Devourment Refactor

[chefjellyguy]

hey, ive been having a problem ever since i updated the mod. when eaten, the camera will follow the player to where they are stored underground, rather than where the pred is, and the struggle mechanic doesnt work. trying to talk to the predator also doesnt work properly. ive uninstalled and reinstalled the mod and that didn't fix the issue, ive started multiple new games, and ive even disabled all the mods i had installed since the old version, and am still having this issue. any ideas how to fix this?

[Turbotowns]

That's understandable.
(Also I don't expect this "Add-on"(Even if it IS what I'm looking for), to be compatible with Refactor...)

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EDIT:
WAIT! There's loads of instances of vore in public media like cartoons in movies that involve kids! It's not inherently sexual at all! WE just think so because we fap to it!

You can't lawyer your way past this one. Enough people see it as sexual that ACTUAL lawyers will FIGURATIVELY eat us alive in some jurisdictions, including jurisdictions in which some of us live. The fact that the file is hosted on Loverslab doesn't help. Nor do the integrations with SEXlab Framework, SEXlab Aroused, the genital-vore, and the nude over-sexualized bodies provided with the mod.

In point of fact, to me Devourment is a combat mod, not a sex mod -- although I do share in the vore fetish, Devourment doesn't do it for me. I enjoy the game mechanic of the swallowing, escaping, knocking enemies down with the bodies of their associates, etc. Still, it's obvious to me that it's a sex mod. And so my version, shared here, will never feature any interaction with children ever.

In other countries yes, But the supreme court HAS ruled that since it doesn't involve REAL kids, it's not illegal, and the FBI has said to not waste their time reporting drawings, so it's legal in the US at least(but all of that is moot if LoversLab operates out of a foreign country). as for examples for my edit, Mandy from Billy and Mandy was heavily implied to have eaten Irwin at the end of one episode(complete with burp), and chowder in one episode swallowed a ton of stuff(including people) for "safekeeping"(blatantly voraphilic). Neither of those were meant to be sexy. But I guarantee that someone out there found it that way. What you said at the end also makes sense, from another way: you don't find this mod sexy, but functional. Yet you acknowledge that it's made to cater to a FETISH. I know there'll never be kids in this mod, I wasn't trying to suggest it(and yet it'll involve animals...), I'm just trying to defend my niche while also debunk misinformation(Loli being illegal in the US/not allowed on Eka's; Vore being inherently sexy(it happens in nature all the time, animals swallow their prey all the time, and green anacondas can swallow US whole, be careful in the amazon. Even WE wouldn't fap if one ate a person(at least... WE SHOULDN'T))).

That's my 2 cents, I'm done. I probably won't return to this particular thread to talk(just download updates) unless something breaks again. But I think Everything works now(There's still that weirdness with the XMP thing, asking for an OLDER version than the one I have, I'll check back to see if anyone knows what's going on with THAT).

Peace and Peace be with you all. And Stay Safe!

[markdf]

In other countries yes, But the supreme court HAS ruled that since it doesn't involve REAL kids, it's not illegal, and the FBI has said to not waste their time reporting drawings, so it's legal in the US at least(but all of that is moot if LoversLab operates out of a foreign country). as for examples for my edit, Mandy from Billy and Mandy was heavily implied to have eaten Irwin at the end of one episode(complete with burp), and chowder in one episode swallowed a ton of stuff(including people) for "safekeeping"(blatantly voraphilic). Neither of those were meant to be sexy. But I guarantee that someone out there found it that way. What you said at the end also makes sense, from another way: you don't find this mod sexy, but functional. Yet you acknowledge that it's made to cater to a FETISH. I know there'll never be kids in this mod, I wasn't trying to suggest it(and yet it'll involve animals...), I'm just trying to defend my niche while also debunk misinformation(Loli being illegal in the US/not allowed on Eka's; Vore being inherently sexy(it happens in nature all the time, animals swallow their prey all the time, and green anacondas can swallow US whole, be careful in the amazon. Even WE wouldn't fap if one ate a person(at least... WE SHOULDN'T))).

That's my 2 cents, I'm done. I probably won't return to this particular thread to talk(just download updates) unless something breaks again. But I think Everything works now(There's still that weirdness with the XMP thing, asking for an OLDER version than the one I have, I'll check back to see if anyone knows what's going on with THAT).

Peace and Peace be with you all. And Stay Safe!

You realize that most of the world doesn't live in the USA? Like I said, you can't lawyer your way past this one.

First, you can't lawyer your way past this one because it can't be done. I'm resolute on this matter.

Second, YOU can't lawyer your past this one because YOU simply aren't smart enough. Imagine being so hopelessly naive and infantile that you think the US supreme court matters to the other 7 billion of us...

Now I suggest you move on before I say something unkind.

