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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Grimbug » Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:44 pm

sizehunter wrote:Oh, modification on the giantess idea... They can show up if you have 7 or more monster girls, but instead of it being a problem, you can choose to feed them to the bigger monsters for those super rare items. This could be a way to get rid of sick girls without profit loss, as they're a liability anyways. However, the big gals are rare even when you meet the criteria.

not a bad idea for a stop by event but to keep with the theme of monsters I'd suggest Bigfoot stop over and randomly impregnates a monstergirl giving the new monster increased stats.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby DarkPinkie » Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:36 pm

Sulac wrote:EDIT THE SECOND: I AM FIRMLY OF THE OPINION THAT THIS FORUM'S POLL CODE IS COMPLETELY FUCKED. IT KEPT DUPLICATING OPTIONS EVEN AFTER I DELETED THEM???

I know right? I had the very same issue when I was setting up a poll on Pred Coliseum. Hence why we're using strawpoll until the poll code have been fixed.

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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Grimbug » Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:18 am

is there anyway we could lower the gestation period because it feels like a really long wait from pregnancy to conception. :?

Oh and one more thing before I forget does the hair color of parents effect the new monster?

also I noticed that some of the girls are hungrier then others after feeding them full and then the same amount consistently was this on purpose or just a happy accident?

p.s sorry about all the questions and requests. ^^;
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby VLover552 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:59 am

Beeding to my knowledge has no effect on the new monster since you could have parents of the same color make a new monster with new colors neither of the parents have
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Grimbug » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:03 am

VLover552 wrote:Beeding to my knowledge has no effect on the new monster since you could have parents of the same color make a new monster with new colors neither of the parents have


thanks man that was bugging me because I got 4 out of five with the a same hair when two of the same were breeded.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Orosaki » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:06 am

Grimbug wrote:
VLover552 wrote:Beeding to my knowledge has no effect on the new monster since you could have parents of the same color make a new monster with new colors neither of the parents have


thanks man that was bugging me because I got 4 out of five with the a same hair when two of the same were breeded.


If variables are done right breeding two individuals could be made so the offspring has similar features to the parents.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Turbotowns » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:16 am

Weird idea... Feeding the bullboys cowgirl milk eventually develops their own "udders", and they start producing milk as well.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Sulac » Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:40 pm

I am quickly realizing that a ton of spritework needs to be done for this next update. So I'm sending out a call: Would anyone be willing to assist with spritework for this game? I can send you the sprites that I've been using as a base, as well as the sprites I've already made to be used as a reference. I primarily need help spriting monster girls for the beauty contest: striking poses and whatnot. I'm willing to accept multiple spriters; anything to help speed this along. Send me a PM if you're interested!

Grimbug wrote:is there anyway we could lower the gestation period because it feels like a really long wait from pregnancy to conception. :?

Oh and one more thing before I forget does the hair color of parents effect the new monster?

also I noticed that some of the girls are hungrier then others after feeding them full and then the same amount consistently was this on purpose or just a happy accident?

p.s sorry about all the questions and requests. ^^;


Gestation was originally going to be half as long as what it currently is, but I realized that would probably result in a lot of money very quickly. With Mermaids alone, it would've been at least 5k every 5 days (and higher, as the parents' stats slowly increased from feedings)!

No, hair color (and skin tone, and all appearance attributes) are completely random. As noted, I probably could program it so the parents influence the child's appearance, but that's a slightly low priority at the moment.

Okay, so: Monster Girls have a unique "metabolism" stat that is randomized within a certain range, just like their base stats (Strength, Agility, etc...). Lamias in general have a slower metabolism than the other monster girl types, but there is indeed a slight variance in how "hungry" monster girls are. There is currently no way to influence the metabolism stat after the monster girl has been generated.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby sizehunter » Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:04 pm

Grimbug wrote:
sizehunter wrote:Oh, modification on the giantess idea... They can show up if you have 7 or more monster girls, but instead of it being a problem, you can choose to feed them to the bigger monsters for those super rare items. This could be a way to get rid of sick girls without profit loss, as they're a liability anyways. However, the big gals are rare even when you meet the criteria.

not a bad idea for a stop by event but to keep with the theme of monsters I'd suggest Bigfoot stop over and randomly impregnates a monstergirl giving the new monster increased stats.


