art courses online?

[Leukoplakia (mention)]

I'm interested in learning how to actually draw my own art. Not really sure where to start though. I'm wondering if any experienced artists can share their origin story and how they learned.

[CapturePoint (mention)]

I experimented with tracing a few times for pieces that I really liked, mostly side profile sketches but it never really clicked with me until an artist I followed put out a brief how to video and a challenge to get people to draw, winner would get a sketch by them too.

I figured I'd try that and I managed to produce a few sketches. I don't think I won any of the challenges ( there were about four?) but it was just enough to get me to try drawing a few more afterwards.

With the encouragement and feedback of artists I knew I eventually developed to the current day. (I quit drawing forever and ever like twelve times in the first year)

[PureWaterA (mention)]

Ignore what others say. I will give you the REAL WAY... THE LOGICAL WAY.
Other artists will go: "You have to feel it bro, just keep grinding, its a natural understanding process." They are all full of SHIT.

Here is the ORDER:
- Shapes
- Colours
- Composition
- Understanding (Anatomy)

Shapes:
For shapes its very simple. Breaking down your target into digestible shapes that are pleasant to look at. When you are drawing, you are not making highly detailed, rendered images... You are making pretty pictures. If people wanted realism, they'd grab a camera... so for the start, find what you like and break it into shapes. By doing this you will also train your brain to see these shapes.
There ARE some methods to help mental visualization and shortcuts in this endeavor... such as the sack method. Drawing a sack and building a body out of it. Other possible methods include the lumen method for drawing heads, starting with a circle and putting lines on side to help building out any angle. OVERALL it comes down to UNDERSTANDING shapes in the subject you build.
(NOTE: DO NOT TRY HIGH LEVEL RENDERING UNLESS YOU UNDERSTAND THE BREAKDOWN)

Colours:
For colours this can get subjective but this process involves understanding how things appear under certain situations and usually images won't paint this well enough for you online. You need to physically go look at some irl. Reason you start with shapes is because honestly you need to be able to break down subjects into shapes when painting so that when u blend it reads lessoning the confusion on you. An example of something you can study to understand this are leaves early in the morning. If you watch a tree, you will get: Yellows, Oranges, Greens, Blues, and so many colors if you look deep. I personally am not a color expert but it can get extremely deep as its a whole different subject. Highly recommend finding youtube channels specifically around painters on this.

Composition:
This consists of understanding where you position what. There are tons of methods out there for this, but this essentially comes down to shaping and placing things properly. You can test this. Only use values of grey and just sketch in shapes on a canvas and quickly you'll realize the same subject comes across completely differently dependent on paneling. A low angle = domination. high angle = submission.
(This is also honestly really important if you are a comic artist.)

Anatomy/Understanding:
I honestly find Anatomy to be overrated, as these are drawings. It doesn't matter, but if you REALLY want to be next level and have the ABILITY to do crazy drawings it will be required at some point. There is no shortcut for this, go google medical records and start studying. The Coccyx that strengths to the sphincter with the Glutes making up multiple heads... you have to actually study it. It's boring, but this comes in handy when drawing overly detailed panels and especially with overly exaggerated men. However if you were to remove one of these four subjects, remove anatomy

SPECIAL NOTES FROM PUREWATERA, WHICH IS ME:
1.) DO NOT focus on styles. Styles come real life exaggerations, such as Chibis and Animes which originally were meant to replicate the cuteness and innocent of youngsters with bigger eyes n foreheads, along with the simplified style for quicker production in art studios forgiving mistakes. You will naturally have a "style" when u understand what the style is there for.
A Combat Manga? Hyper Realism with an ink style involving drag lines which makes Gore feel "real"
A Slice o Life? More Anime mix of MOE to sprinkle it.
Silly Lil Daily Comics? Chibis with Humor and exaggerated expressions.

If you wish to PRACTICE with a COURSE: go to "Drawabox" site is free.

