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Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Voracious Cutie » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:25 am

What do you all usually find yourself enjoying? I personally like fandom vore, where canon characters/settings are twisted towards vore in some way. Such as the main character being eaten, or suddenly all of the fun battles end in vore. I don't do much OC stuff because i find I have less of a connection to the characters, and a big part of vore to me is melting down that connection. What are you all's thoughts?
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby ElyBlanche » Sat Nov 13, 2021 11:50 am

It really just matters. If you have less connection to your own characters or (in the case of an RP) your partner's character, then sure the connection isn't there, but Fandom Vore for me really needs to be good for it to feel better than OC Vore. With Fandom Vore, I get annoyed if the characters are being twisted and in-universe rules being broken to make vore fit, even when it doesn't make sense for the characters in question.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Nekiame » Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:16 pm

I can enjoy both fandom & OC vore, though when it comes to fandom, I can find it anoying when characters that's for example known to be strong or such is treated like they're whimpy, weak characters just for the sake of being prey. Here's a character that just flipped a dragon over by their neck, and here's the same character being nommed by a puppy. It can kinda kill it for me.
In terms of OC's though, I feel it gets more of a personal touch, at times it makes it also more intimate or special. As a switch myself, I really enjoy seeing my own character being drawn as prey, but those moments where people wanna see him as pred, or even be prey to him, it feels more exiting.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby chewchulainn » Sat Nov 13, 2021 9:38 pm

I definitely like both, and it doesn't personally make a huge difference to me. While seeing vore of canon characters I like or find attractive is always nice, when it comes to OCs and canon characters from series I'm unfamiliar with or don't care about, then the experience is pretty much the same? Either way it's still a character I don't have much knowledge of and a slight sense of missing context, but it doesn't really matter to me as long as the art is enjoyable and/or the concept is strong. Plus, there are times where I prefer to focus more on the scenario itself than the characters, and just kind of imagine whichever characters I would like in that scenario instead, so in those situations it doesn't really matter if it's canon or oc ^^;
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Ixtili » Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:41 pm

I don't gravitate to it unless someone else writes it. But I generally prefer when it makes sense. Like a character that threatens to eat another character follows through with it. Or a story where it's stated that a character will eventually be consumed (e.g. Black Butler). Or say a story where the villain desires the power of the hero and the writer or artist simply uses that as an excuse to have the villain Vore the protagonist. I have standards but no one said they were high standards :lol:
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Noxyoursox » Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:45 pm

(Written) fandom vore can be really annoying to me--because the writers tend to either completely skip anything that establishes the scene (because they assume you already know) OR dump a huge wall of text that doesn't add to the scene. When they hit that middle ground of enough context that I can follow what's going on without information overload, then they can be really good.

OC vore runs the gamut of different levels of detail. I do prefer to develop a connection with the characters but that isn't something that needs to already be there beforehand, for me.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby AeriaGloris » Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:03 am

I'm all about OC characters and scenes.

Most fandom stories tend to be lazily written and jump to the vore portion far too quickly. No character descriptions. Minimal setup. Zero character development. White roomed. God forbid your viewers aren't familiar with the source material.

Anime fanfiction tends to be the worst offender. Take two harem characters, have one eat the other on the grounds of reducing competition and end the piece with "I'm sure character X will love my new assets". Done.

I get some people want to get to the good stuff quickly, but at least give some reason why a certain character would eat their friend.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Borealis » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:28 am

I prefer OCs and utilise those far more in my own content creation (although there will be exceptions). Having a blank canvas and creating someones personality from scratch is fun. I also enjoy characters that are quite grounded and "girl next door" types in erotica, people who could be real people, and oftentimes fandom characters are literal cartoon characters or made from a certain type of stock that doesn't really do it for me.

Having said that I have to give props to those who do fanfiction and do manage to knock it out of the park with great content.

I feel like there's this prevalent feeling that established characters from pop culture are an easy way to farm clicks 'n' favs, and this may be true to a capacity (especially in art, lets be honest), and there's a bit of a not-entirely-untrue stereotype that people sometimes just drop a vixen woman with big tits into a 2 page story and call her Krystal, and boom, done... But I believe that writing a good fanfiction story and trying to juggle characters around with an obscure kink is genuinely challenging. Already some of the comments above show how the audience expectaction sits for such stories, and how you as an author would need to handle the content to do it in a way that resonates with people, and yes these comments are fine and it is a fair audience expectation, but it means that there are extra factors people writing such stories need to take into account to avoid jarring the audience.