Why not both, with bigfoot being ultra rare, but with massive stat gains for the baby.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Grimbug » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:15 am

[quote="Sulac"]I am quickly realizing that a ton of spritework needs to be done for this next update. So I'm sending out a call: Would anyone be willing to assist with spritework for this game? I can send you the sprites that I've been using as a base, as well as the sprites I've already made to be used as a reference. I primarily need help spriting monster girls for the beauty contest: striking poses and whatnot. I'm willing to accept multiple spriters; anything to help speed this along. Send me a PM if you're interested!
[quote="Sulac"]

I would be interested to help but it might be better to set up another forum for this what do I need to create sprites?

p.s. I believe having a cowgirl cafe would brighten up the town a bit.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby DollyFailFail » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:22 am

I mean, I'd be willing to try, I'm okay at editing sprites and I've got all the time in the world for the foreseeable future. Just, don't expect me to do well if I have to create an entirely new sprite. As long as it continues being Stardew Valley edits and the like I'll be fine though.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Rodentai » Fri May 04, 2018 7:17 am

I tried this out and I think I may have a couple ideas.

-Milking Cum from Bullboys- Ok, so you successful bred and got a Boy. You proceed to breed back to the mother and she is now pregnant again. So, now the 14 day wait to see what comes out. 14 days till she will need to be bred again. 14 days of taking care of the bull. 14 days... of nothing much. Feed him off? No, he's far more valuable as you can't buy him. Sell him? Maybe, but if you don't get another boy, it's a minimum of 1250 gold to pay two guys to impregnate your both of the girls, assuming it works the first time. Keep him? But, I have to feed him, and he makes no money for me.
That's where his balls "come" into play. Their semen must be worth something decent at least.
Basically, every two days, you can collect cum from the bull and it's worth anywhere from 80 minimum to 150 gold max. 2 days because it counts as a breeding period. If desired, it can be fed to the girls for a little hunger relief but a good happiness boost('cause monster-girls and semen mix, am I right?)
In addition, Harpyboys can also give feathers, Nagaboys give scales, and all boys can be milked.

-I have a penis and desires...right?- I can't be the only one feeling cucked. Seriously, I hired a guy to have sex my monsters, go home, and see him and the cowgirl down and dirty in the barn or sitting in a tree F-U-C-K-I-N-G my harpy, or coiled up with my lamia, or swimming with Ariel and showing her his "little mermaid". Your character certainly knows the risk, but still.
Maybe you could breed with one monster a day. It's cheaper and you don't have to pay or wait on a monster boy. Now, that where danger can come in. If the girl is not happy enough with you, she may eat you. So, you'll have to keep her happy(with cum perhaps? Even Bull semen?)

-Cowgirl become preds- They already can be fed steak and salmon. Why would she not eat someone? Maybe it's because lately I'm been dreaming about Taurus predators(not taurs, things like Minotaurs, Holstaurs, etc), but I wasn't upset when I couldn't feed the cowgirl one of her own.

-Lower Gestation times- I agree with Grimbug. 2 weeks is far to long. If you really want to know, 2 weeks is good for the Mermaids, but I think that other, less expensive girls should take less time. I still want pred cows, but if you really want them as a food source as I believe you intended them to be, 2-3 day should be long enough. Harpies take 5-7, Lamias 8-11. Basically, the more expensive the girl, the longer the gestation period.

-Farming?- A long time from now, maybe adding in farming to make a little more money. I know this is not Harvest Moon, or Rune Factory, but Money is my largest issue.

Small things
-Sprinting- Gotta go fast!
-Catgirls and Doggirls- Generic, but cute. Maybe a domestic pet?
-Different stomach sizes- Would have to make some sense, but could lead to some strategies for money making and monster caring. Varying sizes(this harpy has a bigger gut than this other harpy) could be done at your will.
-More food and Different food effects- It maybe more beneficial to feed a harpy steak and salmon as opposed to apple and ramen and maybe a lamia would want a rabbit sometimes.

