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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby Caniption » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:46 pm

I feel like this also fails to address the issue that wars are often fought for some sort of gain, not just something that appears out of the blue.
A group of people has a very fertile tract of land, and you decide you want it. They won't give it no matter what, so violence becomes the only viable solution to it, as an example.
Replacing humans with the current food source, which currently is absolutely more beneficial to developing and large scale societies, doesn't fix that.

Also, how would you reconcile social relations in a world where the person who might aggravate you could potentially wind up as your next lunch?

WhiteRabbit8 wrote:When people eat the bread (the bread is a great gift of God) - they feed on symbolically flesh God "is the Holy food" and "Holy symbolic cannibalism."

It would seem I failed to convey my disagreement with this statement.

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Sadly, a lot of them do, in one way or another.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:37 pm

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If you allow cannibalism - it does not mean to allow free human murder.
(The law should very severely - to punish the willful murder of the person).

If a person voluntarily "agree to be eaten" - it will be a "euthanasia".
(It will not be killing a man.)

Of course by itself - "a voluntary sacrifice of man."
(On a voluntary cannibalism - "the holy sacrifice devoured by man").

It is of course in itself - just do not stop the aggression and war in the world.

But it will be a step towards the abolition of all irrational taboos.
(Without taboo - people should learn to think for themselves.)

Voluntary cannibalism can bring people together.
As it will be overcome bred obsolete sanctimonious public morality - not natural aversion person to person.

Need holy promotion advocacy of human sacrifice.
 Holy "human Blessed sacrament" - sacrificial "real human flesh."
(General holy human sacrifice - should significantly bring people together).

In general, common sense, is needed everywhere - all things, without hypocrisy, and hypocrisy - frankly call all things - their real names.

There is another reason for cannibalism - the biggest reason.

Human meat - contributes to the full development of human organisms (moderately feeding on human flesh).

People evolutionarily become men - only because of the ancient cannibalism.

Modern people have long been deprived of human flesh - gradual evolutionary reduced mental development.

Without a cannibalism - there is an inverse evolution of man (de evolution).
(known what human flesh - contains all the necessary elements, especially the human very nutritious "human brain".)
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby Cowrie » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:34 pm

WhiteRabbit8 wrote:
Caniption wrote:

Human meat - contributes to the full development of human organisms (moderately feeding on human flesh).

People evolutionarily become men - only because of the ancient cannibalism.

Modern people have long been deprived of human flesh - gradual evolutionary reduced mental development.

Without a cannibalism - there is an inverse evolution of man (de evolution).
(known what human flesh - contains all the necessary elements, especially the human very nutritious "human brain".)

O_o You honestly think cannibalism is healthy? Ever hear of something called kuru? It's a one of a number of diseases that can be caused by cannibalism. And, the evolution of human brain power had nothing to do with cannibalism. It was made possible by consumption of brains, yes, but we're talking the brains of large, non-human herbivores, particularly ungulates. We were one of only two animals on the African plains to be able to easily access those brains, the other being hyenas (which connects with a little theory of my own, but that's irrelevant to this discussion). Hyenas have the bite force to open the skulls of large ungulates, early hominids had heavy rocks to do the job.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby Cowrie » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:34 pm

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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby jaykayeight » Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:43 pm

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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:29 am

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There immunity to human prion disease Kuru.
Immunity to prion disease "Kuru" - this is the proof that in ancient times was a very high propagation cannibalism.

Any physical or physiological frequent contact between people - and contributes to the development of specific diseases.

Having sex example - contributed to the emergence of "sexually transmitted diseases" (and the spread of "AIDS").

Ancient man, our ancestor "predator-scavenger» «Homo habilis» - ate all other bipedal apes (all other species - the ancient people).

The human brain - the ancient people ate so often - that there was a specific disease "Kuru" and immunity "Kuru" disease.

Eaten "human brain" - more influenced the evolution of human intelligence, than be eaten "the brain of animals."

People have an instinct - cannibalism.

