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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby Progressive » Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:56 am

notproudofmypresencehere wrote:I honestly have nothing but respect for the amount of effort that you guys have put into this project, just the word count itself is already straight up astounding, and that's not accounting for the programming side of it, branching side stories, character relationships, creative efforts, personal hurdles, and probably more that you've had to go through to get this far. Thank you so much for making such an amazing story, and best of luck with writing the rest

Thanks! <3

F00dforthot wrote:Hi, great episode (as always, but especially appreciated after last episode as an arachnophobe ^^; ) but I do have 1 question and 1 bug-report

First, the bug-report. I like to collect a gallery of all the scenes in the episode, but one of them is bugged, specifically scene 11.
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Where the lizard champion eats the MC. I followed the scene list to get to it (get smuggled in by Tess and visiting Crest before the dryads) but after the choice about whether or not to read the letter and upon hitting the "Onward" button/choice, I'm met with a black screen with no text. I've tried changing save files, and I've repeated the path to it about 5 times, with each time still glitched. Hope this has an easy fix!

Thank you for the bug report, I'll see if I can replicate and fix the issue.


F00dforthot wrote:Now, with that out of the way, a question about one of the scenes
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Do the snake hair in Athy's scene actually eat/swallow the party or do they all do what Snakob (I think thats his name) did and feed the party to Athy? (or a mix of both) With how its written, at least to me, it seems ambiguous and I'm curious. Appreciate an answer, even if the answer is that its intentionally a mystery :lol:

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Athy's snake hairs eat the rest of the (present) party, and the implication is that the snakes keep them for themselves. MC is special, of course, so you alone get fed to Athy, who apparently doesn't have taste buds which can tell the difference between a mouse girl and a human. :P
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby Phurr » Sat Oct 26, 2024 1:23 am

This is far better than I expected it to be. Mira is adorable and Ashlyn is hilarious. The overall writing is fantastic. I love the variety of the plots for each episode. My favorites so far are the court trial and the wedding. It's far more suspenseful when the MC is alone. It just feels like you're constantly one sentence away from a game over. (Even if the game blatantly and repeatedly told you that you're not in any danger whatsoever. I definitely didn't fall for the multiple red flags in episode 17...) I genuinely cannot wait to see what happens next.
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby 000250006 » Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:30 pm

...

...

I am ... lost for words.

The worldbuilding is amazing, the characters are hilarious, and the writing is ... well let's just say that if there was a Huge/Nebula award for Vore, Another Inner World would not only win it but set the bar higher than Ashlyn licking myconoids for a week.

And poor Tyler ... pretty much in the same position we would - a voreophile's dreamworld and trying not to pant with our tongues hanging out :)
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Vanille got me on my knees

Postby ellothere » Sun Dec 15, 2024 2:29 am

I really like the world, characters and adventure of this game, but I have a problem. I ended up romancing Vanille because of just how nice and competent she was, I wanted to know what was holding that together. At the same time, I'm head over heels at how strong she is so I was kinda surprised by how I'd reached episode 9 without any vore scenes with the real her. Especially, because I felt there was foreshadowing with her discussing how warriors can fight whilst full.

I checked the vore scene guide for a lil' sneak peek and I still haven't recovered. I guess the character's not as suited for me as I thought she would be, having only one pred scene besides the two of the fake her...

I'd like to know if there's much character reasoning behind this, or if it's just a matter of different tastes. Either way, I'd eventually catch up to the game, but it'd take me months to gain back the motivation to play this if I had to abandon Vanille for Mira.

Sorry for this post being pretty negative, just imagine how good of a time I had to make this long-ass post. The slow burn of this adventure is a real nice feeling and I'd hate to see it go for so long.
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby TuckingFypo » Tue Dec 17, 2024 4:04 am

Not anything other than a fellow fan, but i think its because of the character herself. And that vore scenes with her will become more common over time.