That's it. You've done a good job so far. I especially like that the boys can also eat the girls or other boys(Had my harpyboy eat bullboy just to test it, and made him breed on a full stomach. It's was the hottest thing I've done in a while.) Considering you still have the female pronouns when you click "Check", it leads me to believe that this was not intended. But, I like nonetheless as the lack of male preds bothers me. I still love female preds but I want more male ones and I thank you for giving me the option. And I know that is an odd thing to bring up, but I'm just praising for not falling into the "female pred only"trap.

Thank you for reading and I hope you continue with this game and you finish it as we have a problem with that on the indie porn game front.

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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby DollyFailFail » Fri May 04, 2018 7:55 am

Cowgirls and Bullboys can eat other monsters, but they need to be very low on hunger before they would do so. Like 25% hunger or less as far as I can tell.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Monk5Ds » Sun May 06, 2018 10:43 pm

This bug occurs When a lamia is pregnant and the egg hatchs.

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gml_Object_obj_bed_Draw_64 (line -1)

) Do you know what is causing this?
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Turbotowns » Mon May 07, 2018 2:21 am

Rodentai wrote:-Milking Cum from Bullboys-


A more rational(and less perverted, amazingly) idea than mine.

Rodentai wrote:-I have a penis and desires...right?- I can't be the only one feeling cucked. Seriously, I hired a guy to have sex my monsters, go home, and see him and the cowgirl down and dirty in the barn or sitting in a tree F-U-C-K-I-N-G my harpy, or coiled up with my lamia, or swimming with Ariel and showing her his "little mermaid". Your character certainly knows the risk, but still.
Maybe you could breed with one monster a day. It's cheaper and you don't have to pay or wait on a monster boy. Now, that where danger can come in. If the girl is not happy enough with you, she may eat you. So, you'll have to keep her happy(with cum perhaps? Even Bull semen?)


I believe this was already discussed to possibly be added later.

-Cowgirl become preds- They already can be fed steak and salmon. Why would she not eat someone? Maybe it's because lately I'm been dreaming about Taurus predators(not taurs, things like Minotaurs, Holstaurs, etc), but I wasn't upset when I couldn't feed the cowgirl one of her own.[/quote]

You CAN feed them girls, they just need to be starving, but as you keep feeding them, they need to be starving less and less, effectively training them to become preds.

And, might I say, the cowgirls have THE BEST belly animation yet. ESPECIALLY when fucking, and you get to see that squishy belly from the side.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Grimbug » Mon May 07, 2018 3:30 am

Turbotowns wrote:
Rodentai wrote:-Milking Cum from Bullboys-


A more rational(and less perverted, amazingly) idea than mine.

Rodentai wrote:-I have a penis and desires...right?- I can't be the only one feeling cucked. Seriously, I hired a guy to have sex my monsters, go home, and see him and the cowgirl down and dirty in the barn or sitting in a tree F-U-C-K-I-N-G my harpy, or coiled up with my lamia, or swimming with Ariel and showing her his "little mermaid". Your character certainly knows the risk, but still.
Maybe you could breed with one monster a day. It's cheaper and you don't have to pay or wait on a monster boy. Now, that where danger can come in. If the girl is not happy enough with you, she may eat you. So, you'll have to keep her happy(with cum perhaps? Even Bull semen?)


I believe this was already discussed to possibly be added later.

-Cowgirl become preds- They already can be fed steak and salmon. Why would she not eat someone? Maybe it's because lately I'm been dreaming about Taurus predators(not taurs, things like Minotaurs, Holstaurs, etc), but I wasn't upset when I couldn't feed the cowgirl one of her own.


You CAN feed them girls, they just need to be starving, but as you keep feeding them, they need to be starving less and less, effectively training them to become preds.

And, might I say, the cowgirls have THE BEST belly animation yet. ESPECIALLY when fucking, and you get to see that squishy belly from the side.[/quote]

Spriting is really tedious work not only that but have to have the imagination for it I feel for the creater but we are steadily working thank you for your passion and ideas!! ^-^
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Orosaki » Mon May 07, 2018 8:01 pm

Rodentai wrote:I tried this out and I think I may have a couple ideas.

