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Postby iasiney » Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:08 pm

Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Vorephiles were hungry for more so they finally go something that may satisfy those appetites. Recently, Schaken mods took over development of Devourment Male and Female from Galmar. Now, the mod will come with a new name of Devourment Remastered.

Schaken himself is working on this mod with Jobobby04. Schaken had this to say about Jobobby04 that, “His expertise in most programs are far beyond mine.” However, Schaken will be doing the most work with Jobobby04 helping out if needed.

Everyone is wondering what Schaken will be doing to the mod. Schaken had this to say, “My goal is really not to remove anything, but to add.” Yet, he will be fine tuning the code and making the core of the program more stable. He said he plans to add a big debugging system and that, if anyone finds bugs, then they can easily follow along and he will be able to communicate using his website to streamline talking with the bug reporter.

Now, Schaken hopes to improve what the regular user will see especially in the overall speed of the mod, “Right now, I greatly improved the dialogue options and how they are handled. The game reloads the plugins, but really loads scripts on call, so I try to put as much work in the plugins as possible.” Schaken said. He went on to explain how each dialogue was calling its own script rather than efficiently narrowing it down to a few. The way things are going to be with each script’s particulars will be less strenuous on the engine, he pointed out.

So, anticipations for the first release of the beta are rampant. Schaken reported it will be released November 20, 2020.

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“It will basically be the same thing everyone has, except with the debugging I put in, which is enabled in the MCM, plus anything I find while I’m in there that needs work that’s obvious, and the dialogue fixes, with proper source codes that are much easier to read, and up to date so other modders can finally have a reliable source to work with and make mods for the new "Devourment Remastered", Schaken spoke.

The preliminary particulars established, most would want to know where to get a copy of the beta when it releases. Schaken explained the full mod will be hosted on his website https://schaken-mods.com/ but that the beta can be acquired from Github and as he says, “...with a caution that some things [may … be currently] being worked on, and some things disabled, possible bugs. I will try to keep the main mod 100% bug free, with a beta version being worked on as we go.”

That set aside, why is Schaken even doing this some have asked. To that, Schaken says he enjoys it. He originally joined the Devourment community to get a feel for it and see if he wanted to get involved with it.

“Its been a really rocky start, but the community as a whole has been nothing but super welcoming and helpful, and the previous owner (Galmar) has been like a best friend to me already, I feel im just helping a huge group of good friends, making this all worth it,” Schaken added.

The question on some minds has some warning about feature creep. That is as Wikipedia and Schaken say is, “Excessive ongoing expansion or addition of new precluded features in a product, especially in computer software, video games and consumer and business electronics.” Yet Schaken assures that he isn’t going to put things in the mod but more to enable to possibilities of putting things into the mod.

“There is a group wanting to add a perk tree for example, I think that would be best for a mod Add-On that I plan on helping make happen as well. But without the proper framework setup, it wont be able to happen. This is where my work will be most appreciated, making anything possible to plug and play with this framework,” Schaken explained.

Well then, some questions could arise about those that have made a mod that uses the previous Devourment Male and Female 1.2.7 and whether it will be compatible with the Devourment remastered. Schaken said definitely and that he will add switches in MCM to turn off male and female [predators] respectively.

“So I think a lot of things will still work, but i am sure others wont, and i will help anyone who wants it to be able to update their patches to work with this. I think being closed minded with a framework like this is the fastest way to watch it die, And I am not looking to see that happen,” Schaken pointed out.

Devourment enthusiasts may ask then about helping out. Schaken said that the best help everyone can give is in debugging and reporting bugs and continued to say, “Usually if people will just speak up, I can fix it. If no one reports anything, I wont know its there. pretty simple.“

As a veteran modder, Schaken weighted in on his time doing that. The old has finally left the way for the new as he put it. The whole modding scene a few years ago was much more toxic and where everyone was in battles over frivolous envy.

“More recently i hear more gratefulness, kindness, and respect than i have ever heard, and this [really] encourages me to keep helping everyone,” Schaken moved on to say.

His old discord server has his golden rule, it is that if he did something for you, be kind enough to stay around and repay it by helping someone else out that needed it someday. “Then my main discord became a place where people go just to get help, its a beautiful thing, I love it,” He commented.

