Disgusted by such an amount you want to leave the fetish?

[coop500]

Okay good to know.

[Jeschke]

I've certainly felt like not associating with eka's due to questionable content that looks like it was traced/edited from real pictures, and I'm not the only one I know.The internet isn't so "nobody cares about what you post on the internet" and "zero consequences" anymore. But I know Eka allows nearly anything as long as it isn't a literal, real-life reenactment of vore, so there's no point to bringing it up and getting brushed off. Always been like this.

Anyway, at least the good thing is you can take vore in so many other directions more in line with your interests, it's easy to find your own niche. It would just be nice to hide away the really questionable things on the site so that I have a blacklist to point to if someone tries to associate me with others on here. That'd at least add a level of deniability.

Disgusted to the point of leaving the fetish, though, that's a bit strong a reaction. Sounds like me when I tried to cut the "evil" "sinful" porn out of my life. (Lasted about a month.)

[Colmillos]

Idk how to favorite discussions, but if I could this thread'd be my first. Really down to earth responses heee with a lot of them hitting all the right points. It really rings true that to get a few good pics you have to sift through mountains of garbage to the point that the ends don't seem to justify the means. Alas... here I am again...

[IvesBentonEaton]

That’s just Sturgeon’s Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crud.” In general, most people set their standards when exposed to a medium that interests them to reject all but a select set, if for no other reason than to save time. This set differs from person to person, which allows crud to flourish, because there’s no accounting for taste.

(The FTC requires notification of a blatant plug ahead.)

For instance, one of the most popular stories I’ve written is, perhaps, “A Study of Dragons”. I knocked that sucker off in less than a week writing a few hours here and there from a sudden inspiration while reading someone’s Seeking Partner post. (Usually, stories take me much longer as I like to let them ferment then come back and read them with a fresh mind.) But the person who inspired it hated it. Go figure. (To be fair, I rather thought that person would hate it, so I wasn’t terribly put off. We don’t share tastes.)

For myself, even crud serves a vital role: someone just might look at crud may say, “I can do better”—then goes out and does just that. So my corollary to Sturgeon’s Revelation is: “From crud grows flowers.”

[Ixtili]

I've certainly felt like not associating with eka's due to questionable content that looks like it was traced/edited from real pictures, and I'm not the only one I know.The internet isn't so "nobody cares about what you post on the internet" and "zero consequences" anymore. But I know Eka allows nearly anything as long as it isn't a literal, real-life reenactment of vore, so there's no point to bringing it up and getting brushed off. Always been like this.

Anyway, at least the good thing is you can take vore in so many other directions more in line with your interests, it's easy to find your own niche. It would just be nice to hide away the really questionable things on the site so that I have a blacklist to point to if someone tries to associate me with others on here. That'd at least add a level of deniability.

Disgusted to the point of leaving the fetish, though, that's a bit strong a reaction. Sounds like me when I tried to cut the "evil" "sinful" porn out of my life. (Lasted about a month.)

I don't think I've ever seen anything so realistic on this site that it would make me think the person behind the picture actually had a real subject on hand. I mean Cannibal Holocausts director got arrested for supposedly killing his actors and actresses but that turned out to be a big lot of drama over nothing. And that's a horror movie: simulating realistic gore in live action has got to be harder than just drawing a picture. Plus people have weird jobs, someone could be a coroner IRL or a surgeon or just REALLY good at drawing. So if you are talking about gore you don't necessarily need a live subject for any of that, and I don't think I've seen any realistic pedophilia on here that looks like it was sketched from real life with real models and if I did...I'd report it to my local police department rather than to a moderator. Even if it's just modeling exposing a child to that sort of stuff is still abuse or exploitation.

If you mean like pregnant people edits yeah that should also probably be looked into since I'm pretty sure most of the time they haven't actually asked for permission to use those images. Although...tracing photographs? not so much since that's a legitimate technique for learning how to draw something realistically, so, so long as what is actually in the image isn't like child pornography or genuine snuff I'd say that's not so creepy. But keep in mind like I said it's easy to fake gore, so just because an image looks realistic doesn't mean the artist is a serial killer. Let's not put any more people in jail for murders they didn't actually commit like that one horror movie director alright?