-Milking Cum from Bullboys- Ok, so you successful bred and got a Boy. You proceed to breed back to the mother and she is now pregnant again. So, now the 14 day wait to see what comes out. 14 days till she will need to be bred again. 14 days of taking care of the bull. 14 days... of nothing much. Feed him off? No, he's far more valuable as you can't buy him. Sell him? Maybe, but if you don't get another boy, it's a minimum of 1250 gold to pay two guys to impregnate your both of the girls, assuming it works the first time. Keep him? But, I have to feed him, and he makes no money for me.
That's where his balls "come" into play. Their semen must be worth something decent at least.
Basically, every two days, you can collect cum from the bull and it's worth anywhere from 80 minimum to 150 gold max. 2 days because it counts as a breeding period. If desired, it can be fed to the girls for a little hunger relief but a good happiness boost('cause monster-girls and semen mix, am I right?)
In addition, Harpyboys can also give feathers, Nagaboys give scales, and all boys can be milked.

-I have a penis and desires...right?- I can't be the only one feeling cucked. Seriously, I hired a guy to have sex my monsters, go home, and see him and the cowgirl down and dirty in the barn or sitting in a tree F-U-C-K-I-N-G my harpy, or coiled up with my lamia, or swimming with Ariel and showing her his "little mermaid". Your character certainly knows the risk, but still.
Maybe you could breed with one monster a day. It's cheaper and you don't have to pay or wait on a monster boy. Now, that where danger can come in. If the girl is not happy enough with you, she may eat you. So, you'll have to keep her happy(with cum perhaps? Even Bull semen?)

-Cowgirl become preds- They already can be fed steak and salmon. Why would she not eat someone? Maybe it's because lately I'm been dreaming about Taurus predators(not taurs, things like Minotaurs, Holstaurs, etc), but I wasn't upset when I couldn't feed the cowgirl one of her own.

-Lower Gestation times- I agree with Grimbug. 2 weeks is far to long. If you really want to know, 2 weeks is good for the Mermaids, but I think that other, less expensive girls should take less time. I still want pred cows, but if you really want them as a food source as I believe you intended them to be, 2-3 day should be long enough. Harpies take 5-7, Lamias 8-11. Basically, the more expensive the girl, the longer the gestation period.

-Farming?- A long time from now, maybe adding in farming to make a little more money. I know this is not Harvest Moon, or Rune Factory, but Money is my largest issue.

Small things
-Sprinting- Gotta go fast!
-Catgirls and Doggirls- Generic, but cute. Maybe a domestic pet?
-Different stomach sizes- Would have to make some sense, but could lead to some strategies for money making and monster caring. Varying sizes(this harpy has a bigger gut than this other harpy) could be done at your will.
-More food and Different food effects- It maybe more beneficial to feed a harpy steak and salmon as opposed to apple and ramen and maybe a lamia would want a rabbit sometimes.

That's it. You've done a good job so far. I especially like that the boys can also eat the girls or other boys(Had my harpyboy eat bullboy just to test it, and made him breed on a full stomach. It's was the hottest thing I've done in a while.) Considering you still have the female pronouns when you click "Check", it leads me to believe that this was not intended. But, I like nonetheless as the lack of male preds bothers me. I still love female preds but I want more male ones and I thank you for giving me the option. And I know that is an odd thing to bring up, but I'm just praising for not falling into the "female pred only"trap.

Thank you for reading and I hope you continue with this game and you finish it as we have a problem with that on the indie porn game front.

~Rodentai


Actually i was thinking bullboys can produce manure which would be useful as fertilizer and something that can be sold. Fertilizer is used to lure and satiate dryads who will produce food items like corn and apples and other stuff you can't buy from the store. Dryads can also produce seeds which can be planted to produce new dryads. Dryad produces food items are different from the store bought ones namely in the fact they are homegrown corn or apples instead of regular ones. Having a higher quality version of it also increase the effect on stats too. Dryads reduce the hunger increase in whatever area they are in (eg cave, grove etc) but are not always able to be put in a location (barn and pond).

