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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby Pyrod » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:04 am

BeoWulf312 wrote:
Pyrod wrote:The actual model is a 685b Mixture of Expert models. You will need either a maxed-out Mac Ultra Studio two or a lot of Nvidia GPUs to run it locally.

Thankfully, there are some Distill versions you can run. If the full one is too much, you can run using some quants if the full one is too much. I prefer fine-tunes that merge the model with others, though.

The lowest recommendation for Vore is the 32b Qwen-based model. Again I prefer the fine-tunes that include it in their merges.

https://huggingface.co/mradermacher/Dee ... CE-v1-GGUF

https://huggingface.co/mradermacher/Q2. ... n-32B-GGUF

These two are fine.


With the EVA version, what prompts worked well for you? The few that I tried so far hits some sort of guardrails.

https://huggingface.co/Konnect1221/The- ... wenception

Download the Qwenception file and load into your ST and See if that works.
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby Komsomol » Mon Feb 03, 2025 7:00 pm

With the new DeepSeek model, I can finally play my with my hand-crafted 120k token dragoness (description and examples take up that much). I've been waiting for this for such a long time. Other models with large context sizes would either produce gibberish or censored results, but I knew the day would come. She plays like a queen, following all the obscure fetishes and guidelines in my huge description.
I recommend the V3 model instead of R1. I tried the R1 and found it to be much worse for ERP in general. Smart people may probably say that I could train something like a LoRA instead of shoving a book into the context, personally I have no time to investigate this because I must play with my dragoness.
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby Kasev » Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:25 am

I'm using Janitor.ai for vore role-playing. It's totally free, and allows NSFW. There are some of vire bots, even my one)
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby Orin » Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:20 am

Komsomol wrote:With the new DeepSeek model, I can finally play my with my hand-crafted 120k token dragoness (description and examples take up that much). I've been waiting for this for such a long time. Other models with large context sizes would either produce gibberish or censored results, but I knew the day would come. She plays like a queen, following all the obscure fetishes and guidelines in my huge description.
I recommend the V3 model instead of R1. I tried the R1 and found it to be much worse for ERP in general. Smart people may probably say that I could train something like a LoRA instead of shoving a book into the context, personally I have no time to investigate this because I must play with my dragoness.

That sounds fun. What are you using to create bots and have so many tokens? A specific website and stuff? I've been a bit out of touch lately.
Here's a list of my Character.AI and Caveduck.io bots: Link
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby 2quick4u » Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:05 pm

Two bots to share

A fun concept that I enjoyed fucking with. An inexperienced pred who wants to try it for the first time, and joined a club to make it happen

https://caveduck.io/character-info/963b ... lHGIrm0uHi
And another one.

A "prey" mouse anthro that pretends to be just that, then acts like a smug bitch after its far too late.

https://caveduck.io/character-info/e2d9 ... lHGIrm0uHi


I may still not be a fan of Caveduck's pricing.model, but so far they've been the most tolerant of Vore and other fetish bots (there's even a fart tag for you Brrrap fans). Provided it's not a blatantly copyrighted character, or the fi
rst image of a character is sexual explicit, the site HATES either scenario.

And hell, you make a bot, and you can get enough free credits coming in to enjoy yourself
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby Pyrod » Tue Feb 04, 2025 3:22 pm

Orin wrote:
Komsomol wrote:With the new DeepSeek model, I can finally play my with my hand-crafted 120k token dragoness (description and examples take up that much). I've been waiting for this for such a long time. Other models with large context sizes would either produce gibberish or censored results, but I knew the day would come. She plays like a queen, following all the obscure fetishes and guidelines in my huge description.
I recommend the V3 model instead of R1. I tried the R1 and found it to be much worse for ERP in general. Smart people may probably say that I could train something like a LoRA instead of shoving a book into the context, personally I have no time to investigate this because I must play with my dragoness.

That sounds fun. What are you using to create bots and have so many tokens? A specific website and stuff? I've been a bit out of touch lately.

I use Claude and a format I created to help make my bots.

You just need to prompt it two times. The first time you prompt it with the format of your choice and ask it that does it understand the format: Yes or no.

In the second prompt, you start listing out the details you want inside the format, like Personality, Body, Clothes, description, etc. Claude will then fill it out for you,
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby Takeshi » Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:02 pm

What version of Deepseek should I use if I want to get the full uncensored experience? The website definitely holds back on NSFW by default, what about the API version? Or would I have to run one of the smaller quantized models locally (well, more likely on a rented server)?
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby Komsomol » Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:54 pm

Orin wrote:That sounds fun. What are you using to create bots and have so many tokens? A specific website and stuff? I've been a bit out of touch lately.

I run SillyTavern locally as a frontend. I initially used OpenRouter to get API access to DeepSeek, but they limited their token window to 16k for some unknown reason, so I just picked one of their providers that support 128k token window (Fireworks AI), got an API access from them directly, and now I use their key and API through SillyTavern.
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby Orin » Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:39 am

Komsomol wrote:
Orin wrote:That sounds fun. What are you using to create bots and have so many tokens? A specific website and stuff? I've been a bit out of touch lately.

I run SillyTavern locally as a frontend. I initially used OpenRouter to get API access to DeepSeek, but they limited their token window to 16k for some unknown reason, so I just picked one of their providers that support 128k token window (Fireworks AI), got an API access from them directly, and now I use their key and API through SillyTavern.

Thanks :D
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby penitent2k » Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:34 pm

So, ChatGPT

Using the reasoning modes (o1 in my case), I got a pretty good guideline of how it judges what it will allow. (Must be adult characters, must have consent, some issues with death but never too clear) It is also far more willing to do terrible things to anthro characters than humans lmao.

Which seems to be less regulation than there was before Deepseek, where any fetish content was blocked. Now it is certainly allowing more as long as you play nice, as in, in the reasoning mode it recognizes it is doing fetish stuff, looks at the guidelines, and then gives the okay, so it isn't exactly being fooled, as it is being lenient.

Then there is the Temporary Chat mode.

It works in peculiar ways. What I notice is that the more the conversation goes on, the more it seems to be stuck in its own world and care less about the rules (within limits).

Vore for example, was far easier after I estabilished that this story was in a world where vore can happen, how digestion happens, and etc. Even for unwilling scenes, which definitely break the consent rule for fetish stuff, and yet, it didn't stop it, it didn't even react with the typical warning x or y might break guidelines.

This is also something I noticed when sharing my TF stories with it to goad it to RP. So with a story of mine where the TF'd person was not happy with her fate, Normal ChatGPT at first or fifth message will give me content guidelines warning. Temporary, at first it will too, but, if its a later message, it just takes it at face value and doesn't even give the warning.

I was able to get some pretty intense digestion scenes out of it in temporary mode, multiple reply long digestion processes, not even flagging when it writes about prey losing clothing to stomach acids and reacting to their nudity, or going all the way with the digestion down to having the prey reduced to waste.

Edit:
Yeah,it definitely gets unhinged the more time it spends in hidden. I wasn't even trying anything, just a passing mention to the possibility of pregnancy, and chat GPT had the character talk about how much she had been having sex with the other character, and no euphemisms, called it fucking, somehow post wasn't even flagged, lmao.
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Re: AI sites and tricks

Postby 4thedegen » Wed Feb 12, 2025 9:56 am

Funnily enough, Chai does a good job too but it needs time to learn
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