Yes, but how many mods has Schaken worked on. What are the numbers?

“uhhh... honestly over 1000.. I have at least 100 on my PC that i just didn’t like so i never released, some I got distracted and never finished. If i cant put my heart into it, i know others wont be able to love it either, so it gets dropped,” Schaken responded.

The follow up is on the body and outfit changes. While Schaken has things in mind for that, the plans are not set in stone. Yet, when asked about what his plans for that might be he said he will have to consult with his team further because not much can be changed.

This might not be satisfying to most so going back to what’s been on the discord server so upon being asked about the details about using high poly bodies he acknowledged that it is possibly going to be an add-on. His team has a redesigned body they use. Upon which, he technically explained it:

“Instead of the hands and feet having so little poly, and the body having an almost maxed out poly count, we have designed a style that the feet part actually ends at the thighs, instead of the ankles, and the hands part has the entire arms in it instead, making the amount of poly to be much further evenly proportioned. From there we took it another step and the head is now just the face, and the body has included the back of the head, which allow us [much] better [detail] on the face instead of having to focus this needed poly count on the neck and back of the head. “

This would possibly tax some machines that already struggle with Devourment Male and Female he admitted but that it would look much much better.

Overall, though, Schaken expressed he wants to get the core nuts and bolts with the mod smoothed out before he works on add-ons such as the graphics. He is adding simplicity [of the core of it] over a bunch of extra add-ons.

The screenshots of the sneak peak are here:

http://schaken-mods.com/mods/Schaken/Up ... msaSjl.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png http://schaken-mods.com/mods/Schaken/Up ... vK3pHT.png http://schaken-mods.com/mods/Schaken/Up ... crfkV6.png

Schaken commented on those screenshots that the “the female muscles is just a slider. but shows how much more detail we can [...] get in there.”

The mod requirement for sure are much smaller and Schaken says, “There was a serious miscommunication, Most of those mods have no reason to be a master.

There was also a script on the mod that was calling for another mods script that was in a BSA, so you had to have it or this script fails. The sad part is the script as being called for no reason at all, It literally had no purpose.. So i removed that part.” Yet, he is impressed with what the community has done so far with what spaghettiness the code was for the community. He said it is a masterpiece but you can see where others added or removed parts and that’s where it becomes crap.


https://devourment-remastered.fandom.co ... Remastered

Discord: https://discord.gg/ZnxmmjQ

HOW TO INSTALL
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Basic Bare Bones Installation

This is the Basic Installation guide to get devourment up and papyrus logging enabled to allow you to submit bugs that you find in the beta.

This is for Skyrim Special Edition only. Legendary Edition version is upcoming after the special edition version is done.

Installation Video: https://youtu.be/5kA93DenwS8


1. Install Mod Organizer 2: https://github.com/Modorganizer2/modorganizer/releases

2. Create New Instance: Devourment Remastered Bare Bones Install

3. Install SKSE https://skse.silverlock.org/ https://skse.silverlock.org/beta/skse64_2_00_19.7z

4. Install Skyui https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecial ... mods/12604

5. Install Unofficial skyrim special edition patch https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266

6. Install XPMSSE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecial ... /mods/1988

7. Install Racemenu https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecial ... mods/19080

8. Install Fnis. Do not run generate fnis for users. https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecial ... /mods/3038

9. Install Devourment remastered: https://github.com/Schaken/Skyrim--Devo ... Remastered

10. Install Devourment remastered patch: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... _patch.esp

11. Enable Papyrus Logging. Add this to skyrim.ini in MO2 and outside of it.

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

12. Disable Devourment Scanner

13. Run SKSE from Mod Organizer

14. Enable Debug Messages in the Devourment mcm menu. Save your game.

15. Quit and Run

16. Quit and Run

17. Check that logs are appearing. They should appear soon after doing that.

18. Sort Plugins in Mod Organizer

19. Change player gender to Female. Using the console (press the ~ key) type in showracemenu. Male characters do not work at the moment.

20. Save

21. Reload

22. Devour

23. Look at bug reports and report bugs here: https://schaken-mods.com/forums/forum/29-logged-bugs/


Advanced Installation

Follow this guide if you are using non vanilla skins, custom skins, outfits, etc.