[Macross]

In other countries yes, But the supreme court HAS ruled that since it doesn't involve REAL kids, it's not illegal, and the FBI has said to not waste their time reporting drawings, so it's legal in the US at least(but all of that is moot if LoversLab operates out of a foreign country). as for examples for my edit, Mandy from Billy and Mandy was heavily implied to have eaten Irwin at the end of one episode(complete with burp), and chowder in one episode swallowed a ton of stuff(including people) for "safekeeping"(blatantly voraphilic). Neither of those were meant to be sexy. But I guarantee that someone out there found it that way. What you said at the end also makes sense, from another way: you don't find this mod sexy, but functional. Yet you acknowledge that it's made to cater to a FETISH. I know there'll never be kids in this mod, I wasn't trying to suggest it(and yet it'll involve animals...), I'm just trying to defend my niche while also debunk misinformation(Loli being illegal in the US/not allowed on Eka's; Vore being inherently sexy(it happens in nature all the time, animals swallow their prey all the time, and green anacondas can swallow US whole, be careful in the amazon. Even WE wouldn't fap if one ate a person(at least... WE SHOULDN'T))).

That's my 2 cents, I'm done. I probably won't return to this particular thread to talk(just download updates) unless something breaks again. But I think Everything works now(There's still that weirdness with the XMP thing, asking for an OLDER version than the one I have, I'll check back to see if anyone knows what's going on with THAT).

"Other countries" what makes you think any/all of the people working on this are US based?

You don't need to defend anything, nobody was attacking you. But Mark's comment is exactly the point; this is a fetish mod. It very obviously passes the "know it when you see it" pornography test. Frankly we don't give a damn what you do in your own space, alone or with other legally consenting parties. But none of us are interested in making, or being associated with something that even comes close to the topic of underage content, regardless of legality, we. don't. want. to.

Yeah, the animal aspect may raise questions about bestiality, but the difference between that and underage is like eating a burger vs a toddler in the real world, it just isn't comparable.

[RageofRagaki]

Too lazy to find out how to do spoilers so here is a heypasteit of the papylog. https://www.heypasteit.com/clip/0IW6W0

A note: Papyrus logs are usually useless when it comes to diagnosing a crash. Install .NET Script Framework and it should give you proper crash logs that are more helpful for finding issues.

Ah, I had that downloaded but didn't know where it saved crash logs but I found it. https://www.heypasteit.com/clip/0IW74O The proper crash log.

[zerothx16]

Hey Mark, are you in easy contact with someone who would be willing to finish off the remaining vanilla+dlc creatures? One of these days, you'll move on from the mod and it would be a shame if things like the fire atronach, netch, probably some dragons, falmer and so on never got their morph bellies. I ask because I would be happy to make a list of everything missing.

[ThePuppeteer]

Hi there.

I'd like to begin by thanking you for your work on this mod, lovely to see a resurrection of this mod.

I'm running into a bit of a major issue, and, as much as I try, I cannot find a resolution.

Dialogue doesn't work in terms of the fact that when I to someone about eating them or them eating me, it always ends with them denying it, no matter what. I also do not get situational consumption dialogue.

Any assistance?

[Urielzael2]

Hi - I have several perks suggestions. I hope they are doable.

Predatory strength (can be upgrade to perk removing full penalty) - During any part of absorption (can be digestion of living or corpses) - pred receives bonus of 10% increased speed, 100 armor, 10% dmg and 10% magic resistance and 100 carry weight.

Top of food chain - when forcefully defacing prey in combat enemies becomes scared seeing what pred belly did to someone and they can smell it - applies 10 second fears on lower level enemies in certain area around pred.

Counter nom (can be unlock by prey or pred skills) - perk would give you 50% passive chance that if enemy tries to eat you they will be eaten instead. If passive is to much maybe give like cloak like spell acting for set duration of time.

[Gherking]

Hi there.

I'd like to begin by thanking you for your work on this mod, lovely to see a resurrection of this mod.

I'm running into a bit of a major issue, and, as much as I try, I cannot find a resolution.

Dialogue doesn't work in terms of the fact that when I to someone about eating them or them eating me, it always ends with them denying it, no matter what. I also do not get situational consumption dialogue.

Any assistance?

Even without my or another dialogue mod, there should still be options where they accept. When you check their spells with More Informative Console, do they have the 'predator' spell? If not, you may have forgotten to check 'all npcs' when installing.

[meltingpool]

is there a way to, when getting items out of your stomach, that the items arnt completely all over the place? like for example, I had 20 or so iron ore, but when i regurgitated it, they were all in stacks of 1 and absolutely everywhere. same thing with gold

[Spartanb125]

Feel stupid, but for the life of me I can’t figure out what button it is to chat with your prey/preditor.

[markdf]

Hey Mark, are you in easy contact with someone who would be willing to finish off the remaining vanilla+dlc creatures? One of these days, you'll move on from the mod and it would be a shame if things like the fire atronach, netch, probably some dragons, falmer and so on never got their morph bellies. I ask because I would be happy to make a list of everything missing.

I've talked to people, and there are people who are interested -- but there's never enough time, energy, and motivation to do everything.

