Unofficial SSVM

by **Happers** » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:15 pm

Hey so I decided to goof around and upgrade the vore mod's human npc, partly because it was a very simple base, partly because its a very vanillla npc so a good number of people can enjoy it, and partly because of EngilbertSig3 's comment.

There's actually a lot of different things you can do with npcs, some of the things I did with the human npc:
-Simple vore animation, nothing crazy, just three frames, but I like how it turned out
-Cutebound eyes, They're a lot better for expressions, optional classic starbound eyes included in the download if you don't want that
-Different dialogue depending on whether or not you requested to be eaten, for both eating, and the idle dialogue, I did my best to keep it somewhat generic due to the npc just being "generic human" (credits to the maker of the cecaelia npc)
-Dialogue for when you "rub" the human vore npc (as in, requesting to be eaten when they're full) (credits to the maker of the alsnapz npcs)
-the ability to hold two npcs in the stomach, not really anything special, a lot of npcs have it, but its worth mentioning.
-digest, and non-digest versions, both will have some differences in dialogue

Though some notes:
-Technically the npcs are a different tenant from the vanilla SSVM human npc, I couldn't figure out how to make the animations work with four different head types, not a big deal in practice, the different head types all have a chance to spawn they still spawn with the same requirements
-The npcs can be "male" as in using male names and male interact noises, from what I understand this is an issue with starbound's tenant system
-For some reason npcs with multiple vore capacities tend to respawn randomly when holding more than 1 victim, I've noticed this with any SSVM npc and don't know the cause, but it doesn't happen often in my experience
-I only made the clothed variant of the SSVM human, I'm not really willing to go through and fill out the nude version and unbirth version

Its actually really easy to make somewhat complex vore npcs I'm surprised a lot of them are so simple, I could make a small guide if anyone wants.

Download is here: https://mega.nz/#!uo03AKDJ!6fl8N1r7W4ul ... M0K9VH4f-o

by **NotTadpole** » Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:46 pm

Ooh, that sounds interesting! Do you think they could be made compatible with the Job Offers mod, so we could have crew members that occasionally nom us? Or is that impossible to implement?

by **Happers** » Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:02 pm

NotTadpole wrote:Ooh, that sounds interesting! Do you think they could be made compatible with the Job Offers mod, so we could have crew members that occasionally nom us? Or is that impossible to implement?

Honestly, I'm not amazing at coding, I'm just making use of the resources given to us, something like that might not be impossible, but it's something someone with a decent knowledge with coding would have to take on.

If anyone's interested they'd have to:
- get the job-offers mod to accept SSVM npcs
- making new sprites since crew members change outfits and make it use the custom sprites instead of the default (might be difficult if crew outfits are hard coded into the crew member code)
- possibly find some solution for the "use" key being used for both crew member orders and SSVM stuff
- and add some extra fluff to keep them from eating while in bad situations like fighting, checks and timers and what-not

That's on top of whatever errors would pop up while making that, but for now you'd have to settle with just spawning them onto your ship as tenants, from my experience that works just as well, sorry.

by **NotTadpole** » Thu Aug 29, 2019 9:27 am

Happenpeak wrote:Honestly, I'm not amazing at coding, I'm just making use of the resources given to us, something like that might not be impossible, but it's something someone with a decent knowledge with coding would have to take on.

If anyone's interested they'd have to:
- get the job-offers mod to accept SSVM npcs
- making new sprites since crew members change outfits and make it use the custom sprites instead of the default (might be difficult if crew outfits are hard coded into the crew member code)
- possibly find some solution for the "use" key being used for both crew member orders and SSVM stuff
- and add some extra fluff to keep them from eating while in bad situations like fighting, checks and timers and what-not

That's on top of whatever errors would pop up while making that, but for now you'd have to settle with just spawning them onto your ship as tenants, from my experience that works just as well, sorry.

It's entirely understandable, don't worry. ^^;

I don't know about getting Job Offers to accept SSVM NPCs, but the crew outfits can be changed; I know a mod that completely removes the default crew outfits to ensure they retain their previous clothes, as well as buffing Tailors to grant more options to crew dress codes (including restoring said original outfits), so it means it's possible to accomplish that. As for the "use" key and not being eaten in bad situations, this could be worked around by requiring the player to hold one of the vore badges before interacting with the crew member in order to be properly eaten. This could lead to wonderful scenarios like a crew member safely tucking their wounded captain inside their gut while handling a nasty firefight all by themselves. ^^;

by **Happers** » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:42 pm

NotTadpole wrote:It's entirely understandable, don't worry.

