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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Revx_Z » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:01 am

radiogenicvore wrote:bugs:
Dealer keeps hitting even if she already beat my hand

Is this perhaps because of the rule that dealer must draw on 16?
radiogenicvore wrote:Not sure if bugs or rule choices:
Dealer does not stand on 17 or higher

What 17+ hand did the dealer not stand on?
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Journeyman » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:54 am

Schpadoinkle, this is one where I'd commish a second dealer (and the artist indicated a willingness to draw a second one) if donations reached the commission amount. The commission cost was steep compared to the game's price tag (free), though, so I so not anticipate reaching that amount. I might go for it anyways, but we'll see ;) And another artist working on a variation of this blackjack game intends to make 3 dealers.

Cinquint, yesss. hungry dealers always win!! Haha, really, though, she actually just plays the simplest thing possible: "If hand is not 17 or greater, Hit." It's the standard rules! But one of the things I love about it is the way that the probability makes it seem like the dealer is doing something sneaky :D Adds personality!

Jeschke, hehehehehehehehe. Modability? Well, there's one secret modability feature hiding inside your current copy of the game!!! Muahahaha. More to be revealed soon. In all liklihood, though, there will not be the ability to add your own dealer images due to a number of complications with how they are presented (blinking eyes and cutscene positioning/scaling were done in a way that is hard to customize without editing code)

NekoYuki, yayyyy! Thank you~~~ ^^ Apologies for the lack of dialogue reply; I wasn't sure how to answer your questions about situation and direction, and I was so close to finished except for dialogue, so I ended up just plowing through and adding everything I could.

Saiai, awesome! Neat to hear the point of view from the other side of the table :D Glad you like the game!

Reaverbot, dawww. But all the more satisfying when you finally beat her, right? M-maybe? ;D

eatmeplease, I have gotten that request a few times, and would not be opposed--there are some serious logistical challenges there, but we'll see.

DjConnorJ, what happens when you lose is the same thing that happens to everyone who loses at a voreish gamble. :gulp:

radiogenicvore, thanks for the bug reports!
  • I think you're right about some money leaking away somewhere on a double. I have to check...
  • The dealer should keep hitting after she beats you; those are standard rules--and one of the only ways to win!!! The dealer is required to hit up to 17, so you plan on how to play your hand based on whether the dealer might bust (Example: if you have a 13 and the dealer is showing a 5, you can stand on the 13 knowing that the dealer is more than 50% likely to have a 13, 14, 15, or 16. Since the dealer must draw, a bust is likely).
  • The dealer should not draw with 17 or higher, and is not programmed to. If you see a case where she does, could you let me know as much as you can about which cards you had and which move you chose? I have not seen this happen myself .-.
  • Yep! I removed resplitting, mostly as an interface choice, and partially to make the game easier to debug (fewer scoring complications to sort out). The main decision was that I did not design the player's table area with enough space to accommodate multiple split hands. Oops!
  • Yep! Intentional choice with the money in this case. Since this game has limited betting (4 amounts only), a definite win/lose scenario, and you get eaten if your final bet leaves you in debt, I decided to allow the player to wager themselves into debt. And, if the player is lucky, a big payout can save them!
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby DjConnorJ » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:10 am

Is there pictures for the vore parts?
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Reaverbot » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:19 am

Journeyman wrote:[/list]


nah, sorry, absolutely no patience for it. that, and there's no way to reset the game so i have to spend even more time intentionally trying to lose

thanks for your hard work though
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Revx_Z » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:55 am

There's a reset button. It looks like a U shaped arrow at lower right.
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby forumlurker » Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:57 am

I don't get some of the complaints here. Yes, it's difficult, yes you need some luck to win and yes, you're fighting odds that aren't in your favor. That's blackjack and the casino for you. Only if you play against other players/human players, you might not have these odds against you. A multiplayer texas hold 'em mod perhaps? :D
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Shadowlyger » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:09 pm

Revx_Z wrote:There's a reset button. It looks like a U shaped arrow at lower right.

