Community Alienation

[HowManyMoreTimes]

Hi everyone! These are some thoughts I've had for a while and wanted to share. Before I get started, please understand that this is NOT meant to kink shame anyone, it's just a discussion about the content in this community and how it affects everyone differently. It's also something that's bothering me that I would like to get off my chest, and I am genuinely curious if anyone else feels the same way.

Vore is generally defined as a kink for being eaten alive/swallowed whole, but to me the majority of "vore" content on this website is a mask for different kinks. It's giant/giantess, big belly/stuffing kink, and furry content that has a sprinkling of vore. I understand this, and I've certainly been involved in it: giant/giantess content is my favorite. It just feels like the content of "pred swallows prey" is being shaded out by other fetishes. I may be off, but that's how I've felt lately and I'm curious if other people feel the same way.

It's also distressing to me the amount of more "extreme" content I've seen on here lately. Lots of gore, underage/child porn indulgence, urine and fecal matter, and tons of fatality/death/snuff. It's not my place to judge, but this kind of content doesn't just "turn me off," it makes me feel ill. It's not a matter of preference, such as "I'm not a fan of frogs as predators, I'm a lizard-loving girl damnit." It's "this content is starting to cross lines I never wanted crossed and I'm deeply uncomfortable." I understand this is an abnormal fetish, but seeing extreme content constantly circulating in the community has pushed me to the point where I don't want to be a part of it anymore.

It's making conventional adult porn sites look brighter and brighter; at least when I visit conventional porn websites I'm not met with anything that sexualizes people and kids dying horribly. I've had a lot of death in my life, and I'm sensitive to it. Seeing it turned into a kink - especially a kink that once made me feel safe and happy - doesn't make me feel good. For me, it's a hard rule that death doesn't not mix with sex.

I'm not saying anyone should stop posting their interests, I'm just saying with snuff, gore, underage, and scat so heavily indulged here I personally don't feel a part of this community anymore. I need to go, and that's fine. Websites, media, interests, and people change all the time, and I'm not telling anyone to stop posting their content just to make me feel better. I just wanted to share my thoughts before I left and see if anyone felt similarly.

[Humbug]

Probably wise to leave if it's making you physically ill, yeah. Sorry you got to the point where you can't take such things anymore. I hope you can find a better mental place elsewhere.

[PhviMe]

I've had the same feeling before, I've definitely seen a lot of things here that I'd rather not have, and particularly some gore that deeply disturbed me and that's probably going to haunt the dark corners of my mind forever. I don't mean this to suggest that you should follow any course of action or that your analysis is right or wrong, I just want to share my similar experience.


I've left and come back a few times, and one of the indispensable things about Eka's (from my perspective) is that, even though my interests won't fit with like 98% of the community, the few lasting relationships I have in the vore community came from this site. There are a lot of things I'd rather not see, but I think there aren't many better places to find like-minded people. Maybe I'd relate it to meeting people at a concert? Like, I probably wouldn't get along with most of the people there, but if I do meet someone cool, we already know we have some similarities in music taste, and if it's a niche musician, that's a rare find.

In any case, by this point, I make *liberal* use of the tag blacklist, and *conservative* use of the watch list. I'd rather miss something I might potentially like half the time, than see anything that's going to scar me. Or anything that's going to annoy me. There are quite a few tags I avoid even though they might work most of the time, just because I know there are one or two people who use the tag all the time who are going to clog my feed. Definitely not a perfect system lol.

But in that way, I've avoided seeing anything awful for quite a while. I don't do dives in the library or through the forums, as I did when I first got here. And sometimes artists introduce me to other artists and the watch list grows steadily.


Anyway, like I said, just sharing my experience as, when I read your post, I remember having that kind of feeling a while ago. I completely understand your position, and that may be the best choice. I hope your journey through this corner of the world becomes brighter.

[PastarinoDongarino]

As someone who likes more extreme stuff, I understand where you're coming from; honestly, the tagging system on this website can use some work, and if you're looking strictly for just for images, I recommend e621 if you are only looking for just vore images and furry stuff, since stuff is more consistently tagged according to more strict website guidelines, so you are less likely to find stuff that you don't like. However, I am not sure where else you can find more human vore or do things like RP, other than discord servers, but I hope you find a place where you both feel welcome and happy, and I wish you the best of luck!

[JustSomePrey]

Definitely agree. It's pretty crazy just how much this site has turned around, and quite disturbing considering that it is also very often a depiction of either the artist's, writer's, or commissioner's current view of the world.

[Jamjo]

I'm sorry that you feel this way. Cuz I totally understand being put off by it.