Without eaten "human brain" - mankind had long since begun intellectual regression (learned men - recorded the last statistical researches of mankind.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 10:50 am

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It is very good that you - interested in the topic of the "human animal".

After all, farm traditional "livestock animal" already have - except for "human animals".

Bad that there are no legal "human farms livestock" - because in the Internet there are a lot of volunteers to become "human cattle".

(Many sacrificial masochistic people - want to become "human farm livestock" (and some masochistic people - want to be slaughtered in the slaughterhouse for meat).
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Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:05 am

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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby Cowrie » Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:36 pm

Dude, you realize the study that found the so-called immunity was all sorts of biased, don't you? All the so-called evidence of cannibalism it cited was based on the mostly-inaccurate reports of European explorers and other unreliable sources. And if you want to cite immunity to brain-borne illnesses, take a look at the statistics for mad cow disease--only a tiny percent of people eating infected meat were susceptible, which is supportive of the fact the early hominids scavenged large ungulates. I won't say that early hominids never practiced cannibalism, but it wasn't a staple--no social creature can survive in such a manner. It would have been a result of warfare (running firmly against your tenants of this reducing warfare), a funerary practice, or a famine food of last resort.

And the reason for any decrease in intellect is simple--in hunter-gatherer times, someone of lesser intellect was less likely to reproduce. As civilization has progressed, said individuals have become increasingly likely to do so, leading to a gradual decline in intellect.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:54 am

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We do not need any scientific evidence - just simple logic.

You can understand our starving ancestors - free from modern civilized conventions.

Cannibalism is a very long time - in ancient times had a very wide practice.

Cannibalism have an instinct in human genome.

The instinct of cannibalism - immediately turns on as soon as the people had eaten meat man.

After that - a man wants to eat only human flesh.

And some people have a sacrificial instinct - to be eaten freely.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby Cowrie » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:51 pm

Only an idiot says no proof is required for an assertation like that and instinct does not work like what you're saying. You're obviously a complete nutter. I'm not gonna post on this thread again.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby Thagrahn » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:54 pm

Alright, since part of this deals with a disease, factors of similar diseases over the coarse of history and today show a great deal of information reguarding the development of resistance and immunity to a given disease.

First: Initial exposure to the full disease is not a good thing. However prolonged exposure to a weakened form of the disease can allow the bodies immune system to adapt to and build defences against the disease.

Second: Prion can only really do damage if they overcome they can interact with the brain itself. This means that the prion in a good source needs to overcome the blood-brain barrier. Since this will not happen right away, the immune system will have time to build defences while the prion is inactive.

Third: Lack of exposure to a disease, event one you have built immunity to, results in the reduction of immune system defences dedicated to that particular disease.

Only AIDS defies this standard disease model due to the fact that it attacks the immune system itself, and thus prevents the immune system from building defences since the key cells trying to create the defences are infected and distorted by the virus.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:51 am

Thagrahn wrote:


That is, you claim that the human body can, in some cases, on their own - to overcome the prion disease Kuru.
(like all other various other infectious diseases.)

A genetically transmitted to descendants of immunity to this particular prion disease Kuru does not exist in humans?

Then there's the output:
If people do not have hereditary genetically transmitted immunity to the prion disease Kuru - the ancient people were not cannibals ?!

So ancient people - were very pious and respectable and well complied with all modern moral taboo)

I still think - the ancient people could not survive without widespread cannibalism.

Human hereditary save directly immunity specific - to prion disease Kuru.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby Thagrahn » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:22 pm

Actually, the resulting natural selection from generations being exposed to the same disease would be that later generations would be better at creating defences against the disease to the point where they may become latent carriers without actually suffering the disease.

The Kuru Prion hasn't been well documented prior to the 1950 mass out break, so the age of the disease is unknown. Current estimates on the time before the disease becomes active is based on when a given subject first participated in the cannibalism to when they started to show clear symptoms of the disease.