It would also be nice if boys didn't show up in the girls section of menus. I mean they are boys not girls.
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby nnnddt » Mon May 07, 2018 8:08 pm

Hi guys,
I have two little questions for the creator of this game :
- Will you add the possibility to hire someone for collect materials every day (because i think it's quite annoying to do 1000 times the same things) ?
- When i goes like day 100, i couldn't make reproduct one of my cowgirls, she was just eating guys i was sending to her. Just bad luck or mechanism ?
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Re: Monster Girl Rancher (v0.2.12 - Breeding Update)

Postby Sulac » Mon May 07, 2018 9:19 pm

Checking in for a progress update and to answer some questions. Most of the tedious spritework is done, which is great. I have quickly grown to hate spriting, and I seriously appreciate Grimbug's contributions on that front. The code to generate contest opponents and calculate winners is done, that's all just straightforward math, really. It's programming the menus and putting together the animations in a way that looks good that's taking all the effort now. Especially when you realize partway through that there's a better way you could've been handling it, and have to junk half your code as a result. >.>

Rodentai wrote:I tried this out and I think I may have a couple ideas. (...)


Even if all your Cowgirls are pregnant, they can still have sex, which gives a happiness boost to both partners. I'm a bit shy on making Bullboy semen a collectable item though. I know this is a fetish porn game, but I have limits!

You are far from the first person to suggest breeding with Monster Girls yourself, and until it's actually added, you likely won't be the last, either. At this point the only thing holding me back from it is the idea of spriting animations of the various monster girls eating you afterwards. I guess I could take the lazy way out and just fade to black before the voring happens...

As others have noted, cowgirl preds are already in.

Pregnancy times I feel is a side-effect of not having much of anything to do yet. I'm gonna keep them as they are after the breeding update, but if they still feel too long, I'll see about shortening them.

Actual farming is a very strong "probably never", sorry.

I felt like the movement speed was fine now, but I guess sprinting can be a thing.

Catgirls and Doggirls will likely be coming in the future.

Different belly sizes will require more spritework and ugh.

Different food items raise stats in different amounts already. Maybe I should make a big document that details all the gameplay mechanics...

Monk5Ds wrote:This bug occurs When a lamia is pregnant and the egg hatchs. (...)


The game's trying to display a sprite that doesn't exist? If you can reproduce this bug, click "Ignore" when the error message pops up. The game should advance forward a step, try to render the sprite, and then spit the error out again. Get a screenshot of whatever the game ends up displaying. That'll help me figure out what's wrong.

Orosaki wrote:Actually i was thinking bullboys can produce manure which would be useful as fertilizer and something that can be sold. Fertilizer is used to lure and satiate dryads who will produce food items like corn and apples and other stuff you can't buy from the store. Dryads can also produce seeds which can be planted to produce new dryads. Dryad produces food items are different from the store bought ones namely in the fact they are homegrown corn or apples instead of regular ones. Having a higher quality version of it also increase the effect on stats too. Dryads reduce the hunger increase in whatever area they are in (eg cave, grove etc) but are not always able to be put in a location (barn and pond).

It would also be nice if boys didn't show up in the girls section of menus. I mean they are boys not girls.


Interesting ideas. I'll keep them in mind for the future.

Also, the menu option is a bit of a holdover from when the game didn't have Monster Boys at all. Maybe I should reword it...

nnnddt wrote:Hi guys,
I have two little questions for the creator of this game :
- Will you add the possibility to hire someone for collect materials every day (because i think it's quite annoying to do 1000 times the same things) ?
- When i goes like day 100, i couldn't make reproduct one of my cowgirls, she was just eating guys i was sending to her. Just bad luck or mechanism ?


Hiring someone to collect items for you is an idea that's been suggested before. I'm considering how to best implement it, though.

What's your cowgirl's Health like? Starving them to make them preds has the side-effect of causing their Health to drop. Pregnancy chance is based entirely on the girl's Health: at 100% Health is a 100% chance to get pregnant, and 50% Health is a 50% chance.

Thank you all again for your feedback and support! It keeps my spirits and morale up!
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