I don't know what to make of the underage stuff here, but in general from everyone I've talked to here about these various other kinks and explored within myself as I've warmed up to fatality and harsher aspects of vore, I can say at least in regards to that stuff that everything that makes it kinky and great is inherently impossible irl (even ignoring the basic physiology). If this stuff was experienced irl, the imagined experiences (aka fantasies), wouldn't be there and it would just be the unpleasant realities of overheating, stench, etc. on the prey side and then on the pred side the facet of actually removing something nice from the world and making it worse. Meanwhile fantasies are just that and are there in-place over the unpleasant truths that the scenarios would really present.

I can only really speak on consenting fatal and hard vore, but even though i don't understand the other things, I just like to give them the benefit of the doubt and imagine its pretty much the same for them. Just about no one is really fostering terrible desires here.

Shit, back when I was still a teenager I used to be into illustrations/animations involving underage characters, cuz I was still so fresh out from being under aged myself that it was really more relatable to me (and I was an early bloomer, so it was sort of satisfying those older fantasies I had way way back), and that could well be the case with people who produce and enjoy that kind of content.

From the people I've talked to, we all seem to understand that the kinks we have are just for fun and don't actually relate to real life (although scat isn't harmful by default irl, but I'm clueless on that front, so I wasn't really commenting on that one in general). And I guess I'm optimistic, because I straight up believe the vast, overwhelming majority of people here have a similar attitude.

As for your question: Ever since I've showed up to Eka's, I've seen way way more content that I don't like or outright couldn't stand, as opposed to stuff I liked. And I've built a tolerance to the things I dislike so I don't even cringe at all when I'm browsing and happen across the stuff. So if there's been a shift away from actual vore content, I haven't really *noticed* it myself.

I hope maybe some of my post has been able to help you feel less alienated. And in case you would wanna have a more extensive discussion in private, feel free to message me! It's a bummer to see someone so upset when that doesn't have to be the case.

[Seelane]

I don't mind fecal/urine being involve, but definitely not into the rest. Not a fan of graphic or saddism and am more into wholesome or romantic aspect of vore. Which is funny you only start to complain now because for a decade vore had been mainly unwilling with graphic digestion here. Now I see more diversity, more wholesome vore, diverse predict such as male, and yes l sometimes more graphic stuff. Community changes a lot and it will never always stay the same.

Though I might be more resilient to it since I've put up with Eka for so many years while being only into willing when unwilling was the majority(still is but not as much)

[Kitsouille]

Hmm I don't know. I naturally have a strong stomach (no pun intended) and I skim through results, and close tabs when I don't like what I see. When I look up things here, I try to ignore weird or cringy content and think "hey this is someone else's kink" and "this place is for everyone, not just me". I'm not sure when lines are crossed, I've seen some questionable stuff here, though, so you could be onto something.

[Tetrahedra]

Really this type of stuff wouldn't bother me anywhere near as much if people could be bothered to properly tag their work. You could see an upload with 30 different tags involving every single adjective that could apply to the pic and then... no mention of the pred's gender, age, inclusion of digestion, disposal, etc. Gotten to the point where I barely check the recent uploads and just stick to artists I already follow.

[MrAramax]

As a psychologist, i can say that most of the time, we can't really change the actions of the rest, or in this scenario, the page's content. We can only change our selves, that's not to say that there aren't any improvements to be made in the tags or the general atention to these matters, but, i think that you are taking a wise desition

In the end, many of us are here to find a place were our kinks are just that... kinks and fantasies to share or to indulge on, and if you can't feel it any more, there is no reason to keep exposing your self to things you don't like.

Although, maybe you can still find this kind of support by using the forum :B farewell if you decide to leave and nice to meet you if you stay!

[EnderDracolich]

I share a lot of these feelings and honestly there's no easy answer.

[157and493]

I definitely know how you feel, sometimes I wish we had an entirely separate site for each sub-genre of vore, but I also know how ridiculous that would be.

[blessedwasthechild]

Good tagging and blacklisting a very important, but, this is just a thread about one person leaving the community? I was kinda hoping it was a thread about how people *deal* with feeling alienated even inside the community. Like, how people handle the feeling like they're not even in the same fetish anymore. I have one or two friends who hate fatal vore (I love it) who feel alienated in this way.

[NikkuWstsu]

Ngl, I legit thought I was the only one. I love this community and all, but sometimes I see stuff on here that makes me "question things"
So you're definitely not alone fam, but in all seriousness please don't go!
We NEED more wholesome people like you in this community!

[Nornim]

It's no problem, you either roll with the punches or move on and I'm sure no one will fault you for it. I've seen some disturbing stuff on here that comes back to haunt me once in awhile, but everyone's definition of disturbing varies from person to person. While not disturbed by, I don't like chicks with dicks and lately, it seems like a 50/50 chance whenever I check out something, there's a dick girl depicted. I've sort of got use to it now when it use to frustrate me a lot because from the thumbnail, things look to be to my liking but then I click and would you know it? Dick. I just eventually learned to wade through all the dicks and not take them so hard.