She sees it like love, and shes the stereotypical chaste knight. So it takes a while to "get into her pants" on a routine basis, but once you're there, you're set. Just don't expect much public vore with her as she feels like a private person. Pretty much every other girl is a better example of outgoing and unashamed to publicize PDA.
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby GeisKhan » Sat Dec 28, 2024 11:00 pm

Ok, I have to ask because of the tease at the wedding dance, are we going to see more of Aria later?

Also have to ask if Lloriel is a longer term party member and we'll get choices with her in the future (and if she'll be part of the party art).
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby Progressive » Sun Dec 29, 2024 9:31 am

Phurr wrote:This is far better than I expected it to be. Mira is adorable and Ashlyn is hilarious. The overall writing is fantastic. I love the variety of the plots for each episode. My favorites so far are the court trial and the wedding. It's far more suspenseful when the MC is alone. It just feels like you're constantly one sentence away from a game over. (Even if the game blatantly and repeatedly told you that you're not in any danger whatsoever. I definitely didn't fall for the multiple red flags in episode 17...) I genuinely cannot wait to see what happens next.

Thanks! Episode 17 ("The Wedding Episode") is actually entirely safe. There are no game overs at all in the episode—a first for the project!


000250006 wrote:...

...

I am ... lost for words.

The worldbuilding is amazing, the characters are hilarious, and the writing is ... well let's just say that if there was a Huge/Nebula award for Vore, Another Inner World would not only win it but set the bar higher than Ashlyn licking myconoids for a week.

And poor Tyler ... pretty much in the same position we would - a voreophile's dreamworld and trying not to pant with our tongues hanging out :)

Thank you very much! Here's a doodle inspired by your words:
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ellothere wrote:I really like the world, characters and adventure of this game, but I have a problem. I ended up romancing Vanille because of just how nice and competent she was, I wanted to know what was holding that together. At the same time, I'm head over heels at how strong she is so I was kinda surprised by how I'd reached episode 9 without any vore scenes with the real her. Especially, because I felt there was foreshadowing with her discussing how warriors can fight whilst full.

I checked the vore scene guide for a lil' sneak peek and I still haven't recovered. I guess the character's not as suited for me as I thought she would be, having only one pred scene besides the two of the fake her...

I'd like to know if there's much character reasoning behind this, or if it's just a matter of different tastes. Either way, I'd eventually catch up to the game, but it'd take me months to gain back the motivation to play this if I had to abandon Vanille for Mira.

Sorry for this post being pretty negative, just imagine how good of a time I had to make this long-ass post. The slow burn of this adventure is a real nice feeling and I'd hate to see it go for so long.

"Why won't this character I happen to be attracted to bend to my will?"
Have you considered that perhaps you are inedible?
Read through at least Episode 11 before 'abandoning' her.


TuckingFypo wrote:Not anything other than a fellow fan, but i think its because of the character herself. And that vore scenes with her will become more common over time.

She sees it like love, and shes the stereotypical chaste knight. So it takes a while to "get into her pants" on a routine basis, but once you're there, you're set. Just don't expect much public vore with her as she feels like a private person. Pretty much every other girl is a better example of outgoing and unashamed to publicize PDA.

Fascinating dating advice.


GeisKhan wrote:Ok, I have to ask because of the tease at the wedding dance, are we going to see more of Aria later?

Also have to ask if Lloriel is a longer term party member and we'll get choices with her in the future (and if she'll be part of the party art).

Aria is intended to be a recurring character, particularly for players who don't romance any of the main companions (think of her as a 'backup' for moments like the dance where you ought to have a partner but aren't involved romanically enough with any of your traveling companions). Her reappearances are likely to be rare however, so don't hold your breath for too long is my advice.
Lloriel is a permanent, romanceable party member. Her art's done and hopefully she'll be added to the banner in the next update, thank you very much for the reminder~


Next public release (S2E6) should be in January. See you all then!
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby TuckingFypo » Tue Dec 31, 2024 12:46 am

Wewt, looking forward to it. Keep up the great work!
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby F00dforthot » Tue Dec 31, 2024 2:05 am

Progressive wrote:Next public release (S2E6) should be in January. See you all then!