Doesn't actually reset the game unless you win/lose, at least not in my version. Haven't downloaded the most recent one, mind.
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby datdemguy » Sat Mar 14, 2015 12:14 pm

I figured out that the game does actually use a deck and she only shuffles when the deck runs out of cards.
So I got my edge by card counting. >.>
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Travis_Hackett » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:15 pm

I can't seem to loose at this game. If the gameplay is anything like actual blackjack, then maybe I should head to Vegas :lol:
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby 0Anesthetic4u » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:32 pm

Journeyman wrote:Schpadoinkle, this is one where I'd commish a second dealer (and the artist indicated a willingness to draw a second one) if donations reached the commission amount. The commission cost was steep compared to the game's price tag (free), though, so I so not anticipate reaching that amount. I might go for it anyways, but we'll see ;) And another artist working on a variation of this blackjack game intends to make 3 dealers.

Cinquint, yesss. hungry dealers always win!! Haha, really, though, she actually just plays the simplest thing possible: "If hand is not 17 or greater, Hit." It's the standard rules! But one of the things I love about it is the way that the probability makes it seem like the dealer is doing something sneaky :D Adds personality!

Jeschke, hehehehehehehehe. Modability? Well, there's one secret modability feature hiding inside your current copy of the game!!! Muahahaha. More to be revealed soon. In all liklihood, though, there will not be the ability to add your own dealer images due to a number of complications with how they are presented (blinking eyes and cutscene positioning/scaling were done in a way that is hard to customize without editing code)

NekoYuki, yayyyy! Thank you~~~ ^^ Apologies for the lack of dialogue reply; I wasn't sure how to answer your questions about situation and direction, and I was so close to finished except for dialogue, so I ended up just plowing through and adding everything I could.

Saiai, awesome! Neat to hear the point of view from the other side of the table :D Glad you like the game!

Reaverbot, dawww. But all the more satisfying when you finally beat her, right? M-maybe? ;D

eatmeplease, I have gotten that request a few times, and would not be opposed--there are some serious logistical challenges there, but we'll see.

DjConnorJ, what happens when you lose is the same thing that happens to everyone who loses at a voreish gamble. :gulp:

radiogenicvore, thanks for the bug reports!
  • I think you're right about some money leaking away somewhere on a double. I have to check...
  • The dealer should keep hitting after she beats you; those are standard rules--and one of the only ways to win!!! The dealer is required to hit up to 17, so you plan on how to play your hand based on whether the dealer might bust (Example: if you have a 13 and the dealer is showing a 5, you can stand on the 13 knowing that the dealer is more than 50% likely to have a 13, 14, 15, or 16. Since the dealer must draw, a bust is likely).
  • The dealer should not draw with 17 or higher, and is not programmed to. If you see a case where she does, could you let me know as much as you can about which cards you had and which move you chose? I have not seen this happen myself .-.
  • Yep! I removed resplitting, mostly as an interface choice, and partially to make the game easier to debug (fewer scoring complications to sort out). The main decision was that I did not design the player's table area with enough space to accommodate multiple split hands. Oops!
  • Yep! Intentional choice with the money in this case. Since this game has limited betting (4 amounts only), a definite win/lose scenario, and you get eaten if your final bet leaves you in debt, I decided to allow the player to wager themselves into debt. And, if the player is lucky, a big payout can save them!


Hmm. Maybe the Rules I'm awear of are old. The Dealer I know was a Dealer back in the 70s and 80s so it could be that the rules either changed, casinos stopped fearing busting on 16... or they worked at a Good Guy Casino, as much as thats an Oxy Moron. All I know is that acording to them the House has to stand on 16. They were too likely to bust after that.