Ultimately if it's important to you I would suggest learning how to do it yourself. And I don't mean that dismissively. I really mean that it's in your best interest to learn to do these things, because that's the most likely chance to get the creatures you want, done the way you want.

[markdf]

Hi - I have several perks suggestions. I hope they are doable.

Predatory strength (can be upgrade to perk removing full penalty) - During any part of absorption (can be digestion of living or corpses) - pred receives bonus of 10% increased speed, 100 armor, 10% dmg and 10% magic resistance and 100 carry weight.

Top of food chain - when forcefully defacing prey in combat enemies becomes scared seeing what pred belly did to someone and they can smell it - applies 10 second fears on lower level enemies in certain area around pred.

Counter nom (can be unlock by prey or pred skills) - perk would give you 50% passive chance that if enemy tries to eat you they will be eaten instead. If passive is to much maybe give like cloak like spell acting for set duration of time.

Counter Nom is the most interesting to me. Although it raises an interesting question -- should pred players also have a passive chance to vore in combat, rather than spamming the power key?

[runeguden]

sooo. I have been having problems, I cant seem to get weight gain to work at all, can anyone help?

[Gherking]

Feel stupid, but for the life of me I can’t figure out what button it is to chat with your prey/preditor.

It should be "G" by default.

[BigFudge44]

If I can just say, through all the criticisms and asks and such, markdf you and everyone who worked on this mod really made something super cool and the best working of all such mods I’ve ever seen. I’m sure a little bit of praise would be nice among all the requests and complaints

[zerothx16]

Hey Mark, are you in easy contact with someone who would be willing to finish off the remaining vanilla+dlc creatures? One of these days, you'll move on from the mod :( and it would be a shame if things like the fire atronach, netch, probably some dragons, falmer and so on never got their morph bellies. I ask because I would be happy to make a list of everything missing.

I've talked to people, and there are people who are interested -- but there's never enough time, energy, and motivation to do everything.

Ultimately if it's important to you I would suggest learning how to do it yourself. And I don't mean that dismissively. I really mean that it's in your best interest to learn to do these things, because that's the most likely chance to get the creatures you want, done the way you want.

Well, it's a good thing there are very few creatures left. Obviously not asking for stuff like mud crabs.

I 100% agree but if just anyone had the patience, and talent to make mods and put up with creation engine issues then well that would be an awesome world to be in. Also, I'm not being dismissive either, I have given multiple honest attempts to learn many times since fallout new vegas and I just can't get it to click with me. If Starfield is a good modding-friendly game with Microsoft money put into both the game and its own creation engine ill give it another try so I waste less time trying to fight it and understand the jargon at the same time.

[Urielzael2]

Found bug - after eating Skjor corpse during companions questline and after releasing remains game crashes during any save try

[Turbotowns]

For fucks sake. I wasn't trying to lawyer anything. And I KNOW there are other countries besides the US. I was just saying it's legal in the US(As well as Japan). I'm not naive! You misunderstood me! And I already said I wasn't trying to suggest it get included. I ALREADY TRIED TO MOVE ON! And you've already been unkind! Fuck! Read: "That's my 2 cents, I'm done." Ugh.

BYE! GOOD DAY SIR!

[Macross]

For fucks sake. I wasn't trying to lawyer anything. And I KNOW there are other countries besides the US. I was just saying it's legal in the US(As well as Japan). I'm not naive! You misunderstood me! And I already said I wasn't trying to suggest it get included. I ALREADY TRIED TO MOVE ON! And you've already been unkind! Fuck! Read: "That's my 2 cents, I'm done." Ugh.

BYE! GOOD DAY SIR!

You can choose to walk away from a discussion on a public forum if you would like, but you have no control or authority to prevent other people from responding.

What exactly are you trying to argue here? We all know there are examples of vore in pop culture, this isn't some revelation, and a lot of them are pretty questionable then too (Serlena in MIB2 is an unquestionably sexualized example of vore in pop culture). I mean, there are all sorts of things included in media that are pretty obviously someone's fetish that they've managed to slip in; take the frequent inclusion of feet in Tarantino's work as a good example. The thing you seem to be ignoring is that there are broadly two distinct categories; situations that are obviously sexual in nature to the layman, and situations that involve underage characters. They don't overlap, and on the rare occasions they do, it generally becomes a source of public outrage. Devourment falls squarely into that first category by any reasonable standard, so even following your pop culture example, we'd still be steering far away from kids.

The locational legality of something is a moot point unless it is the location of the host and/or creator. Weed is fine to consume in a lot of places around me, but if I decide to light up a blunt on my porch while a cop walks by, that ain't gonna convince him not to book me.

The only thing we can't understand is why you keep bringing it up. We keep saying your business is your business, but keep us out of it. Yet you insist on returning to a topic that is at best morally questionable, and often downright illegal. Then throw out defenses that are irrelevant to the actual circumstances. I think we've made the position pretty clear; keep it away from us. Why are you so apparently surprised when we react negatively when you fail to do so?