Did you guys manage to fix the bug I mentioned with the lizard champion? Or were you unable to replicate it?

Either way, looking forward to Episode Six! :D
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby GeisKhan » Thu Jan 02, 2025 9:35 pm

Progressive wrote:
GeisKhan wrote:Ok, I have to ask because of the tease at the wedding dance, are we going to see more of Aria later?

Also have to ask if Lloriel is a longer term party member and we'll get choices with her in the future (and if she'll be part of the party art).

Aria is intended to be a recurring character, particularly for players who don't romance any of the main companions (think of her as a 'backup' for moments like the dance where you ought to have a partner but aren't involved romantically enough with any of your traveling companions). Her reappearances are likely to be rare however, so don't hold your breath for too long is my advice.
Lloriel is a permanent, romanceable party member. Her art's done and hopefully she'll be added to the banner in the next update, thank you very much for the reminder~

I figured after the wedding departure she wouldn't be back often, but a man can hope. Plus as Ashlyn said, "She's a theurge! She's perfect for you!" I've only just gotten to the previous chapter in my first playthrough and have stuck with kink crazy Ashlyn, will have to try the other routes after the next update.
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby GeisKhan » Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:50 am

Wow, I finished S2 Ep 5. I had my suspicions,
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about Lloriel because of Sherine's scene at the end of the wedding (and the scolding she got in the morning about being in there the entire day since before Plume asked about her). The Lizard village collateral scene hinted at it too now that I've gone back and tried that route, I'm honestly surprised she didn't give it away then.
but, ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby Phurr » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:57 am

Progressive wrote:Aria is intended to be a recurring character, particularly for players who don't romance any of the main companions (think of her as a 'backup' for moments like the dance where you ought to have a partner but aren't involved romanically enough with any of your traveling companions). Her reappearances are likely to be rare however, so don't hold your breath for too long is my advice.
Lloriel is a permanent, romanceable party member. Her art's done and hopefully she'll be added to the banner in the next update, thank you very much for the reminder~


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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby EricaRain » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:26 pm

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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby Dongers » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:47 pm

I'm sad this came to an end.
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby TheBoy » Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:09 pm

This used to say something else, which, I don't really stand by anymore. Read what Prog and Cheese said and form your own opinion
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby TuckingFypo » Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:22 pm

TheBoy wrote:This used to say something else, which, I don't really stand by anymore. Read what Prog and Cheese said and form your own opinion


Well that absolutely sucks. This was my favorite project on the site. But definitely understand. Appreciate the head's up.
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Another Inner World

Postby Progressive » Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:55 am

I don’t get along with Cheese.

I did once, but after years of conflict, communication just wasn’t working no matter how many new rules and structures we tried to put in place. We were both shitty to one another, and staying together was causing both of us a lot of harm. People can’t always work together. It happens sometimes. And that’s okay. Sometimes divorce is best for all parties.

But you don’t kill the kids in the divorce.



AIW is a project Cheese and I dreamed up together a couple years ago. Early jam sessions were fun as hell, and we laid out the bones (and a decent amount of meat, sinew, and flesh, too) for what would become a great series. Then we poured blood into it and brought it to life.

Since the start, I did all the coding, managed all the accounts—everything is in my name and has my personal details. I managed outside contacts, from beta readers, to artwork and comms. I even worked with another programmer to create a demo for a prospective AIW visual novel. I do the bulk of the writing (I’d estimate Cheese contributed about 35%), but critically I’ve written nearly every sex scene in the entire game, more than my share of the soft oral vore scene, and every non-vanilla vore scene such as AV, UB, Instant digestions, Party wipes, Ashlyn with a straw, etc.

This has been how it is since the first book we wrote together, No Good Deed. I like to write smut, and I’d like to think I’ve gotten pretty proficient at it over the years.

And I didn’t care about bragging about taking on the larger load, publicly or privately. I was more than happy to have both our names on it and to act publicly like we contribute evenly. Cheese contributed some good stuff to the project, and I’m not gonna pretend otherwise.