I don't know about getting Job Offers to accept SSVM NPCs, but the crew outfits can be changed; I know a mod that completely removes the default crew outfits to ensure they retain their previous clothes, as well as buffing Tailors to grant more options to crew dress codes (including restoring said original outfits), so it means it's possible to accomplish that. As for the "use" key and not being eaten in bad situations, this could be worked around by requiring the player to hold one of the vore badges before interacting with the crew member in order to be properly eaten. This could lead to wonderful scenarios like a crew member safely tucking their wounded captain inside their gut while handling a nasty firefight all by themselves.

- The job offers thing might just be a line of code somewhere, probably some sort of safety in one of the scripts to make sure nothing breaks with modded npcs.

- That crew outfit mod would work as far as I can tell, especially since its just personal content.

- for the holding item to request vore thing, I think there's code like that somewhere in starbound, maybe in vanilla, maybe in one of the mods, but I have no where to even start looking for that, unless someone knows the specifics, it'd probably look something like "if ____ itemname then" underscore being whatever code translates to holding items.

- The vore as a combat mechanic thing is doable, I know there's code for eating based on health in "pred_rake" 's file, might have to make sure it uses a status effect that'd make you not take damage, and maybe heal, and I wonder if it's possible to make npcs eat enemy npcs :gulp:

, I remember ImaginaryZ mentioning VSOs eating monster npcs in a tweet, I wonder if anything ever came out of that.

Looking at all this it seems pretty possible on paper, it'd just take a bit of time to put together, making sure every works correctly, and making sure there's no unforeseen incompatibilities with job offers, or even other mods like frackinuniverse, but that would just be worst case scenario.

by **MiegaFox** » Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:00 am

Happenpeak wrote:- for the holding item to request vore thing, I think there's code like that somewhere in starbound, maybe in vanilla, maybe in one of the mods, but I have no where to even start looking for that, unless someone knows the specifics, it'd probably look something like "if ____ itemname then" underscore being whatever code translates to holding items.

the way the forced eat mechanic works is if the player interacts twice with the target npc with in 1 second or less it toggles the scrips activation, (if not eaten then eat, if eaten then release) when this is done the 'eaten target' is marked as both "willing" and "prey", some preds like rake who have the personality scripting will say different things based on if the player 'requested' or not, to be eaten.

i think its something like: (its been a long time since i did any scripting)

Code: Select all: if talkTimer < 1 then talkTimer = talkTimer + dt end

this can be carried over to crew as well, where interacting with them once would proceed as normal but twice in a second or two (ie; double tap interact on an npc) would have them proceed to eat the player, medics could run a similar check script to rake where if player HP is below a specific % they will attempt to eat and heal, releasing automatically once fully healed or by request, also to note, there are two npc's that already exist that act as friendly guards (kazdravinderex & kazdravoxren) who can eat at random, by chance or on request, yet also still fight and attack hostile npc/mobs, so the initial idea of the crew with the ability to vore is actually alot easier to do then to write a new system that requires an item to be held or in ones inventory, which just having the item in ones inventory is actually possible too as done by some other mods regarding "key cards".

http://rp.aryion.com/profile/Jean_Marcel · by **bonberjean** » Sun Sep 08, 2019 6:49 pm

MiegaFox wrote:this can be carried over to crew as well, where interacting with them once would proceed as normal but twice in a second or two (ie; double tap interact on an npc) would have them proceed to eat the player, medics could run a similar check script to rake where if player HP is below a specific % they will attempt to eat and heal, releasing automatically once fully healed or by request, also to note, there are two npc's that already exist that act as friendly guards (kazdravinderex & kazdravoxren) who can eat at random, by chance or on request, yet also still fight and attack hostile npc/mobs, so the initial idea of the crew with the ability to vore is actually alot easier to do then to write a new system that requires an item to be held or in ones inventory, which just having the item in ones inventory is actually possible too as done by some other mods regarding "key cards".

could an augment be used instead? having an additional key to interact should give it more options in the same npc or object

by **MiegaFox** » Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:28 am

bonberjean wrote:
could an augment be used instead? having an additional key to interact should give it more options in the same npc or object

maybe... I dont know enough regarding LUA scripting to say it Can or Cant be done... though i wouldn't be surprised if someone's already added additional keybinds for players, it would just be a matter of having NPC scripts pick up on that keybind being used... i know some mods for vehicles have additional keybinds for extra functions/attacks, but thats vehicles, something of its entire own class, though i would say its probably easier using the 'double tap interact' on npc's, if anything...