Issue is, a lot of these popular characters are essentially heroic leads, or are fighting on the side of good in very broad "good vs evil" franchises. In many cases if you're writing vore with established characters from pop culture you're trying to turn around a set of righteous, good set of character traits- pretty much from stock- of someone from a video game, anime, Disney movie or whatever, and twist them around to give them the capacity to do something like vore to someone else. Hell, even if this isn't the case, characters are usually one of an ensemble in their original media and have a very specific set of personality traits they abide by. And doing them justice without upending the audience (who in many cases may know the franchise or characters far more intimately than you do if they've committed to reading a story about them) is legit tricky.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby stearwing » Sun Nov 14, 2021 3:16 pm

OCs can do whatever, but fanfiction must be remarkably well-justified to work - and never the twain shall meet. OC self-inserts are an enormously difficult thing to get right, and the single time I've done it still gives me the shivers.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby JediPadawanJess » Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:43 pm

Why not both? I'm simple and enjoy drawing fandom and oc vore.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Tetrahedra » Sun Nov 14, 2021 9:44 pm

i like both, though i'm kind of picky with what fandom characters i'll draw (unless it's for a trade or a collaboration or something). i also like the idea of doing canon pred/oc prey or oc pred/canon prey.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby IvesBentonEaton » Sun Nov 14, 2021 10:58 pm

I avoid fandom characters in fetish writing and role-play because
  1. I am not that big a fan of most things;
  2. I don't keep up on pop culture as much as I used to;
  3. I dislike "pulling a Rule 34" on someone else's work, particularly if I like that work, out of respect to its creator(s);
  4. I prefer the challenge of making my own settings rather than tapping someone else's.
That last doesn't mean I can't be as lazy as the next lazy guy; I tend to use one setting for most of my vore stories and such-like, although I'm almost always adding to it. But if I'm going to corrupt something with my own twisted desires, I'll keep it to my own stuff, if it please the court. :D
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby todomatsu » Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:57 pm

I tend to prefer fandom characters, as I don't have as much attachment to some rando's OCs as I do the exploits of some character I've seen in action and enjoyed on screen (or whatever media I consumed) for hours on end. That being said, I don't hate non-fandom vore or anything, it's definitely good eye candy if it hits my preferences, or when I'm involved in a roleplay so I have some sort of reason to get attached to another person's character. But fandom vore tends to be where it's at for me.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Unfortunate » Mon Nov 15, 2021 8:54 pm

I've been away from Aryion for a while, but I'm glad this topic was here when I took a peek back, since it actually got me to log back in. I think I have something to add to this: A lot of folks have mentioned they prefer Fandom, so I'm going to take this opportunity to enthuse about OCs specifically. I like them.

I think we all agree that Vore OCs have the capacity to be surprisingly unique: I have seen all manner of characters and bizarre anatomy that could only ever exist due to the fetish, and the amount of wild and, dare I say, bold designs you can try means there's a lot of fun faces about.
Here, case in point:
Fat fetish: The character is probably going to be fat, that being their mandatory feature for the fetish. You'd be shocked if everyone was talking about BBW, and the OC in question was usually depicted with the curves of a stick insect. The only time they'd make sense to be thin is if they get bigger later.
Inflation fetish: A broader range of possibilities, but you see rubberised and balloon characters show up more.
Vore fetish: “Hello, I'd like to introduce my new OC. They have long supple legs, flowing locks and and they can engulf your entire body just by forcing you into their own. Yes, they don't even need an mouth or other orifice, they just assimilate you... They're also a secret escaped government experiment and use their ability to take down their pursuers without raising suspicion... AND...” Yeah, I made that up on the spot just now with minimal thought, and yet it's already a insanely out there idea...
A vore character could eat you with their tail, leading to all sorts of bold looking options just for that one feature: How much do you want it to blend in? Should it be nondescript, or an obvious second mouth? There are so many options, guys! OCs in other fetishes can put a real creative spin on their formula, and can have crazy base designs outside of the fetish element, but I tend to notice Vore's formula, much like Vore itself, is more broad and difficult to define, leading to wilder looking characters roaming around. Not to say you don't get generic ones, I've seen plenty of vanilla designs, but there are a lot more that stand out. Some fit the most surface definition of Vore and look simple and generic enough to somewhat blend in with other non-vore OCs, while some are something that only a voraerephile would think to create.
They also show off a bit of their creators as well: OCs are infinitely more intimate and personalised than IP is. Yes it's Goku, but you didn't make Goku. Each creator has their own cast, and sometimes you get to see them interact in ways outside of vore, or within vore but in a interesting manner. You don't learn much about IPs from vore art, but you can learn more about a collection of OCs, since they're more likely to strike up conversation and have in universe motives.
I like seeing people's OCs, I think they're pretty neat, even if most wouldn't bat an eyelid at them...!