There is currently know evidence of an individual or group that has had a significant number of members participate in consuming the brain on a regular bases, so the base disease model is the only one that can be logically applied.

Break the world into subsides in which nations keep the practice within their boundries, and each hucow farm is likely to begin harbouring it's own unique prion, and consuming a hucow from a foreign country could become a deadly risk.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:04 am

Thagrahn wrote:
Break the world into subsides in which nations keep the practice within their boundries, and each hucow farm is likely to begin harbouring it's own unique prion, and consuming a hucow from a foreign country could become a deadly risk.


Of course in the modern civilized people, hereditary immune to prion disease Kuru - probably became very weak.

(If a hereditary immunity prion Kuru - ever really existed in ancient times among primitive people.)

If ever there will be legal and legitimate farm hucow allowed cannibalism.

Need to strict international quality control, to prevent the spread of prion disease Kuru - on farms hucow among human cattle hucow.

Probably so, the creation of a medical drug serum - for vaccinations and the development of artificial immunity in prion disease Kuru, consumers of human flesh.

(For example: as a protective vaccination serum - as it is done to prevent the spread of smallpox disease.)
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby Caniption » Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:59 pm

What I wonder is how you would sociologically justify this system. If people willfully make themselves into a food product, why would anyone legitimately care when there are so many available food sources?
People think of food as lesser, and there really isn't any changing to the point where a system such as you propose could be implemented in your lifetime, or perhaps even several generations after you. Go ahead and look at the stories written with vore-based domination.
It's degrading to be food. De-humanizing.
How would you go about removing this stigma? Because if you fail to find a counter to this, you aren't going to get anyone but the emotionally depressed/suicidal, perhaps criminally charged (despite that potentially going against a person's will), and individuals with a sexual desire to actually be turned into a food item.

Simply stating that it needs to be done isn't going to convince anyone here that your idea is even, in any way, possible to bring into society.

Taking the food supply issue into account, most countries could probably supply their people with food with great ease if the effort was undisturbed, with influences such as greed or the lack of influence to do so for some kind of gain solved.
People aren't going to think of it as some great sacrifice for these people to be their food unless it's necessary, which in many countries it isn't and potentially couldn't be.

In addition to this, you would need absolutely massive droves of people in constant influx in order to supply the larger populations, which various farm animals already supply.
A human takes several years to fully mature, some people not finishing until well into their 20s, whereas a cow bred for slaughter can be ready in a year and half or so, sometimes less.
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Postby Caniption » Thu Jan 05, 2017 5:13 pm

Also, out of curiosity, I can't help but wonder what brought you to the conclusion that such a system would be beneficial to society?
I don't mean this as to why you think it would be good, but what brought you to it?
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:42 am

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I advise you, carefully read - my first post in this thread (in the first post - has all the answers to your questions.)

1) What are the arguments for human livestock farms hucow - are purely theoretical philosophical.

But perhaps the people of the future will indeed be more sober and more tolerant and abolish the taboo on "human flesh".

The sources of the meat of animals in people very much.
But no food is no substitute - "highly nutritious" sacrificial human flesh.

As the cost of human flesh from hucov grown on the farm - is significantly higher than the traditional meat of four-legged farm animals.

But the demand for human flesh - is high enough and rich people can pay for human flesh - the high price.
 
Since human flesh is a powerful aphrodisiac.
Man once eaten human flesh - will always want to eat it again and again.

2) In the end, every person - must be able to choose:

(1) His way of life - the life of such "animal farm" or life "absolute slave."
(2) His manner of death - such as give your nutritional "human flesh" in food for humans or predatory animals.

Of course people think it is more humiliating, with great benefit to give your nutritious human flesh as food for people.

Much better is:
(1) How to give your human flesh - useless burial rotting and being eaten by worms burial.
(2) Or useless burn nutritious human flesh - in the ovens of the crematorium.

(All this is due to the fact that the people - a very long time cultivated in others selfishness, aggression, disgust and hatred of humans.)

Dehumanization - very much in the modern human society - it is much worse, voluntary "human farm animal".