Feeding an ego didn’t matter to me, because something great was emerging. It still is. Patreon has had 6 updates without Cheese putting down a single word or edit. There’s been zero patron feedback about a dip in quality during this time. Sure, I can’t do as many words each night solo, but there’s been less time wasted on needless arguments and endless relitigations. EricaRain and I have been working hard on the project all the same.



The act of creation is ironically destructive, requiring sacrifice and rewrites and fixes and revisions and death and decay. Improving as a writer is agonizing, and you don’t even notice it happening. Pain is expected.

My working with Cheese was as reciprocally bad as he’s described working with me for at least the last two years. Editing was hostile, contributions were unbalanced.

Cheese is a fine writer, but this project was a challenge for him. I used AIW as a means to learn and grow as a writer, but he never took those opportunities. We always had the exact same problems every month. And conflicts got worse over time. I did more and more of the problem solving.

This is part of Cheese’s statement I want to highlight. I copied it at the time I saw it, so I apologize if it’s been edited since.

"Prog cannot meaningfully distinguish between creative disagreement and personal attack. He can handle it well enough in editing work from EricaRain because he has a layer of detachment (and ultimate creative authority) over the party making the critiques. But I was a co-author, an equal contributor with every bit as much a say in the final product. He couldn’t simply ignore me or brush me aside if he wanted to. I had to be dealt with."

This is a projection from Cheese, yet says everything you need to know about the situation if you just flip the names. No idea of mine could be included in the story if we didn’t spend hours and hours making sure he felt like it was ‘his,’ that he’d conceived of it himself. If I suggested a solution to a problem, that wouldn’t ever be okay on its own, he wouldn’t ever trust or respect that I’m a capable writer. This was nearly every other day by the end of our working relationship.

He always had to be the smartest person in the room. Had to be right, had to pick a fight over every little detail. Cheese is a ‘Rules Lawyer,’ for anyone who plays tabletop games: the guy at the table always seeking to ‘win’ a discussion, the guy arguing in bad faith to always get his way. Someone who asks you to meet them in the middle, and then takes a step back before asking again. It’s insulting and exhausting to be on the receiving end of that.

The cycle was always this: Cheese would be difficult about a topic of discussion. He’d find shelter in his ability to play the victim ad nauseam (see his posts on the discord server). I’d get upset at having to spend hours over a single sentence or concept, and he’d call my reaction villainy. He can’t trust anyone, and it’s impossible to build anything on top of that, it turns out.

I’m sure that his friends have seen this in him, and I’m glad they’re able to tolerate it more than I am.

I was okay with it for a while, too, because I’m capable of compromise, and it was for a greater cause, for this fucking awesome project. But frankly, being mistrusted and disrespected by a colleague for years on end is bullshit.



I’d gotten to the point where opening the doc some nights would cause me a panic attack. It took months of therapy for me to be able to say something and attempt to leave the relationship with Cheese.

Collaborations shouldn’t be like that.

I said so in July. We had a call and I told Cheese that we couldn’t work together anymore, and that I was going to continue on with EricaRain. The next calls were about trying to find a way to have Cheese work as a contracted writer, to do assigned scenes going forward, but he ultimately decided that ‘If I [Cheese] can’t work on AIW, then AIW shouldn’t continue.’

That scared the hell out of me. It was a frightening thing to hear from someone who also claims things like: ‘I love this story and its characters’

I changed the projects’ account passwords to prevent Cheese from killing the project.

And every time we talked after that, it was clear nothing had changed on his end, and any thoughts of reintegrating him would have been bringing back the pain for both of us. A compromise would have been great. Expanding the project to allow for trusted writers to submit scenes to be vetted and edited and included would only have helped production. But there’s no middle ground between us.

I really wish it hadn’t come to this. I wish that we could have worked it out. But ultimately, this is my house, my worktable. I shared it with him for years, then asked him to leave when he repeatedly revealed himself to be bad company.



Cheese is the owner of the discord server. I wasn’t removed when Cheese’s posts there were written, but I was revoked posting privileges and thus made to witness it. Being called a monster and then only being allowed to watch the dogpile is crueler than anything I’ve actually said—Cheese’s ‘recollections’ of conversations are decisively one-sided in his favor.