I'd like to mention that I'm fine with Fandom content existing: It does constitute a lot of the content you get, and we'd all be worse off if all of that art vanished. Fandom works can be just as passionate as original ones, and there have been some fine creations made out of established IPs. It's good content.
I wouldn't say that I personally like it though: They may be popular culture icons, but at one point they were somebody's OC too. People often deliberately forget that, especially when an internet creator's IP gets unexpectedly popular. Some are churned out to fill gaps in the roster or simply make money, but some have real passion behind their creation; and I imagine seeing their characters eating somebody, or being eaten themselves, may upset or outright piss these creators off. I've seen professional artists for animated shows actually react in disgust to porn of their characters in the past, so I know it can rub them the wrong way, same way I've seen somebody make porn of somebody else's OC and get chewed out for it. (Not naming names, though I never fully forgave the culprit...)
It's not that different really.
Some IPs are so old and well established now that the OG creators no longer have any involvement anymore, and some Fandom OCs are based off of species and things rather than specific individuals, so you could argue they get a pass, and I agree to that to a degree... it's a fair point... but what I won't ever agree with are smaller, indie style projects: Works created online with only solo or a very small group of creators. These tend to be very personal passion projects more often than not, and a lot of these people are also active online and more likely to be in contact with fans.
Take it from me: Most of my characters off site are completely unrelated to vore, and if I somehow ever made a work that got popular enough to warrant people producing porn content... I'll admit I'd be pretty pissed off seeing it. It wouldn't be scorched earth with the artist immediately if we weren't friends, but at the same time things wouldn't be the same afterwards.

OCs purely designed for vore have the intent to be vore compatible: They are used in vore, and the creator uses them in scenarios depicting vore. (That they are comfortable with, mind you...!)
That character from that IP you like does not have that intent: They never explicitly ate anyone a vore like fashion in canon, they were never intended to, and they were likely never wanted to turn up in such a situation period.
Yoshi eats his enemies sure, but would his creator actually see him getting off to eating somebody and say; “That feels right to me”? If so, awesome! :silly: But probably not, let's be realistic...
Again – I have an example: My Little Pony G4's creator was linked porn of their own avatar, and reacted about as okay to it as you'd expect. They never intended their OC to be drawn fuckin'. They also never intended to have the princess be rewritten into a serial sex offender by the fans. (No, seriously.)
Alas, it happened, and they didn't seem best pleased...
I've seen youtubers and gamedevs get equally upset when their creations and avatars are used weirdly. It's not a foreign concept, I've seen it multiple times.

That's why OCs win for me. I'd feel bad looking at art that would make the character's creator uncomfortable, with OCs there's no guilt attached. Usually.
I have liked IP content in the past, some of it's pretty good. Hell, I like some of the stuff depicting Yoshi, and ponies... hell, even Pokémon! I'm not afraid to admit it! I'm a hypocrite sure, but I'm also aware that these views effect my enjoyment of such content. It doesn't always feel right to me, that feeling always lurks in the back of my mind.

I remember reading a story with IP characters that involved the cruel, twisted and brutal consumption of all of them, with the predators seeming quite apathetic and casual in the suffering they caused: It was really well written, to the point that I struggled to stop reading, meaning that every single thing that happened just made it even easier to visualise their pain. I liked these characters. Reading about them dying screaming for their family was a soul destroying experience.
A decently well written vore story. A horribly bad experience. It's probably why I don't like IP characters as much, I get attached...! I haven't written off IP content, it's perfectly fine, I just have a few issues with it.

Here's a TL:DR, but I'll also make a few extra points:
There are pros and cons.

+ OCs are built for vore, the creator/artist/commissioner is probably okay with them doing it. A IP character's creator could actually be left seething if they saw the things we arty types do... The intent behind it is key.
+ OCs have a level of visual uniqueness that an IP character wouldn't have: Likewise, there are no major leaps in logic/shifts in personality needed for an OC to vore, while IP characters suffer for it.
+ Some OCs have a level of familiarity to them: You see them around. Sometimes they may even become like a friend of yours, or somebody you interact with. OCs aren't always randos, they have the potential to be good gauges/entry points to finding more of your preferred content, and you can even get attached to them and have your OCs interact in commissions and art trades. I have characters I'm always happy to see more of, simply because I've seen them enough times in a positive manner.

