much a massive sausage party.)
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Re: I was surprised
AlisaBlueBird wrote:Maybe men are more likely to develop a fetish than women
I don't know how up to date the science is, but this tends to be the case with paraphilia. Virtually all women are found to develop aorgasmia in cases where a man may develop a paraphilia instead (for example, after a sexually abusive childhood)
I don't really know how to draw the line between paraphilia and fetishes, but clearly women have fetishes. Men and women are fundamentally different sexually, I don't think this is fully understood yet. The best example is that women are multiorgasmic whereas men are not.
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Re: I was surprised
157and493 wrote:I do not mean to sound disrespectful, but was anyone else surprised by just how many women were actually into vore? I mean it is typically assumed by most average people that guys are the ones that like all the kinky stuff, so it was a real eye opener for me is all.
I'm a woman, and I was surprised by how many women are here... so yes.
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EnderDracolich - Advanced Vorarephile
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Re: I was surprised
yetra wrote:cranberryknights1 wrote:I was more surprised that there are a lot of transgender members here.Just something I was not really aware of back when I only lurked here for the art and stories and didn't really read the topics.
Surprisingly most of the vore fans I've met in real life or non-vore-related online communities have been trans. I guess we're more likely not to give a shit about what society thinks of our kinks since we're already going against so many societal expectations. But maybe there's something more to it, who knows.
Same. It's weird and a bit off-putting for me, to think my fetish my have something to do with the fact I'm trans. (I am trans, in case anyone misreads this comment).
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Re: I was surprised
AlisaBlueBird wrote:I feel like just as many women have fetishes as men. We just aren't as open about it.
Partly because it's a bit less socially acceptable for women to be into weird things, and partly because you attract a ton of unwanted attention if you're open about these things.
It's like the video game industry. There's nothing innately masculine about the concept of a video game, but its very much a male-dominated area. This is mainly because a lot of games assume their audience will be male, and so cater to male-specific desires. The lack of female-focused games makes women not want to play games, and the cycle continues.
Both video games and porn are less socially acceptable for women to partake in, and both can have a fairly hostile environment for women. In both porn sites and online gaming communities, being openly female can attract a lot of unwanted attention (although Eka's is pretty good in this regard).
Just as many women might be into vore as men, they might never discover their love of it, or a community like this because they might feel it's not 'for' them, or that its not appropriate for them to be into it, or they might assume any such environment would be hostile for them.
I could very well be wrong though. Maybe men are more likely to develop a fetish than women. I don't know why that would be the case, but we understand so little about how these things develop at all.
It would be interesting to get like a big national survey of fetishes. See what percent of the population has an unconventional fetish at all, and see if there's a gender bias. Too bad there's no chance of that happening...
I'm convinced that men are more likely to develop a fetish, but I also totally agree that anything sexual is a hostile environment for women. Obviously fetishes aren't custom-tailored like games, but guys are being aggressively sexual to women on LinkedIn, so a situation where arousal is, if not a given, very common...
That aside, I'm sure the rates of what we see for everyone are pretty different from who actually has fetishes. I'm still pretty shy about being into vore, myself.
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Birichino - Advanced Vorarephile
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Re: I was surprised
I don't think the fetish itself or any "social norms" are causing women to be left out. Most people in these communities tend to be male, this is true for almost any community on the internet.
If you were to accurately get samples IRL, no doubt the gender ratio would be very close to 1:1.
I haven't noticed a higher concentration of women on here than anywhere else, to be honest.
If you were to accurately get samples IRL, no doubt the gender ratio would be very close to 1:1.
I haven't noticed a higher concentration of women on here than anywhere else, to be honest.
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