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A vore society where reformation is a thing but...

Postby Ixtili » Sat Sep 17, 2022 11:02 pm

...but the prey are treated as an extension of the pred/the preds property even when they reform/are punished heavily by the society for resurrecting because it's more convienient for the society from a cultural, religious, ideological or economic perspective.

Like a Fairy Tale world where a tragedy is "destined" and averting it is considered radical or dangerous so even though it's possible it's not looked on kindly by "polite" society. This might even be an unnecessary fear there could be ample evidence to suggest that the first death fulfilled the destiny but the society is so fearful of messing with the natural order they can't recognise that yet. So a destined monster and destined tragic hero or heroine can still be "friends" but at the cost of one sides social autonomy.

You could also have it be like a Furry world where people are divided into predator and prey and the prey is seen as circumventing their "place" in the society by coming back even if the pred agrees that they want the prey to reform. The predator could also lose social credibility for allowing the prey to "walk all over" them or something else like that.

Basically reformation is looked down upon not because of the ship of theseus angle but because the society in which this is happening feel threatened by or fear reformation in some way.
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Re: A vore society where reformation is a thing but...

Postby bugboy8 » Sun Sep 18, 2022 2:39 am

This is a great idea. I just have two questions.

1. Can any process be used to bind pred/preds and prey?
Like in the Fairy Tale world if the prey decides the pain of digesting is too much, will the prey and pred be automatically bound together due to a magical contract/ancient, forgotten spell that was cast for one reason or another? Or would the pred/preds need to drag the prey towards a tribunal of magic users to prove the 'offense' happened(perhaps one too many preds were caught lying after the fact).

Or like in the Furry world; would an agreeable pred(s) and prey need to go to a lawyer/court house to make a contract? Which is still seen as taboo since the prey is defying their place in the world and disliked due to something 'silly'(think Beastars' society's view on interspecies relationships). While like others might be darker. An example could be like, the prey chose to reform on their own and the pred, seeing this, tries to keep the prey locked up/hidden to keep their reputation in tact which could lead to a huge scandal if the prey were to jump from pred to pred(which, now that I type that, makes me think of a whole other thing).

I'm sorry that's a lot. I wanted to pick your brain on the specific ways pred(s) could own prey due to reforming.

My second question is: can I have your blessing to write in this type of world setting?
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Re: A vore society where reformation is a thing but...

Postby Ixtili » Sun Sep 18, 2022 3:23 am

bugboy8 wrote:This is a great idea. I just have two questions.

1. Can any process be used to bind pred/preds and prey?
Like in the Fairy Tale world if the prey decides the pain of digesting is too much, will the prey and pred be automatically bound together due to a magical contract/ancient, forgotten spell that was cast for one reason or another? Or would the pred/preds need to drag the prey towards a tribunal of magic users to prove the 'offense' happened(perhaps one too many preds were caught lying after the fact).

Or like in the Furry world; would an agreeable pred(s) and prey need to go to a lawyer/court house to make a contract? Which is still seen as taboo since the prey is defying their place in the world and disliked due to something 'silly'(think Beastars' society's view on interspecies relationships). While like others might be darker. An example could be like, the prey chose to reform on their own and the pred, seeing this, tries to keep the prey locked up/hidden to keep their reputation in tact which could lead to a huge scandal if the prey were to jump from pred to pred(which, now that I type that, makes me think of a whole other thing).

I'm sorry that's a lot. I wanted to pick your brain on the specific ways pred(s) could own prey due to reforming.

My second question is: can I have your blessing to write in this type of world setting?


To your first question with the fairy tale world I was thinking there'd probably be an element of soul binding after all what's the point of "sparing" your frenemy if some well meaning meddler can just cut the taboo relationship short by eating the prey themselves? Whether that contract goes both ways? I didn't have much of a plan but I'm sure that'd be possible.

I like your idea of a pred trying to hide the prey to keep their reputation intact if a prey reforming is considered weakness on the part of the pred that could absolutely happen. You could also go the lawyer route too.

To your second question I don't think I have a monopoly on these ideas so go for it.

Edit: In the case of the Fairy Tale one I kinda did have the idea that the prey would not be allowed to show themselves publically unless the pred was planning to/already had eaten them that day, to keep the younger generations of fairy tale characters from getting ideas that they could subvert their own destinies, after all if the tragic heroes and heroines are doing it what about the villains with bad ends? What about the family values of marrying your daughter to the first stranger who slays a dragon or stays a night in a haunted keep? Society would be anarchy! So house arrest for you! I was also thinking for the espeacially traditional families there'd be some shunning like the fact the person was destined to die means they don't acknowledge that they still exist.
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Re: A vore society where reformation is a thing but...

Postby alockwood1 » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:54 am

Reformation is something I don't mind, as it gives me a sort of mental safety net while exploring darker aspects of a vore-based society.

I mean, if it was consensual, and the whole getting eaten thing is treated as an annoyance, or as something fun, I don't really mind it.
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Re: A vore society where reformation is a thing but...

Postby TestAccountPleaseIgnore » Thu Sep 22, 2022 3:32 pm

Ixtili wrote:Basically reformation is looked down upon not because of the ship of theseus angle but because the society in which this is happening feel threatened by or fear reformation in some way.


To my knowledge, the only work out there in which reformation is looked down upon by society specifically because society fears it is CindyTaur's hard-vore Truthverse setting (specifically, this part of it: https://aryion.com/g4/view/477718), where there's societal pushback against reformation because it upends societal norms (i.e. stops most of the population from dying before their 25th birthday).

Although it doesn't quite fit your bill of "society doesn't like reformation", there are two other "reformation-still-has-significant-consequences" works I like:

- Ohgra's soft-vore one-shot Imperfect, in which it turns out reformation causes memory loss in those being reformed...but a certain person don't care.

- ObsidianSnake's soft-vore Eanli Cosmos, which is an incredibly impressive (easily hundreds of thousands of words so far, across ~25 stories) look at what'd happen if vore was entirely non-sexualized and carried out by domineering predators with a BDSM aesthetic. Oh, and if you get reformed too many times, you loose work hours and income, can no longer pay the rent, get evicted, and get half-enslaved/half-adopted-as-a-family-member. Really, you have to read it to understand it.
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