Unpopular Vore Opinions.

[lemonayed]

Interesting...

I'd like to preface that I'm not a complete voreaphile, I'm rather vanilla.

Case in point, I don't really care for internal parts of vore. I'm just interested in the belly, haha.... (swallowing is good, too.)

There are many other sub-sections of vore that I don't really care about, like scat, flatulence, macro/micro but I read them regardless out of morbid curiosity of discovering what makes people attracted to it. I think discovering other people's niches are fun and even if I don't care about them, I don't go out of my way to say "I don't like this". I think some parts of this thread kind of go off the rails ends up bashing other people's tastes... I guess it's naïve of me to believe a community that has been shamed by outsiders wouldn't have people shame each other within it.

....Eh, I'll see myself out.

[Trajan]

everywhere i go people tell me that fish are prey and not predators except for sharks.

how did this get so ingrained into our culture? there are tons of predatory fish.
tuna eat crabs for example.
piranha are well known for rendering animals to the bone.
there are tiny tropical fish that even kill and eat sharks.
fish are not weak by default, there's a huge variety.

iirc the majority of fish species are indeed predatory.

Also agreed with IddleItaler on the pleasurable digestion thing. Knowing you should be fearing for your life but instead enjoying it is indeed quite a scary proposal.

[Vorologist]

Vore being sexualized in any capacity makes me IMMENSELY uncomfortable. I often lose my ability to even eat food for an hour or more whenever I see it referred to in a sexual context. I understand that this might seem baffling to other people here, cause it seems I’m clearly in the minority, but even joining this website feels like some sort of exposure therapy for me.

I just want a place where I can enjoy vore without worrying about being exposed to sexual content or creeps. I’m an adult, so I’m uncomfortable interacting with content perceived as sexual with younger people, but I have cognitive issues that make it feel like I’m getting groomed if I ever interact with adults in a vore-related context because I cannot trust their intentions.

Vore is just an over exaggerated hug for me and that’s all I want it to be

[Vorologist]

I'm most likely to be a nonsexual vore artist(even though I draw&write digestion), so when someone ask me if I can add sexual traits to the character, or character swallowing another character through their genitals/anus, or make me draw full tour/disposal/scat & pee got me really uncomfortable( seeing fav character as pred but contains these would still make me uncomfortable), I would refuse directly if they are asking me to draw, no beggings, I won't accept.
[vore] in my dictionary is equivalent to 'predation but swallowing prey whole(and alive most of the time)', so fatal vore pred and prey in my art are usually enemies or strangers who don't know each other. Digesting a friend without their aggrement seems terrible to me, because this--from my point of view-- show disrespectfulness to their friend .

I agree with this 100%
I don’t mind digestion, but it’s more as a consequence of eating/getting eaten and not appealing to me. If I’m getting eaten, I’d rather be safe and unharmed

[SigmaMare1337]

Perma vore as a way of retirement from vore art is kinda lame if you ask me.

[SigmaMare1337]

Making alternate endings to a story you didn't like without the author's permission is actually hella based and should be done more often.

[lutro]

Making alternate endings to a story you didn't like without the author's permission is actually hella based and should be done more often.

Reportable tbh.

Don't go against express wishes of authors, especially with their own characters. Not good medicine.

[SigmaMare1337]

Making alternate endings to a story you didn't like without the author's permission is actually hella based and should be done more often.

Reportable tbh.

Don't go against express wishes of authors, especially with their own characters. Not good medicine.

Just don't post then on Aryion smh
Jk
But you could just keep it to yourself as a small win.

[SigmaMare1337]

Perma vored characters are public domain since the original creator obviously isn't using them anymore.

You can't DMCA someone over something you outright discarded.

[lutro]

Perma vored characters are public domain since the original creator obviously isn't using them anymore.

You can't DMCA someone over something you outright discarded.

Not really true, any more than an artist or author who says 'my character should not be put in XYZ siutation' should have their characters put in that situation by other people.

"But they're canonically gone and the artist/author perma'd them and doesn't use them anymore!" Still their characters. Who you don't use without permission. Nobody's going to DMCA you, but you will come off as a tool for going against an artist/author's wishes about their own characters.

[Vorologist]

Perma vored characters are public domain since the original creator obviously isn't using them anymore.