by **ooglethorpe5** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:28 am

Checking in to see if progress on this is being made.

by **Vinderex** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:06 am

Is the mod's forum still active? I tried registering for it quite a while ago, but apparently an administrator needs to activate it.

by **seth270** » Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:16 am

not sure Vin nothing's been posted in a while

by **Vinderex** » Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:59 am

Hey! So I found a bug!
Apparently this mod somehow conflicts with the vanilla game's Peacekeeper quest line. Any time a target offers a bribe, they instantly die when interacted with, making the quest impossible to complete.

Here's my log. I quit the game immediately after it happened this time, so the important part should be near the end.

Spoiler: show

EDIT: I found that the problem is related to the VSO/SPOV addons. Only having the base mod installed doesn't cause the problem.

Fur Affinity · by **ImaginaryZ** » Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:17 pm

Hm, weird that none of those scripts are anything that we've edited; this is probably related to some stupid 'optimization' done on empty lua scripts since we attempted to add extra injections into NPC's but its just blank for now. I bet the blank script is getting called and its breaking starbound; but it'll require a lot more digging.

Can you try it again and post the starbound.log file or at least the parts with the [Error] stuff?

I'm not really working on starbound atm though so I dont know when I can get to it.

by **NotTadpole** » Wed Nov 13, 2019 1:20 pm

Hope you folks don't mind me reposting this old question I asked back in June, but since it went by unanswered...

NotTadpole wrote:Hey Sheights, I've been noticing that there's a lot of SPOs and VSOs that you were previously making, but that you abandoned without ever releasing. One of them includes a frog briefly seen in the VSO trailer that I previously mentioned, and there's also a whole array of SPOs and VSOs seen in this tumblr post that simply aren't present in the mod's release. Is there any chance we'll ever see them in the mod itself? I hunger for more VSOs to play with... especially VSOs that can walk.

I also really hope the person who made the base for this VSO decides to finish and release it someday.

Nevermind the frog, I already managed to re-create that one; what I'm most curious about is this blue lizard VSO that looks better than the dino we got (at least in my opinion), and apparently is able to walk just like the Pakkun Lizard:

Additionally, what happened to the promised ship pets, and this shining example of one complete with shrinking? Also, is there a discord server for this mod? It feels like it's very hard to reach and speak to the developers of this mod.

by **Sheights** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:33 am

I'm here. No one really tries to talk to me about stuff.

by **NotTadpole** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:09 pm

I wasn't sure if I should've PMed or not, so I just opted to ask in this thread since other developers could also chime in if necessary...

But, well, anyway, what about my question regarding those VSOs and ship pets?

by **Happers** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:28 pm

I'm a bit curious about those old VSOs as well, were they close to being game-ready or were they just made for showcasing and testing?

Fur Affinity · by **ImaginaryZ** » Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:49 pm

I made the frog, and the anthro komodo, the SPOV/VSO toolkit, and a number of others. Most of them are not in an acceptable state. Starbound is very buggy and has issues. There are many awesome projects that get started but not finished because of technical hurdles.
Due to the amount of negative comments and unpleasant feedback received when posting unfinished work, there is no current incentive to post it.
I don't know how to resolve this problem. It persists in other fields too, like my *ftr work.
I do think the best option would be to update the actual source on the git, and not make 'releases' until finished, making it harder for people to use the beta content, and hopefully reduce problems. Perhaps there is a way to patreon this into being fixed. I don't know.
I don't have a good solution, and it would take a community to find a way to fix this (IE self moderated).

However, if you are DOING ACTUAL WORK (and can prove it), you can ping me and I would be more than happy to help people that are willing to put in the work to make SPOV's / VSO's, I can't do everything myself. A number of awesome people have done this and made amazing things, in queue.

by **NotTadpole** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:55 am

Ah, that's understandable. I'm truly sorry about the negative backlash you received. :/

by **Sheights** » Fri Nov 15, 2019 2:26 pm

I'm not in charge of that stalker ship pet. Looks like someone else wanted to make it.
Ship pets in general I got some sprites but I don't think it's enough.

I guess I can try to get that update out but I am horribly busy these days.

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