[BerryStar112 (mention)]

@CapturePoint

Do you by chance have an estimate of how much time you spent learning to draw? Before you could make something "up to par" I mean. I'm curious because I'm thinking about seriously getting into drawing vore

[GastricAztec (mention)]

I experimented with tracing a few times for pieces that I really liked, mostly side profile sketches but it never really clicked with me until an artist I followed put out a brief how to video and a challenge to get people to draw, winner would get a sketch by them too.

I figured I'd try that and I managed to produce a few sketches. I don't think I won any of the challenges ( there were about four?) but it was just enough to get me to try drawing a few more afterwards.

With the encouragement and feedback of artists I knew I eventually developed to the current day. (I quit drawing forever and ever like twelve times in the first year)
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Can you please link to the video?

[Bright (mention)]

Learning how to draw in general is a good way to get started before learning how to draw vore.

Marc Brunet got some good videos.
https://youtu.be/6gAnatlxcPs

[THEholySnail (mention)]

Ignore what others say. I will give you the REAL WAY... THE LOGICAL WAY.
Other artists will go: "You have to feel it bro, just keep grinding, its a natural understanding process." They are all full of SHIT.

Here is the ORDER:
- Shapes
- Colours
- Composition
- Understanding (Anatomy)

I'd say it depends. Starting with the shapes is useful for drawing, because unlike the process of painting, drawing relies on an illusion of planes created through linework, rather than the illusion of linework created through planes.
I personally recommend the attempt of laying out your composition first over before moving onward towards shapes. Specifically because if you make a mistake in your overall composition and you want to change the entire structure of your composition, you would have to change and adjust all outlines of the shapes related to your composition.
However if you draw out the overall composition first and make a mistake in the shapes later on, the mistake remains in that specific detail. Something that you can always adjust afterwards without having to redo everything you did prior.

Now, incase you prefer to not draw, but paint instead, then I do not recommend starting with shapes either. In that case how you start depends on what type of colours you are using. If you're using watercolours for example, you probably want to approximately lay out where light and where darkness needs to be. This is because watercolours are very transparent and stack in a rather additive way, meaning a darker colour will almost always cover a colour that is very light. However a lighter colour will never cover a darker one.
For watercolours specifically I also recommend waiting. I'd say the biggest mistake you can make, is trying to paint small details into a still wet area and sometimes even a little bit wet areas can have very significant impact on how the colour on your brush gets distributed.

[PureWaterA (mention)]

Ignore what others say. I will give you the REAL WAY... THE LOGICAL WAY.
Other artists will go: "You have to feel it bro, just keep grinding, its a natural understanding process." They are all full of SHIT.

Here is the ORDER:
- Shapes
- Colours
- Composition
- Understanding (Anatomy)

I'd say it depends. Starting with the shapes is useful for drawing, because unlike the process of painting, drawing relies on an illusion of planes created through linework, rather than the illusion of linework created through planes.
I personally recommend the attempt of laying out your composition first over before moving onward towards shapes. Specifically because if you make a mistake in your overall composition and you want to change the entire structure of your composition, you would have to change and adjust all outlines of the shapes related to your composition.
However if you draw out the overall composition first and make a mistake in the shapes later on, the mistake remains in that specific detail. Something that you can always adjust afterwards without having to redo everything you did prior.

Now, incase you prefer to not draw, but paint instead, then I do not recommend starting with shapes either. In that case how you start depends on what type of colours you are using. If you're using watercolours for example, you probably want to approximately lay out where light and where darkness needs to be. This is because watercolours are very transparent and stack in a rather additive way, meaning a darker colour will almost always cover a colour that is very light. However a lighter colour will never cover a darker one.
For watercolours specifically I also recommend waiting. I'd say the biggest mistake you can make, is trying to paint small details into a still wet area and sometimes even a little bit wet areas can have very significant impact on how the colour on your brush gets distributed.
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Nothing this person said was actually wrong either. That is why I recommended checking out art channels around painting. You 2D Paint like you are a sculptor. It's a different experience. Composition is universal though. I recommended shapes cause they want to draw vore and the stomachs are full of shapes and its also related to how they want to convey it which is all drawings are.