3) the possibility of legalizing the consumption of the "human meat" - should not cancel the law on criminal liability for willful, not voluntary, non-consensual - the murder of a man.

(1) The international humanitarian organization to protect the rights of "human-animal» hucow and possibly the "Holy Church» HUCOW - must enforce the highest reasonable humanism, respect for the rights.
(2) For the donation of their sacrifice of human life for other people - there were only strictly voluntary and by agreement.
  
4) Of course a voluntary donation of their lives (sacrificial-people) - will not be enough.
For the mass production of large-scale farms in the human - the "human meat" and "human milk".

(1) However, after the legalization of the consumption of the "human-flesh" and the legalization of "absolute voluntary slavery."

Will enough many volunteers - to create a primary breeding "human herd» hucow.

Volunteers - "sacrificial suicidal people" - enough a lot of "human cattle-breeding herd"

(For full sufficient breeding "human cattle" - the first few human farms.)

(2) In the future, the two-legged "human cattle" - it will be possible to breed like a normal four-legged animals.

(3) "Human-calves" - will not have a "human intelligence."

"Human-calves" in their mental development - will be equal to the usual four-legged cattle.

Therefore, breeding farm "man-cattle" (with no human reason) - not less humane than farmed conventional four-legged animals (for slaughter for meat).

(4) When the "human-cattle» hucow, will have a lot of - it will be possible to provide ever increasing on consumer demand the "human milk" supply and demand "human flesh".

(5) Although of course the sales price to "human-flesh" and "human-milk" - is significantly higher than the meat and milk of traditional four-legged animals.

But higher consumer quality "human-flesh" and "human-milk" - successfully compensate for a higher sales price for these valuable new food.

5) But Not only the most valuable thing in the "human-animal husbandry" - should be "human-flesh" and "human-milk".

The most valuable thing in the sacrificial "human-livestock" is the spiritual foundation of a new human outlook.
On the sacrificial sanctity of all life in general (and particularly human life).

(1) For people (mankind) are by themselves - cattle "people-farms" for God the Father.

Not without reason in the Christian religion - Jesus Christ, was born on a farm with animals (farm animals).

Priests "Christian church" is not accidentally called spiritual pastors (shepherds) - human herd.

Noticeable is a clear spiritual analogy - with the "human-cattle farm ".

(2) It is possible, there is a hypothesis that - human "Homo sapiens" bred like cattle, the ancient mighty and strong giants "man-eating adelphophagy " ogres (Anthropophogy adelphophagy man-eating).

It is thanks to the ancient ogres "human-animal husbandry" and originated the human species "Homo sapiens" - almost hairless naked (without thick wool man - delicious) and a large human brain (large delicious enlarged brain - most appreciated ogres «ogre»).

(That is why people are so causes intense fear - the legend of the mighty giants of ancient cannibals.)

(3) creating a "human-animal husbandry" - people will return to the original (for the basis of the origin and development of mankind).

But to have a higher civilized stage of development of human civilization.

Sacrificial cultural "human-animal husbandry - should bring people together.

After all the physical and psychological means and - disgusted person to person, should be reduced significantly.

When the "human-flesh" - more will not cause disgust and nausea (bred disgust for "human-meat" in people from childhood).

The value of human life should be significantly higher - it can be appreciated not only human intelligence but also his - delicious nourishing human flesh.