But this was a cool game, and I do not hate the dealer at all as some others do. Your hard work has paid off.
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby 4ofSwords » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:00 pm

Just had a chance to play it, and I think this is really well done! I really appreciate the model of paying for it yourself up front and asking for donations after.

Well done!
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby vore2412 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:49 pm

Schpadoinkle wrote:
Reaverbot wrote:Gotta say, I don't think I've ever despised a character in a vore game as much as the dealer in this after fruitlessly trading wins back and forth for an hour with her


This, oh god this.

I just spent 20 minutes getting her down to $10 only to lose the hand, and then winning the next one. Over. And. Over.

Also if you have a 20, she will have a 21 100% of the time.

Seriously. I know what you said earlier about what is or isn't statistically probable, but some of the shit she pulls and how often it happens is completely improbably by any possible metric.


That's just really bad luck man, I've played this game multiple times and the gambling is very similar to real Casino gambling (absent the other players that can completely change the luck). I've had nights in casinos where I couldn't lose no matter what I hit or doubled, and I've had nights where, playing strictly by basic rules of blackjack, I've lost every hand. One thing to learn how to do playing is count the cards, there are four of each card in a 52 card deck, the chance's of drawing any card starting is less than 8%, its pretty simple to figure out the probability of drawing a particular card or having that card as a hole card by paying careful attention to whats already been used.
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby nex12334 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 3:13 pm

I personally love this game I just wish it had more sounds... kinda like a stomach noise after she eats you and a swallow noises, but regardless great game and I look forward to your future work ;)
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby martyr » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:05 pm

Love the art, and the blackjack implementation is solid. I wish the ending continued after the big belly pic, but I can't remember if you're into digestion or the aftermath thereof... Probably hard to get the artist to do that anyway.
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby DjConnorJ » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:10 pm

Can someone show me the pictures of when you win and lose please?
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Revx_Z » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:14 pm

DjConnorJ wrote:Can someone show me the pictures of when you win and lose please?

Here's one of them, when you are about to eat Raven feet first. The $862 is because of a bug where money sometimes disappears. There's a series of pictures with a little animation, which you can play to see for yourself. Type "hint" and press Enter to get hints on what to choose.
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Schpadoinkle » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:32 pm

So what's this about secret pictures? Bright and I never got an answer about that. Apparently they're supposed to trigger if one of you get down to $50 and win? But I did that on both sides and got the same win/lose images.
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby DjConnorJ » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:41 pm

Revx_Z wrote:
DjConnorJ wrote:Can someone show me the pictures of when you win and lose please?

Here's one of them, when you are about to eat Raven feet first. The $862 is because of a bug where money sometimes disappears. There's a series of pictures with a little animation, which you can play to see for yourself. Type "hint" and press Enter to get hints on what to choose.
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Have you got any of the vore ones i cant play this for a week and im anxious to know what they look like as someone said something about a big belly
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby ShadesofBlack » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:13 pm

nex12334 wrote:I personally love this game I just wish it had more sounds... kinda like a stomach noise after she eats you and a swallow noises, but regardless great game and I look forward to your future work ;)


Funny thing I've noticed, there are some really fun artists and programmers here that are making things with good visuals, but no sounds. And then there are a few people making things by just adding cool sounds, like this: viewtopic.php?f=56&t=41622
I wonder if it would be possible to put these talented efforts together?
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Re: Ultimate Blackjack

Postby Schpadoinkle » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:16 pm

nex12334 wrote:I personally love this game I just wish it had more sounds... kinda like a stomach noise after she eats you and a swallow noises, but regardless great game and I look forward to your future work ;)


Swallow noises as you gulp her down and maybe a belch once she's gone would be amazing too.

Edit: also please fix the reset button. It literally does nothing.

Also it would be nice to have an easier way to get to the scenes. 40 minutes of back and forth only to have her get several 21s in a row and you lose is not fun at all.

Also that bug where if you tie on a double is still there. $50 vanishes from the game every time.
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