[RachelBabe]

If you just read stories a lot easier to deal with this, just stop reading when it gets wut

[BelleJar]

idk if i've ever gotten to the point where i want to leave so much as i see things on occasion that just make me lose total interest for a while. usually something that revels in excessive cruelty or shoves the fatality down your throat. i know some people are into it but when i encounter it it's usually by accident and well into the story. yes i stop reading but by that point it's already bouncing around in my head

[Cuddlekins]

Nothing like that, but I do worry since, while I understand the strong feelings toward lolis and child pred/prey in this, I wonder if the torches and pitchforks will someday come for people like me who create that sorta content. I mean no harm in doing this, and I cover my page in disclaimers as best as I can so no one gets the wrong idea.

[coop500]

Nothing like that, but I do worry since, while I understand the strong feelings toward lolis and child pred/prey in this, I wonder if the torches and pitchforks will someday come for people like me who create that sorta content. I mean no harm in doing this, and I cover my page in disclaimers as best as I can so no one gets the wrong idea.

I too wonder this myself I must admit....

[Aleph-Null]

Nothing like that, but I do worry since, while I understand the strong feelings toward lolis and child pred/prey in this, I wonder if the torches and pitchforks will someday come for people like me who create that sorta content. I mean no harm in doing this, and I cover my page in disclaimers as best as I can so no one gets the wrong idea.

Personally my issue comes with people depicting underage persons in sexual situations, as that is illegal in most countries.

[Celestia]

Nothing like that, but I do worry since, while I understand the strong feelings toward lolis and child pred/prey in this, I wonder if the torches and pitchforks will someday come for people like me who create that sorta content. I mean no harm in doing this, and I cover my page in disclaimers as best as I can so no one gets the wrong idea.

Personally my issue comes with people depicting underage persons in sexual situations, as that is illegal in most countries.

if by sexual situations you mean actual overtly sexual stuff like the loli/shota getting fucked up the ass or receiving oral sex from someone or something of that nature I can understand that being an issue. I personally don't like sex and vore mixing (nudity being an exception because clothes ruin the taste of the meal) but I honestly don't see any harm in underage characters in situations that involve food-prep/cooking/eating if nothing overtly sexual is occurring in the scene like I described at the start of the post.

I mean there are fairy tales and cartoons that put underage characters into voreish situations and that stuff is very mainstream and aimed at children. hell, there are horror films that do this too like Nightmare on Elm Street 3 where Freddy turns into a worm monster and tries to eat a young girl, like 12 or 13. also, Tales From the Dark Side: The movie where the wrap around story focuses on a modern suburban witch/cannibal who has a kid locked up in a dungeon cell pantry and is making preparations to cook and eat this kid who looks like 10-12.

point is, mainstream people don't really consider food-prep/cooking/eating involving a person as prey as a sexual thing.

[Wolfsage]

There are a lot, and I mean, A LOT of times when people take these thing WAY too far. And the worst is, they neglect to put up warnings so you don't know beforehand.

[dflr]

Nah, sometimes things get pretty damn weird but every time I see something where I'm thinking "what the fuck?" I just remember that there are people who have less weird tastes than I, and I can't look down upon anyone else just as I'd expect nobody else to look down upon me.

I was born with some weird brain configuration which begets sexual excitement at vore, which is pretty messed up, but I can explore and enjoy it privately without anyone knowing and being harmed by it, so I am very happy. I am lucky that I was born with this fetish rather than another, because vore is so hard to make real, so it hardly manifests into real life. I can guiltlessly enjoy this weird thing without harming or involving other people.

I feel sorry for people like paedophiles who get sexually excited for young children or other illegal stuff. I have no sympathy for child predators, but for people who were born with a fetish for illegal and immoral things which can manifest in real life, they must forever repress themselves and never admit to it. They had no choice in how their sexual system was configured, but they cannot enjoy it as voraphiles do.

Unless someone is hurt or exploited, I think it should be free to view. I feel disgusted looking at some types of vore such as cockvore or morbidly obese people, but I respect them for sharing their weird thing. It's not for me, so I avoid it, but I don't condemn it.

[MechaSharkZilla]

I'm pretty messed up in the head, so I don't kinkshame people unless it causes someone/something harm RL, or involves RL children. Anything less than that, and I just avoid looking at it.

[RAAG]

For me its a bit like looking at nitrotitans stuff. Some of it really works, som is just absurd, and some is gross.

But still, just take what you want, leave the rest.

[merlovinit]

I am definitely unhappy with real people's pictures being used without permission. Seriously, cut that shit out guys.

