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Rejnka wrote:

EmilyNidhoggr wrote:

ItsSongxing wrote:With this sort of practice, the only way to be sure is to google every single character and hope the Wiki is as thoroughly cited as the Type-Moon one, and nobody's going to bother doing that.

There is a simple solution- don't draw the characters at all.

There is nothing more degrading and pathetic than to make art of a corporate owned copyright protected character for free. All your hard work and care does is inflate the value, both material and spiritual, of a construct who is fundamentally an asset belonging to the enemy.

I would say that calling corporations "the enemy" is far more pathetic. If you're going to direct all your hatred towards someone who will never notice, at least direct it towards someone who deserves it. There are people commiting genocide at this very moment, and you're focusing on the people whose only crime is having too much money? I guess you can't be jealous of putting people in death camps.

You've read a comment on "corporations" as "people with too much money" and while they are often composed of such people, calling opposition to corporations as mere jealousy of their chief executives is reductive. The problem with big corporate entities is that they often garner so much wealth that they can often change the rules of wealth-earning (through lobbying or the simple exponential accumulation of capital) to deny other human individuals anything from a chance of upward mobility (such as the position of small business owners) to a dignified human existence (the normal of most working-class people) to a survivable situation at all (such as when corporate activities contaminate potable water sources or burn down forests or bulldoze populated slums). Corporate actors denying these things en masse for literally millions of people over decades of time is very much on the scale of, and usually symbiotic with, the atrocities perpetrated by political actors.

While there's a large scope to disagree with fanfiction and fanart of corporate works being more good than bad or vice versa, I don't think it's fundamentally flawed to say that the activity helps inflate the value of an asset controlled by the enemy.

Wh--

The problem with corporations isn't that you're giving them money. It's that not enough of that money is making it to the employees responsible for these products you're consuming. You're not fixing the problem or improving anyone's lives by not giving corporations money. That doesn't magically put money in the pockets of people who deserve it. If anything, abusing the victims of the system by telling them they're wrong to enjoy any of these products makes their lives worse.

Strive for more coherent activism. Plan a strike. Trash the company's reputation on Twitter, or whatever replaces Twitter if being bought out by an incompetent grifter goes poorly for them. Unionize. Don't rely on boycotts. Boycotts are so lazy and ineffective, I just listed tweeting from an actual armchair as an upgrade--on purpose. And lastly, and most importantly, make sure you're not mistreating the people you purport to serve the interests of. Anything less is fraudulent activism.

Eh, I feel like my unpopular opinions are kinda lame since I mostly stick to my own little thing, not to mention I barely post anyway, but here they are:

1. There's some subcategories/types of vore I used to dislike, but I've now grown a liking to and an appreciation for. Like for example: I used to throw micro/macro under the bus entirely, but then there's caveats to micro/macro I found myself liking a lot (example: micro pred/macro prey) and I've now become way more liking to that of cartoony vore bellies, as I won't lie, while I do like more tighter/realistic ones...They can be quite Doom Level Texture if not done right. And not even in a good way.

2. I like both fatal and non-fatal vore. And I don't really mind if the whole-person-devourment-fiasco is a commonplace occurance or a mortifying oddity...If it's a vore thing that suits my interest, I will like it.

3. Speaking of, I like worldbuilding in vore, even if it's small or whatever. Which is kinda weird on my end since I don't usually tend to go for fics, but hey. Anytime I'm not in stupid horny mode, and there's a pic that talks about the world the pic takes place in, I will appreciate it heavily. I like it when people have their own unique worlds where they put their story in.

4. I like making male pred content in one way or another, or at least I'd like to make more of both fanart and original art using my AU, but my vore art collection in my folder almost 90% consists of female preds. Not sure how that works but eh.