Circle = Softer more preg feel
Outline and Shapes of Human = More stuffed and controlled vibe to it

But yeah, you make good points.

[THEholySnail (mention)]

Ignore what others say. I will give you the REAL WAY... THE LOGICAL WAY.
Other artists will go: "You have to feel it bro, just keep grinding, its a natural understanding process." They are all full of SHIT.

Here is the ORDER:
- Shapes
- Colours
- Composition
- Understanding (Anatomy)

I'd say it depends. Starting with the shapes is useful for drawing, because unlike the process of painting, drawing relies on an illusion of planes created through linework, rather than the illusion of linework created through planes.
I personally recommend the attempt of laying out your composition first over before moving onward towards shapes. Specifically because if you make a mistake in your overall composition and you want to change the entire structure of your composition, you would have to change and adjust all outlines of the shapes related to your composition.
However if you draw out the overall composition first and make a mistake in the shapes later on, the mistake remains in that specific detail. Something that you can always adjust afterwards without having to redo everything you did prior.

Now, incase you prefer to not draw, but paint instead, then I do not recommend starting with shapes either. In that case how you start depends on what type of colours you are using. If you're using watercolours for example, you probably want to approximately lay out where light and where darkness needs to be. This is because watercolours are very transparent and stack in a rather additive way, meaning a darker colour will almost always cover a colour that is very light. However a lighter colour will never cover a darker one.
For watercolours specifically I also recommend waiting. I'd say the biggest mistake you can make, is trying to paint small details into a still wet area and sometimes even a little bit wet areas can have very significant impact on how the colour on your brush gets distributed.
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Nothing this person said was actually wrong either. That is why I recommended checking out art channels around painting. You 2D Paint like you are a sculptor. It's a different experience. Composition is universal though. I recommended shapes cause they want to draw vore and the stomachs are full of shapes and its also related to how they want to convey it which is all drawings are.

Circle = Softer more preg feel
Outline and Shapes of Human = More stuffed and controlled vibe to it

But yeah, you make good points.
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Were you referring to "shapes" in the sense of "imprints" on bellies? Because I interpreted shapes in the sense of an "outline" so to speak. In that case I missunderstood what was referred to, as I essentially thought, that the word was in reference to how the silhouette of a structure would look. (Which, you know is definetely a unique approach, probably the most suited approach for practicing outlines, but I do believe the approach heavily punishes mistakes, which again is a good thing for the practice of silhouettes.) But I think, I get, what you meant: You meant, that you first work on the prey's structure before starting to determine the belly as a whole, right?

[CapturePoint (mention)]

I experimented with tracing a few times for pieces that I really liked, mostly side profile sketches but it never really clicked with me until an artist I followed put out a brief how to video and a challenge to get people to draw, winner would get a sketch by them too.

I figured I'd try that and I managed to produce a few sketches. I don't think I won any of the challenges ( there were about four?) but it was just enough to get me to try drawing a few more afterwards.

With the encouragement and feedback of artists I knew I eventually developed to the current day. (I quit drawing forever and ever like twelve times in the first year)
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Can you please link to the video?
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Sure thing, it's this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toiZCmEaN8o

It is short and simple, and it's just about heads. But I did this a bunch of times with a few different characters for the contest, and then it slowly grew. I also drew along with a bunch of MikeyMegaMega's tutorials for body shapes;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmTS319S0s4

These are pretty uh, specific, tutorials in terms of body types, but it's a start for many things

And @berrystar as for how long it took me to draw 'up to par', that's complicated? I still tend to make my newest drawing better than the one before it. But I do think the maximum of learning speed/quality per drawing ratio was achieved after about one year? I tend to draw SLOW and get distracted a lot, so I think that can be faster if need be!

[ReptileKing23 (mention)]

Interesting