Basic Requirements:


Skyrim.esm

SkyrimSE.exe

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

Hearthfire.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esm

SKYUI

SKSE

Requirements for Skyrim: Devourment Remastered




Additional Requirements:


Fuz Ro Doh

Jcontainers SE

All in One(this is also called Address Library for SKSE Plugins)

Engine Fixes(also, make sure to install Part 2, which requires you do drop it into your Skyrim folder manually)

Microsoft Visual C++ Redistributable for Visual Studio 2019

UIextensions

Papyrus Utility SE - Scripting Utility Functions

Finis Behavior SE 7_6 XXL

XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended

Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-

CBBE SMP

HDT SSE Combined Compatability Set

Devourment Remastered BETA Patch


Optional:

FNIS Creature Pack SE 7.0


Please note: Do exercise care when using any other mods and if you are having trouble, step back your mod load by disabling/uninstalling mods one by one until you reach the minimum requirements above to narrow down to the mod that is having the problem.


Papyrus Logging:
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Make sure to add this to your skyrim.ini file to enable papyrus logging:

[Papyrus]

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0

bEnableLogging=1

bEnableTrace=1

bLoadDebugInformation=1

After that is setup then you will need to enable debug messages in the mcm menu for devourment.


BUG REPORTING

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Schaken made a special page on my site just for this. If you see your bug listed, please dont post it for a second time. I will knock out the bugs one at a time.

LINK TO FORUM: https://schaken-mods.com/forums/forum/29-logged-bugs/

LINK TO REPORT BUGS: https://schaken-mods.com/forms/6-devour ... reporting/


NOTES

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This is largely focused on adding a debugging system that makes it easy for Schaken and you to see what is going on. You can open your console to see the reports going in real time, these exact same reports are posting in your papyrus logs as well. It will help Schaken identify what is happening in order when the bugs happen so i can find solutions to them, and make your game better. Not everything is perfect, but it can be as long as you help Schaken find all the mistakes.
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby Slayerhero90 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:49 pm

posting to watch, once i'm ready to figure out why my skyrim is buggy
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby Younger99 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:17 pm

Slayerhero90 wrote:posting to watch, once i'm ready to figure out why my skyrim is buggy

Quoting you for the same reason XD
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby The_Prof » Sat Nov 21, 2020 9:27 pm

Slayerhero90 wrote:posting to watch, once i'm ready to figure out why my skyrim is buggy


because it's a Bethesda game
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby Slayerhero90 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:08 pm

The_Prof wrote:
Slayerhero90 wrote:posting to watch, once i'm ready to figure out why my skyrim is buggy


because it's a Bethesda game


yeah but it's a bethesda game on my system. this one's on me and my two billion mods
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby Jadex » Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:57 pm

Oh sweet! Best of luck to you mate
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby Younger99 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:41 pm

If I may inquire is this only for special edition?
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby PrismaticAria » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:45 pm

Younger99 wrote:If I may inquire is this only for special edition?

I would assume so, seeing as one of the listed basic requirements is "Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch."
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Postby Younger99 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 10:25 pm

PrismaticAria wrote:
Younger99 wrote:If I may inquire is this only for special edition?

I would assume so, seeing as one of the listed basic requirements is "Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch."

Fair point but I'll give it a gamble to be certain.
Edit: Yeah it doesn't work for legendary edition but it was worth a shot XD
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby Wollffett » Mon Nov 23, 2020 12:39 am

Does this have any relation to devourment female and male enabled v1.2.7 or am I just stupid?
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby kongpow » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:52 am

Wollffett wrote:Does this have any relation to devourment female and male enabled v1.2.7 or am I just stupid?

Under install information:

"Also Very Important: Schaken just put in a basic code reduction to what is a stablized version of Devourment and then added in a debugging system. He is working now to build back up what the mod was at least to Devourment Male and Female 1.2.7 standards with everything working there. There's a lot of junk and muck that has been introduced to the mod between version .65c to Devourment Male and Female Version 1.2.7 and that was all worked around since then. The junk and muck will need to be sorted out. So, beta may not be the best choice of words but it is not wrong to call it beta. I would call this a "testing" version meaning you are literally walking into a laboratory as a test subject. You are the guinea pig so it is very important you tell the scientists conducting the test everything you can. In short, this is not an upgrade to Devourment Male and Female 1.2.7. Yet."