You can't DMCA someone over something you outright discarded.

this is not even remotely close to how copyright law works. Do not do this

[Jihhh]

Let's be real, it's just an honor system in practice and the character owner in practice can break off the "perma" if they really wanted to. Yeah the other person may block them or whatever but they can't really do much outside complaining to a hug box about it. Similar with third parties, nothing you can actually do about it beyond saying anyone else who draws the OC after the perma is doing non-canon AU stuff with them. But I tend to think the whole idea of owning a species to be a kind of slavery to begin with so I'm just non-complaint with that whole subculture in general. Mind I would probably bitch or tell someone how other members of said species would likely view them if I felt someone made a lame trope with a species I had but I'd just see that OC as "a lame member of that species I have" like how there's humans who go do stupid stuff and others who are smart. Lutro can tell people not to do something but they can't actually make anyone do shit. I don't think they got permission from gamefreak to make Lutro the Buizel's Belly Adventures but here they are.

That being said, much of this comes from how I just don't see how it's any different than drawing fan art
That other person only ever can do AU with them in practice, the canonicity is controlled by the creator. Anyone else using that character just is doing fan art of the character.

[Squidia]

If the best argument for doing something is "it's not technically illegal" then I feel one should really evaluate whether or not they should do it.

[Jihhh]

Endosoma is more deviant than most kinds of vore as it basically deviates from the "intended" role of the gut and this is a good thing as it means I have a deeper taboo, which makes it hotter. For me fatal is too banal and I see no intimacy in it so it isn't a "oh they like it cuddly" thing.
As I mean a very voyeuristic, anatomy fixated kind of endosoma where internal body exploration past the stomach is common.

[DoctorHver]

More vore scenes need to be allowed to fail, be it the pred choking, prey fighting back well enough from within to escape (if not even sooner!), or some outside help stops them and is able to get the prey out in time.

Only time i have seen vore fail are in the old Norway fairy tales such as the story "The Cat who could eat so much" or Three Little Goats by Peter Christen Asbjørnsen and Jørgen Moe. In both cases vore fails before hand or after the pred has had success once the big goat is introduced to the pred as it attack the pred before the pred gets the cange to eat. I think many other scandinavian and nordic contries have their own fairy tales that variation of this plotline. I never reacall seeing story or comic posted on Eka that has this type of plotline. I.e the fatality is not for the prey but the pred. Just think of the "call an ambulance but not for me" meme

[DoctorHver]

Perma vored characters are public domain since the original creator obviously isn't using them anymore.

You can't DMCA someone over something you outright discarded.

Character names aren't copyrighted they are trademarked. While you could make make vore content with the erliest incranation of Mickey Mouse (1928-1929), you still cannot sell anyting related with the brand Mickey Mouse as that name is trademarked by Disney. Trademarks never runs out as long as its in active us.

So I have bad news to folks that have used and sold vore related art of trademarked characters. You are going to run into trouble sooner or later.

[IddlerItaler]

More vore scenes need to be allowed to fail, be it the pred choking, prey fighting back well enough from within to escape (if not even sooner!), or some outside help stops them and is able to get the prey out in time.

Only time i have seen vore fail are in the old Norway fairy tales such as the story "The Cat who could eat so much" or Three Little Goats by Peter Christen Asbjørnsen and Jørgen Moe. In both cases vore fails before hand or after the pred has had success once the big goat is introduced to the pred as it attack the pred before the pred gets the cange to eat. I think many other scandinavian and nordic contries have their own fairy tales that variation of this plotline. I never reacall seeing story or comic posted on Eka that has this type of plotline. I.e the fatality is not for the prey but the pred.

Oh, I can think of Pinocchio rescuing his dad from the Dogfish. Jonah and the Whale. The Woodsman cutting the Wolf's belly open to rescue Little Red Riding Hood. To be honest in mainstream culture non-fatal is nearly as common as fatal outcomes, if not more. I don't like to call it failed vore, since to me vore where the prey escapes or endures is just as good as vore that ends in the prey's digestion, but I guess from the pred's perspective it is a failure.

It's not unheard of for action heroes to get eaten by monsters only to slash or blast their way out. This story by Doku has it, if you don't mind the darkness. I've also written some of my prey OCs successfully struggling.

Just think of the "call an ambulance but not for me" meme

"Put the fatal tag! But not for me!"

[Vorologist]

I’m starting to find that the more attractive a pred is to me the less I want to see vore of them. I had to discontinue using an OC in vore scenarios because the fact I found her attractive was ruining the vore experience for me. It sucks because there are definitely scenarios I think would be fun with her but like. I would rather be eaten by someone I’m not attracted to. As soon as a pred gets flirty it ruins the whole experience. She can eat other people but stay the hell away from me.

I’d rather have a pred that keeps good company and has a comfortable belly than one that can’t let me enjoy the experience properly. As soon as things get suggestive at all I just get disgusted. It’s like if you went to a therapist and they tried to grope you.