5. Sometimes the terminology is confusing. Like while I personally know that there is a difference between endo, safekeeping, and nonfatal...Trying to explain it to someone who isn't into vore (like my boyfriend or a friend from the groupchat) is about as easy as trying to find a needle in a haystack the size of Mount Everest. While that could be chalked up to 'well they're not really 'in' the community, so that's to be expected' but even I find it hard to actually differenciate, and I'm the one that's actually into it! Hence why I just used non-fatal w/ the second opinion.

lurknbite420 wrote:5. Sometimes the terminology is confusing. Like while I personally know that there is a difference between endo, safekeeping, and nonfatal...Trying to explain it to someone who isn't into vore (like my boyfriend or a friend from the groupchat) is about as easy as trying to find a needle in a haystack the size of Mount Everest. While that could be chalked up to 'well they're not really 'in' the community, so that's to be expected' but even I find it hard to actually differenciate, and I'm the one that's actually into it! Hence why I just used non-fatal w/ the second opinion.

I'm pretty sure endo and non-fatal are near-synonyms with different connotations, while I haven't heard safekeeping used before.

Rejnka wrote:

lurknbite420 wrote:5. Sometimes the terminology is confusing. Like while I personally know that there is a difference between endo, safekeeping, and nonfatal...Trying to explain it to someone who isn't into vore (like my boyfriend or a friend from the groupchat) is about as easy as trying to find a needle in a haystack the size of Mount Everest. While that could be chalked up to 'well they're not really 'in' the community, so that's to be expected' but even I find it hard to actually differenciate, and I'm the one that's actually into it! Hence why I just used non-fatal w/ the second opinion.

I'm pretty sure endo and non-fatal are near-synonyms with different connotations, while I haven't heard safekeeping used before.

Safekeeping is moreso a senario where a pred consumes a prey as a way to keep them safe. So basically just a situational variation to endo, I believe.

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But since this thread turned into turnoffs, lets go with some that may be unpopular based off the works i usually see here, but that i dont know if they're really unpopular.

- Human preds do nothing 99% of the time to me. In at least half of the cases they turn me off. Human-ish preds (like the ones in most of Karbo's artwork) are totally ok to me.
- Enormous breasts are an instant turnoff for me, and its an extremely common trope, that female preds have huge breasts that in any realistic situation would destroy their back.
- I am indifferent towards the predator gender, and while i lean towards male predators, I think female are okay. The whole hate against male preds that used to be prevalent some years ago, however, was one of the reasons that discouraged me from posting back then, even if I was never explicitly hit by it (likely because due to his long hair a lot of people thought my character was female). On that same note, while everyone have their tastes, the fact that human-only artwork is so prevalent here at times made me feel unwelcome. And the feeling came back now by reading this thread and seeing that a lot of people loathe what i love.
- Casual vore, the "grab and gulp" kind where the pred doesnt care or even think about it, is one of the most powerful kinds of vore to me.
- I'm not a fan of genitalia in vore art unless you're specifically going for a vore kind that uses it.
- Vore as a verb is absolutely okay, language evolves with use anyways.
- Gods/deities who can eat anything, anywhere or even everyone are good.

These are mine. If you disagree with them-- thats absolutely okay, you keep creating and giving the world the stuff you care about. Remember: Its okay to masturbate to your own stuff, as you know your tastes and quirks better than anybody else out there.

Humanoid manly male preds are hella underrated
Non fatal wholesome vore is also underrated
Robot preds (Transformers) are underrated

Zangoose wrote:-I don't care when people use vore as a verb. Is it silly and dumb? Yeah. Does it completely ruin my immersion and make me stop liking it? No.

I don't understand why "vore as a verb" bothers people? That is something I've always been confused by.

Zangoose wrote:-I absolutely hate "Only one sex can be pred" universes. You dislike male vore or female vore? That's fine. It's not everyone's cup of tea. But when it's legally or, god forbid, physically unallowed for one sex to be pred, it really steams my hams.

Oop, don't come to my page then because your hams would be burnt XD Male preds only here, females physically are not allowed to and cannot vore in my universe XD

ClassifiedPerson wrote:I don't understand why "vore as a verb" bothers people? That is something I've always been confused by.