"TLDR: The beta version is for debugging right now. It is practically a downgrade but will gradually get to an upgrade. Basically he stripped down the code to where it is degunked as much as possible and then now he is wanting folks to help test it and submit bugs reports to get the features added back in the right way to compare with what Devourment Male and Female 1.2.7 is."


Very ambitious project to say the least, best of luck to you guys in rebuilding it.
Devourment v.65d Legacy Pack

http://tinyurl.com/z3faw96

^^^LINK TO THE DOWNLOAD/GUIDE^^^

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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby Entirely_Logical » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:16 am

Admittedly, the move to a more standardized skeleton is going to boost the mod's compatibility quite a bit but I guess I'll wait to see how things shake out.
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby xnovusalpha001 » Mon Nov 23, 2020 8:11 pm

Is legendary/original edition of Skyrim going to be supported anymore?
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby kongpow » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:31 pm

xnovusalpha001 wrote:Is legendary/original edition of Skyrim going to be supported anymore?


Probably not.
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby Younger99 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:27 pm

kongpow wrote:
xnovusalpha001 wrote:Is legendary/original edition of Skyrim going to be supported anymore?


Probably not.

That's rather disappointing if I may be sincere.
With that said I wish this project the best regardless for the sake of those who use Special Edition.
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby TheMastermind » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:34 am

Is this getting developed because female and male enabled is discontinued?
I can't use it anyway because it conflicts with 3bbb and I haven't figured out how to get that to not ruin my player character.
If this is just a cleaned up version of the original Devourment, then I might very much download it, but if it's redoing everything in female and male enabled I might avoid it.
C'mon I know you're thinkin' about it >)-(<
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby iasiney » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:57 am

xnovusalpha001 wrote:Is legendary/original edition of Skyrim going to be supported anymore?


After the special edition is done. They will come back around and work on legendary edition.
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby iasiney » Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:59 am

TheMastermind wrote:Is this getting developed because female and male enabled is discontinued?
I can't use it anyway because it conflicts with 3bbb and I haven't figured out how to get that to not ruin my player character.
If this is just a cleaned up version of the original Devourment, then I might very much download it, but if it's redoing everything in female and male enabled I might avoid it.


Yes, it is an attempt to clean up Devourment. What it turns out to be depends on how much folks help with debugging. Right now it is in beta so expect some bugs but if you want to give it a go please do.
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby iasiney » Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:20 pm

Younger99 wrote:
kongpow wrote:
xnovusalpha001 wrote:Is legendary/original edition of Skyrim going to be supported anymore?


Probably not.

That's rather disappointing if I may be sincere.
With that said I wish this project the best regardless for the sake of those who use Special Edition.


Schaken has said he will go into working on legendary edition once he is done with special edition.
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Re: Skyrim: Devourment Remastered (BETA)

Postby iasiney » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:13 pm

kongpow wrote:
Wollffett wrote:Does this have any relation to devourment female and male enabled v1.2.7 or am I just stupid?

Under install information:

"Also Very Important: Schaken just put in a basic code reduction to what is a stablized version of Devourment and then added in a debugging system. He is working now to build back up what the mod was at least to Devourment Male and Female 1.2.7 standards with everything working there. There's a lot of junk and muck that has been introduced to the mod between version .65c to Devourment Male and Female Version 1.2.7 and that was all worked around since then. The junk and muck will need to be sorted out. So, beta may not be the best choice of words but it is not wrong to call it beta. I would call this a "testing" version meaning you are literally walking into a laboratory as a test subject. You are the guinea pig so it is very important you tell the scientists conducting the test everything you can. In short, this is not an upgrade to Devourment Male and Female 1.2.7. Yet."

"TLDR: The beta version is for debugging right now. It is practically a downgrade but will gradually get to an upgrade. Basically he stripped down the code to where it is degunked as much as possible and then now he is wanting folks to help test it and submit bugs reports to get the features added back in the right way to compare with what Devourment Male and Female 1.2.7 is."


Very ambitious project to say the least, best of luck to you guys in rebuilding it.


I don't believe that's the best explaination so I changed it. I also added more in the original post above.
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