Cooking still mortifies me a lot, still trying to learn to tolerate that one. Just when I think I'm good and can get past cooking, artists find a new way to make it disturbing and I'll commend them on that.

[sadlyknight]

It's no problem, you either roll with the punches or move on and I'm sure no one will fault you for it. I've seen some disturbing stuff on here that comes back to haunt me once in awhile, but everyone's definition of disturbing varies from person to person. While not disturbed by, I don't like chicks with dicks and lately, it seems like a 50/50 chance whenever I check out something, there's a dick girl depicted. I've sort of got use to it now when it use to frustrate me a lot because from the thumbnail, things look to be to my liking but then I click and would you know it? Dick. I just eventually learned to wade through all the dicks and not take them so hard.

Cooking still mortifies me a lot, still trying to learn to tolerate that one. Just when I think I'm good and can get past cooking, artists find a new way to make it disturbing and I'll commend them on that.

Omg I absolutely hate the cooking related vore. I can't stand it I really dislike it. Now for me I like some hard digestion when it's done with care. I also don't like it when vore becomes uncanny valley when you see the complete prey's form to me that is a big no no. I will always hate gore. I do not like the sight of blood. To me it will make me vomit.

[Leshana]

Blacklist things. Digestion has always been a popular and common theme associated with vore, for many folks the Bad Things happening to prey is the key component. As for "child porn indulgences" you won't see any of that here, things like that are against the rules everywhere on the site.

[xXxBadxApplexXx]

I think there's a huge misconception that what people enjoy in fiction reflects something they want to do in real life. Underage content, rape content and even fatal content are just content. It may disgust you, and that's perfectly fair, but if your concern stems from an idea that this content is indicative of actual child molesters, rapists and cannibals being on this site, it's just not true. I'm not saying this to chide you, I'm trying to reassure you. What you see on this site is not necessarily someone thinking "Oh, I wish I could do this in real life. I would do this if I could." Personally, the things I fantasize about would be despicable in real life, and would disgust me, but I'm able to separate a story in my head which gets me off, and acceptable real life behavior and morals.
All this said, this kind of content really should be tagged, because it absolutely is upsetting to many people, and those people deserve to have boundaries respected.

[ThisGuy127]

Use. The. Blacklist.
Use. The. Blacklist.
Say it with me.
Use. The. Blacklist.

No one is making anyone here see content they do not want, in fact, many people go out of their way to add thumbnails warning of the content you are about to see. A lot of great artists here of various interests have been very considerate to those that aren't for some of the content they include in their galleries, and all the same, Eka's provides a much appreciated service to those identifying in the community, as well as those that just make use of the site for their own interests.

That being said, I do agree that some stuff is unsettling, but that's not for Eka's or anyone else to take as dictation to tailor the website to my opinion. While there's still very much many many things that are absolutely not allowed here, those that are remain solely in the idea that vore in general is a kink destined to fantasy and fictional media. That said, predation is a real thing in life and in the real world, and while some take vore as a sexual fetish, others take it as a fascination with nature. Whatever the reason, people are here to see it in whatever stretch and capacity.

In the case of the OP here, I'd tell them the same. Use the blacklist, use the site at your own risk, and no one is keeping you here but yourself. I'm a parent, and I find underage content in any area physically uncomfortable, and I'd say some images in this site have also left me feeling unwell to imagine in a realistic context. However, that's a risk of the site and it's expected that you understand that upon joining. If you find some content is a bit too far into one extreme or another, ignore it, or block it if you must. If art slips through due to incomplete or incorrect tagging, make a tag suggestion or report it if it breaks the rules of the site. The tools to resolve your matter are on the same keyboard you typed onto in the first place, and the risk of discomfort is a matter of life more than one site's inclusion passing your tolerance level. You're at risk of seeing child porn on a biblical study forum just so long as some idiot dares to post it, but unlike here, you wouldn't have a method to prevent seeing it.

If you don't like it, block it. If the block breaks, communicate to Leshana or another site administrator of the issue. If something slips past the block, tag or report it. If something breaks a site rule, report it. If something makes you uncomfortable, deal with it. If you can't deal with it, leave.

All this said, this kind of content really should be tagged, because it absolutely is upsetting to many people, and those people deserve to have boundaries respected.

PS, it is tagged, that's why you can search for it just like you can block it.

[Cuddlekins]

If the blacklist isn't enough, there's a Greasemonkey script which'll let you straight-up hide the art of uses whose art you find bothersome. It has its limitations, and afaik it doesn't work on tags, but yeah.

Also, those of you in this threat insinuating that having a kink for comparatively "extreme" things reflects our real worldview... c'mon, really? :T