The idea for my theme I took from fetishes dolcett, Vorarephilia, bdsm, Gynophagia, hucow.
Sciences - biology, Anthropology, history of mankind.
And of these books:

http://knigger.org/lovecraft/the_rats_in_the_walls/ "The Rats in the Walls" by H. P. Lovecraft 1923

"IN THE BARN" Piers Anthony
http://www.e-reading.club/chapter.php/9 ... _i_povesti).html (Russian)

"IN THE BARN" Piers Anthony
http://www.lycaeum.org/mv/BX/piers_anthony_stories.html (English)

Joseph D'Lacey - "MEAT"

http://mreadz.com/read-242983/p2 English book Meat
http://loveread.ec/read_book.php?id=24803&p=1#gl_2 in Russian book Meat
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:07 am

The man with the consent becomes hucow (he voluntarily goes on a par with farm animals) - is absolutely equal to the sacrificial cattle and meekly accept the inevitable fate of farm animals (martyr «martyrs» be scored on meat - to be an excellent tasty food for people).
Just as God Himself, Jesus Christ descended from heaven to the people (born among the people - a mortal man) - to accept the inevitable fate of man (as the mortals).
To live as a person and sacrificial martyrdom «martyrs» to die in the name of people.


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Человек по согласию становится hucow (он добровольно переходит на один уровень с сельскохозяйственным скотом) - становится абсолютно равным скоту и жертвенно безропотно принимает неизбежную судьбу сельскохозяйственного скота (мученически «martyrs» быть забитым на мясо — чтобы стать прекрасной вкусной пищей для людей).
Подобно тому как и сам Бог Иисус Христос снизошло с небес к людям (родился среди людей - смертным человеком) - чтобы принять неизбежную судьбу человека (так как смертные люди).
Жить как человек и жертвенно мученически «martyrs» умереть во имя людей.
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Re: SAINTS CHURCH HUCOW - PEOPLE FARM

Postby WhiteRabbit8 » Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:14 am

ПРОЭКТ: КАК НАПИСАТЬ - ОРИГИНАЛЬНЫЙ ФАНФИК ПО ЗВЕРОПОЛИСУ?
В низу - есть дебаты (комментарии и ответы)


Предлагаю пикантную тему - она соответствует не простой тематике «Хищник и Травоядное» (именно этой теме и обязан огромный успех мультфильма, ведь психологически — человечество тоже состоит из "травоядных и хищников").

Травоядные едят морковки (у них есть морковные фермы) - здесь всё нормально.

Но ведь хищники на то и хищники - чтобы кушать травоядных (иначе они уже не будут хищниками).

У хищников нет своих мясных ферм (где разводили бы травоядных) - это не нормально.

Вот на эту тему и надо написать большой фанфик, после взаимного непонимания, интриг и больших дебатов.

Травоядные и хищники пришли к взаимопониманию, соглашению и взаимному уважению.

Травоядные согласились пожертвовать частью подходящих травоядных (из каждого рода хотя бы пару травоядных).

Для создания племенных стад - новых сельскохозяйственных животных.

Некоторые травоядные добровольно должны войти в амбары (стоила), вновь построенных животноводческих ферм.

Джуди и Ник уходят из полиции и создают свою большую кроличью ферму (по производству кроличьего мяса и кроличьего меха).

Для этого Джуди уговорила отдать ей крольчат из нескольких семей кроликов (были также добровольцы и из числа взрослых кроликов — которым надоело самим выращивать морковку) : )

Добрая Джуди, была очень ласкова на своей ферме - со своими милыми подопечными кроликами, хорошо кормила их (чтобы все её кролики - были здоровыми пухленькими и хорошо упитанными).
(И конечно как и все сельскохозяйственных животные — кролики фермы, никогда не носили одежду.)

Джуди заботилась чтобы на её благоустроенной красивой ферме — рождалось много красивых, здоровых крольчат.

И крольчата насосавшись вкусного молочка у своих довольных мам упитанных пухлых крольчих — весело прыгали играя в загонах прекрасной доброй фермы.

Иногда Джуди утешала подрастающих крольчат как могла, она объясняла им их предстоящую великую роль - во всеобщей гармонии хищников и травоядных.

Джуди учила их быть мужественными и не боятся, когда придёт им время наконец - отправится на бойню к хищникам.

Ласково и кротко Джуди объясняла своим милым подопечным кроликам — что это будет не страшно, быстро и совсем почти не больно.

(Ведь хищники теперь искренне - очень любят своих друзей травоядных и стараются не причинять им лишнюю боль.)