Let me put it this way. Vore as a verb is a loaded word because it has sexual connotations that aren't present with the word "eat". And there are a lot of people, especially children, who either don't understand that or don't have the critical thinking skills to understand the difference. So you get like, 14 year olds that just learned what vore means and think the word is hilarious and self-deprecating cringe humor where people go "Lmao watch me vore this slice of pizza" or they point at like, Kirby and go "Lmao vore" and it's just painful. It's like those people who call short people in real life "loli" and "shota". Because that is also a horrible thing clueless people do for the exact same reasons. After a while you meet enough random unfunny people that essentially troll you by going "Lmao vore time and by that I mean brb dinner" that when someone wants to use it outside that context it just brings back frustrating memories and gets a sigh out of you.

Also it's worth noting that some people might consider it a yellow/red flag for "This is a kid pretending to be an adult" because of that association in their head.

vore as a verb is pretty cringe.
Most of the time the people who use it aren't into vore or at all affiliated with the community and just use it for shock value. I think this "appropriation" of the word erks people the wrong way and makes people feel very strongly about voicing their detest for the word.

Oooh I see I see, that makes sense now. I always thought it had to do with people thinking 'vore' isn't as much of a turn-on as 'gulp' or 'swallow' or some other word describing the act of consuming, but now that you both explain it, I can see the issue. I have found it a little cringe myself at times, but I never realized it ran that deep as a problem o.o

ClassifiedPerson wrote:I always thought it had to do with people thinking 'vore' isn't as much of a turn-on as 'gulp' or 'swallow' or some other word describing the act of consuming

I think that's a factor as well Like it wouldn't be much of a turn-on for someone to tell you they're going to "sex" you. Why convert a noun to a verb when a perfectly good verb ('fuck' or analogously, 'eat') already exists?
I'm not much bothered by it either. Seems silly to get worked up about it and it's a losing battle. A bit like furries trying to say it's a fandom not a fetish or telling people not to call women 'females'

ClassifiedPerson wrote:I don't understand why "vore as a verb" bothers people? That is something I've always been confused by.

Because some of us remember those halcyon days when Vore wasn't even an abbreviated noun used to describe endosomaphilia, much less an adjective or verb. It's jargon, and a noun at that. I believe some of us have an active dislike to watching, real time, the process of a jargon of a small population subset being converted into a common parlance term, particularly when they make a noun into a verb. It makes the writer in me not cringe, but seethe in irritation.

Its mere presence in a sentence tends to cause me to have a brief disconnect unless that one is an OOC prep sentence with an RP partner. And if it is ever used as a verb, I immediately draw an unpleasant opinion of that person, and lose about 50% of the willingness to write a collaborative scene with them.

Also, "vore" has the exact same number of syllables as "eat" so swapping one for the other doesn't actually do much. It doesn't humorously complicate things, but it's not any more casual either. Saying "I'm going to vore you" instead of "I'm going to eat you" doesn't make it any easier to say, but it also isn't any funnier. It's just weird and awkward.

As someone else pointed out, it's on the same level as saying "I'm going to sex you".

GREGOLE wrote:
As someone else pointed out, it's on the same level as saying "I'm going to sex you".

Well there IS that hit song by Color Me Badd "I wanna Sex you up!"

ReptileKing23 wrote:Well there IS that hit song by Color Me Badd "I wanna Sex you up!"

XD thank god that didn't catch on

Slimegirls are best as prey. I mean, think of how easy they fit in any orifice and how yummy they are~! Totally an underappreciated niche.

Kaa is a boring pred
Serleena is a boring pred
Snakes in general are boring as preds
Cell is a boring pred
Lady dimitrescu is a boring pred...
Regular human fem preds is boring...Extra boring points if they are sexualized/naked...


In my opinion that is.

Fight me

Whoever came up with the term "Object Vore" should be put in the village stocks. Come on, dude, that's just stuffing.

I also believe i that bishonen preds are much better than femboy preds, for whatever it's worth. Actually, in general, outright femboys are kind of overrated. I like a good twink as much as the rest of us, but it's nice when they're at least a little boyish, you know?

fieldmousse wrote:

ReptileKing23 wrote:Well there IS that hit song by Color Me Badd "I wanna Sex you up!"

XD thank god that didn't catch on

Hey it's a great song!