- OCs rarely have the history of content that most IP characters do: OCs who have actual lives you can follow are rare, so it can be harder to get invested. You could talk someone's ear off about an IP character, but an original one that ain't yours...? That's actually pretty tough...!
- Quality isn't consistent: Most OCs are amateur creations made by artists casually, and thus are not all created equally. You will encounter many misses before you get a hit. Art depicting IP characters can also be real shitty at times, but the character themselves is pre-established. Setting the tone, building the setting and introducing a character? An OC has to do all that heavy lifting alone, and that's quite the steep slope for new creators.
- 3D anyone? Some mediums are simply easier to work with using established characters, and their models. Have you ever tried to model an original character? It's much easier to use what already exists, as such skills are usually highly demanding and require a very niche skill set.

I think that's all I have to say. All this typing has burned a hole into my smooth brain, so even if I had something else to add... I really can't be arsed anymore...! Enjoy what you enjoy, but don't be afraid to give OCs a chance every now and then: I'm sure the artists who only use OCs would appreciate the extra traffic, since sometimes they can be a tad more obscure.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby GoTee1 » Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:11 am

I wanna say 'both,' but actually I suppose Fandom vore is a lot more generally appealing to me. Like you said, there is something deeply fun about twisting familiar characters into devouring each other, which can be lost if a character is already specifically built for it. You can do a million things with your OC, but not that... unless they're also used frequently for non-fetish stuff, I guess.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Ghrelin » Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:54 pm

While there are fandoms I don't mind and even enjoy seeing in art/writing, I vastly prefer OC content. With fandoms, I have to 1, be familiar with it; 2, enjoy it; and 3, actually want to see that kind of material involving it--and for me, that's a really hard combination to hit. Just because I like something doesn't mean I want vore of it, and if I know something is from a game/show/etc I'm not familiar with, it kinda ruins it for me, because how I feel about the source material affects how I feel about the art/story.

Something about viewing fan art of things I'm not familiar with/interested in gives me the same vibe as wearing a t-shirt of a band I've never listened to/don't like. It can be a nice shirt and maybe I like the design regardless, but there's something that keeps me from really connecting with it, or feels off about doing so. With OC content, I don't get that feeling. The context is already there; I already know that whatever's going on in the image suits the character(s) involved, and I'm already as familiar with it as I have to be to appreciate the art/story--and if there's a deeper backstory that changes the perspective of the art I'm looking at, it's usually quick and easy to get caught up on by scrolling through the artist's other work.

I also just really enjoy seeing people's original concepts and creations. I appreciate the love that goes into an OC design, as well as how unique and interesting they can be (not to mention being tailored to the content they're being used for, which helps a lot with immersion as well as adding more interesting details). I rarely make fan art, myself, even in a non-vore context. I can enjoy it, but I feel more invested in my own creations and those of people who I know feel the same way about theirs. I always get excited when I find a cool character design and realize the creator has filled in their background and put a lot of thought and care into them. I can't really connect with the creators of well-established IPs the same way.

And sometimes, I enjoy not needing context at all. I feel like with fandom work, being familiar with the source material is more or less a requirement (not everyone feels that way and that's fine, but that's how it is for me). I prefer to be able to just see cool art and know that it's not "from" anything but the creator's imagination! I can easily appreciate it then for what it is.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Chameleonette » Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:53 pm

Honestly, I really like both. And even a MIX of both. I draw and write self-indulgent trash with a canon character a lot that I really adore and affectionately call my 'huspred'. I also enjoy it in fandom canons, which I've written and drawn before as well (and often enjoy looking at/reading, though there really isn't much that matches my niche interests).

But through vore, I think I've also reawakened my love for OCs that had long since been dormant years ago. It has been a lot of fun creating my own characters both pred and prey alike, and exploring vore scenarios with them. Hell, I even took a few really old characters of mine and adapted them for vore, as well. It worked out really well, specifically for the character I turned into a pred.

There's a lot you can explore with both and with a mixture of them both. Everyone is different and often one will appeal and inspire more than the other, but it doesn't change the fact that there's really endless potential with all of it. In the end, it really just boils down to preferences and what makes any certain content creator or content consumer click with the story/characters/art depicted.
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Re: Fandom Vore vs OC Vore

Postby Mecho » Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:22 pm

Mix of both, depending on the fandom. Though, I enjoy drawing my owns and other peeps OCs way more then fanart. Seeing someone else build their own world with their own rules and characters is really neat. And designing own stuff is just too much fun.

Also, when doing your own stuff, it feels like the people who enjoys it enjoys the content YOU create more, like it's much more personal. If the people like the fanart, they are mostly there because they like the game/movie/anime.

Or that is the feeling I get. Can be totally wrong here. So if anyone else are feeling completely different/believe other wise. Plz share your thoughts :)
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