Консервативные родители конечно сначала сильно не одобрили новое занятие своей экстравагантной дочери - зайки Джуди (даже на время отказались называть её своей дочерью).

Но прошло время в Зоотопии наконец наступило всеобщее умиротворение.
И тогда только тогда - старомодные консервативные Хоппсы, наконец поняли что их Джуди оказалась права.

Когда выступила на защиту угнетённых хищников (ведь Джуди всегда была очень честной, доброй и очень смелой Зайкой).

Хоппсы принесли своё глубокое извинение - растроганной Джуди и после примирения - все вместе счастливо и сентиментально расплакались.

(Счастливая Джуди тогда - долго рыдала обняв свою добрую заботливую маму, положив на её мягкое пушистой плечо — свою мокрую от счастливых слёз голову, иногда вытирая слёзы своми пушистыми ушами)

Папа Джуди - заключил с Джуди и Ником, выгодный контракт на поставку на их новенькую кроличью ферму - кормовой моркови (для откорма их сельскохозяйственных кроликов).

И после хорошо разбогател на этом, благодаря чему — количество сестёр и братьев у Джуди значительно увеличилось.

Хорошо упитанных кроликов — Ник сам не забивал, а по контракту - отвозил на мясокомбинат, для гуманного и безболезненного убоя (на мясокомбинате — работали только хищники).

А свою любимую крольчатинку — закупал в местном мясном магазине.

Джуди в этот магазин никогда не ходила, но ей скрепя сердце пришлось научится готовить крольчатину для Ника.
Что сначала было для Джуди очень не легко — ведь запах готовящейся крольчатины приводил её в большой ужас.

Когда уже позже - довольный Ник с удовольствием ел хорошо приготовленную вкусную жирную крольчатину и при этом — Ник с нежной улыбкой смотрел, на кушающую морковный салат немного смущённую Джуди.

Во время общего обеда,у кролика Джуди было очень странное не обычное - сексуальное возбуждение, от осознания того, что желудок лиса Ника - сейчас переваривается мясо кролика.

Нередко Джуди даже не могла удержатся от того чтобы не начать, ла...ть себя между своих задних лапок (дома Джуди как и многие другие кролики - часто ходила без одежды).

И тогда, после их общего обеда, у Ника и Джуди — был очень страстный с...с (но это не для детей).

Общих детей у Джуди и Ника конечно не было — но они усыновили из детского дома — маленькую зайку и маленького лисёнка (очень похожих на них самих в детстве).

Со временем Ник стал солидным и преуспевающим фермером и его выбрали Мэром Зверополиса.

(Все ещё помнили - какую ключевую решающую роль сыграли в прошлом, для нового разумного порядка и всеобщего умиротворения - Джуди и Ник.)

Ник и Джуди, тогда выдвинули свой лозунг может - «Пища быть друзьями и друзья могут быть пищей».

Хищникам этот лозунг сразу очень понравился, а после с ним скрепя сердце - согласились травоядные.
(Когда травоядные наконец убедись что умиротворение в Зверополисе ни когда не будет — без большой жертвы со стороны травоядных.)

Когда в Зверополисе было запрещено хищниками потребление мяса травоядных — сами травоядные, чувствовали что это не совсем справедливо по отношению к хищникам.

Древние инстинкты травоядных постоянно нашептывали им - что во имя гармонии жизни в Зверополисе, избранные из травоядные — должны время от времени - жертвовать свои прекрасные жизни, для их друзей хищников.

Хотя нашептывание этого древнего жертвенного инстинкта и вызывало большой страх у травоядных, но почему то к их страху у травоядных — часто примешивалось не понятное жертвенное сексуальное возбуждение со сладостным удовольствием.

Наверное это был голос самой природы — говорившим травоядным, что все виды животных имеют одинаковое право на жизнь — травоядные и хищники.

Поэтому у травоядных и хищников её в глубокой древности существовал - не гласный договор (конечно он был записан только - в инстинктах травоядных и хищников).