This was the worst possible way to air our personal problems. I am sincerely apologetic for the public drama.



On a personal note, I was assigned male at birth, but about a year ago I came out as nonbinary. I prefer to be referred to as they/them among those who know me personally. It’s been a life-changing experience, and I’m happier for it. Cheese knows this about me as well. And while I don’t personally care that Cheese misgendered me (‘he’) in all his posts, I do want to put that fact up alongside an anecdote from our working time together.

Lloriel is trans. It’s not a secret, but a reader won’t be explicitly told that until a later episode. When I put forth the idea that she be trans, Cheese was deeply bothered and very uncomfortable. It took weeks to get over it.

Ashlyn is genderfluid, and will present as a guy for at least S2E8, maybe longer. There’s a nonbinary crocodile in S1E10 and a nonbinary demon in S2E2. Rabbeth’oa in S2E5 is asexual. Sherine is a walking slithering allegory as a monster girl. Player pronouns were added way too damn late into the game, but they’re there in Season 2, and I was planning to spend Feb/March updating Season 1 to include them. One of the concessions at the start of the project was to make it Female Pred Only, but I’ve developed greatly as a writer since then, and I’d really love for an AIW visual novel to include the options for all genders to be predators.

This shit matters, even if it can lead to handling things clumsily or being criticized by shitheaded bigots. It’s worth trying. Always. It matters to me, and it matters to others. These characters and ideas are worth exploring and celebrating, and the pushback I received against these things fucking sucks.

Not working with Cheese has made the implementation of these things smoother. And I feel fucking awful for waving them around like this, but a pattern of rejection of queerness is unfortunately recognizable.



Cheese saying the project is on hiatus is false. The truth is that he’s got his finger on the trigger. He wants to see it dead.

If Cheese reveals all the spoilers and future surprises in store for AIW by posting the outline of the rest of the story as he’s said he’ll do, EricaRain and I are uncertain if we would keep producing the project. If you’d like more AIW, tell Cheese to not to publicly spoil the plot, because he won’t listen to me anymore.

Production is fine, by the way. Episode 7 is almost done for patrons, with Episode 6 hitting the public shortly after.

The AIW patreon has been suspended while this is sorted out. Should the project survive the next few days, a new AIW discord server will be set up.


Thanks for reading. I appreciate the chance to be heard.
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Re: Another Inner World

Postby Dongers » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:42 am

Progressive wrote:
Thanks for reading. I appreciate the chance to be heard.
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This does put it more into perspective, but from what Erica wrote, it still seems more like you're trying to push the blame away, because overall everything Cheese said still happened like it did, just that they chose harsher words than necessary.
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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby Quarters » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:58 am

There. I've been waiting to see if we'd get to hear the other side before I made a final decision. It looks like issues on both sides are to blame, and honestly, that's kind of expected. As awesome and helpful as collaborations can be, there will always be some friction and sadly, sometimes the heat gets to be too much for all those involved.

This is my favorite piece of vore media, and certainly my favourite vore game. I would hate to see something so dear to me die. I made my Patreon account specifically to support it and get episodes sooner. One time I even called in sick to work before when a new episode dropped (not a good thing, I know).

Given what I've read on the Discord server and in this thread, I believe that the pair of you both care deeply for this story and these characters. I also believe that working together would not be good for either of your health and would probably lead to a drop in quality or self implosion. I wish you both the best of luck in your future endeavors, and that you both take care of yourselves.

I choose the cowards path and walk the line. My wishful thinking would be that the timeline becomes split and you both take the story and characters in your own directions, but I do understand that that is almost certainly impossible. Either way, I look forward to what you each can do on your own.

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Re: Another Inner World Season 2 Episode 5 - Updated 09/18

Postby Phurr » Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:15 am

I don't use the discord or the patreon so I'm going into this completely blind. And I refuse to take sides on a conflict I know nothing about.

But I do want to say that I love this project. I hope to see it continue.
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