Травоядные убегают хищники их догоняют и получают свою заслуженную награду.

(Быстроногие травоядные - только время от времени позволяли хищникам догонять их — когда чувствовали что пришло для этого время.)

Конечно это было запрещено (стало табу) — когда у хищников и травоядных появился общий цивилизованный город Зверополис.

Но крайности всегда плохие и неправильное табу — никогда не приносило всеобщего счастья.

В конце концов, травоядные и хищники пришли к общему компромиссу - хищники будут охотится на травоядных в специальном большом лесу за окраиной Зверополиса, только в определённые времена года.

Охота на добровольных спортивных травоядных — если эти травоядные останутся живыми до конца охотничьего дня (не будут съеденными) — то они получат значительную призовую сумму денег и почетную спортивную медаль.

Удачливые травоядные пережившие три охоты - становятся спортивными звёздами Зверополиса.

Удачливые ловкие хищные животные которые съели - троих спортивных травоядных животных - становятся чемпионами Зверополиса и получают спортивную медаль.

Все животные Зверополиса во время охоты в охотничьем лесу, травоядные и хищники — должны быть обязательно абсолютно голыми.

А откормочные мясные сельскохозяйственные фермы — обеспечат настоящим хорошим мясом и молоком - всех дружественных хищников.

Для этого «добровольными племенные травоядные» - пожертвовали собой - для разведения больших стад сельскохозяйственных травоядных.

В общем всё в конце концов должно кончится, взаимопониманием дружбой травоядных и хищников и конечно хэппи эндом (happy ending).


Комментарий оппонета:
Белый, рыба, птица и моллюски рулят!

Ответ Белого Кролика:
Это не решение проблемы, это уход от проблемы (тем более, что во многих мультфильмах - рыба, птицы и молюски - бывают тоже разумными).

Комментарий оппонета:
Совсем нет. Это как раз решение. Учи матчасть.

1). Хищникам жизненно необходимы животные белки. Без них они зачахнут и умрут. Насекомые, моллюски, рыба и мясо птицы в этом плане очень помогают и их полюбому выращивают. Каждая крупица белков ценна. В мультике же на небе ни единой птицы не было...

2). Любое поедание мяса разумного существа - мерзость, ересь и каннибализм. Это запрещено на законодательном уровне уже более тысячи лет (со времён ещё до крестового похода).

3). В мире Зверополиса нет разумных моллюсков, рыб и насекомых (насчёт птиц, амфибий, рептилий и земноводных даже создатели не уверены, поэтому тут спор бесполезен), однако, чисто логически, я склоняюсь к версии того, что птицы выращиваются для прокорма хищников. Поэтому не стоит проводить парралели с другими мультфильмами. Это отдельный мир и отдельная Вселенная.

Ответ Белого Кролика:
Может тогда лучше их синтетическим животным белком кормить (но ведь дело не только в одних питательных веществах).

Дело в том чтобы прийти к разумному компромиссу между травоядными и хищниками,

чтобы хищники остались хищниками — они должны питаться настоящим мясом травоядных.
Так же как и сами травоядные - тоже должны питаться - живой травой.

Выходом для этого - может быть создание добровольных (по согласию травоядных) - животноводческих ферм.

Что в Зверополисе - будет равноценно каннибализму (ведь они разумные существа), что на первый взгляд выглядит ужасным и мерзким.

А просто убийство разумного существа (без каннибализма) это не мерзость?

Люди у же много тысячелетий этим занимаются (запрет на каннибализм не сделал людей добрее).

Про каннибализм писать нельзя (даже по взаимному согласию), а мерзким и глупым хоррором (смакованием садистских бессмысленных и жестоких убийств) переполнен весь интернет.

И даже милую добрую Джуди в жестоких, злых и глупых фанфиках - изображает садисткой и маньячкой.
Забывая что в фанфиках - персонаж должен быть прежде всего узнаваемым, а не бессмысленно и глупо извращённым.


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