I don't really see myself leaving this site for any reason, however.

In this thread I'm surprised to see the amount of people who overly criticise what they see as bad art. Sure there are people who appear not to improve for years and maybe their art is honestly bad, but why are people getting all offended about it? Maybe this is an outlet that they need to be happy.

The only thing I truly dislike about this community, and all sexual fetish communities in general, is that you get a lot of people who immediately cross over acceptable boundaries or just abandon decency in the hopes of getting their rocks off.

[Shirayuki]

I just avoid what I dislike. We all have the same fetish but it can be so complex and broken up to many categories. I don't think we can just leave vore because it's our fetish and can't be erased entirely.

[Celestia]

In this thread I'm surprised to see the amount of people who overly criticise what they see as bad art. Sure there are people who appear not to improve for years and maybe their art is honestly bad, but why are people getting all offended about it? Maybe this is an outlet that they need to be happy.

It's not that they're "getting offended at bad art" it's disappointment and frustration over wasted potential. there are so many artists on here that have a massive amount of potential to improve their art/writing and become even greater than they currently are. a lot of us see that potential and are like " this is decent work but if only they tweaked this or changed that or improved in this area this piece/artist would be amazing!" hell, I'm still learning coloration techniques as I go and every time I color another piece of art I find a new technique I can use in the future to improve on my coloration work. right now I'm still only concerned on improving my flat coloring and transparency techniques but I want to eventually teach myself shading and lighting techniques to become even better at what I do and make rough sketches and line art truly pop with vibrant colors and shading. we in the community just want our fellow artists and writers to truly realize their full potential rather than stagnating at their current skill level and never improving their art/writing if there is room for improvement.
the sad part is everyone here is so afraid of stepping on someone's toes or hurting someone's feelings that they don't provide constructive criticism to artists when it's needed. and by constructive criticism I mean stuff like "this piece is pretty good but it could be even better if..." or "this is pretty good but maybe next time you should try doing ___ to make your next piece even better."

[Ghrelin]

if an artist has asked for critique or tips for improvement, then by all means, offer up your thoughts! there should be no fear of giving advice where it's welcome, and those who have opened up to it should be willing to listen to thoughtful and constructive critique. a lot of artists out there are practically begging for comments and tips, never to receive them. i see a lot more of that than i do people being enraged at legitimate critique when they were the ones who asked for it. it does happen sometimes (and by sometimes, i mean rarely from what i've seen), but it's hardly an excuse for holding back helpful comments when the artist has specifically asked for them. for every crybaby who says tips are welcome and then gets mad about them (assuming the person offering the critique was actually being constructive and not rude--i do see people making negative/unhelpful remarks without offering real suggestions, then acting like they don't know why the artist was offended), there are dozens more people who would genuinely appreciate others taking the time to lend a fresh perspective and give them some insight on ways to keep getting better.

that said, it is impolite to give criticism where it wasn't asked for. not everyone is looking for advice, and no one's obligated to improve (or change, as a lot of so-called critique tends to be matters of personal preference) for anyone's sake but their own. and contrary to what some may say, just because a person shares their work doesn't mean they've automatically consented to receiving a "free art lesson" from the viewers. sometimes, people just want to make things for fun or to jot down ideas they've had. not everyone who makes art takes it seriously, and regardless of whether they do or don't, they may not always have the time, motivation, or desire to work on honing their art skills and/or putting more effort into the things they make. that doesn't mean they shouldn't continue to put out whatever they feel like making and share it for anyone who might appreciate it as-is. not everyone is going to be grateful for a "this is good, but...", nor should they be expected to.

tl;dr: please do give constructive feedback to those who ask for it, but don't assume that everyone wants it, whether you think they "need" it or not! gripes about quality are perfectly fine to have, but they're in exactly the same boat as gripes about "not enough [insert subject matter here]".

[Dango]

I feel like this has less to do with vore, and just any fan/community in general; especially in gaming where people have differing opinions or debate over the direction of a series.

This community is particularly tough because there isn't a lot of good commercialized vore media out there to share (shows), and among cartoons and anime the amount of human girls is close to zero; so that just leaves... us? Were not all artists, were not all writers, so you're going to see a lot of stuff you don't like.

What I really wish is that we could get a feature on Eka's Portal to sort new content by popularity or favorites, I don't know what needs to change in order for that happen, but I also recognize that the content on Eka is entirely free and it may not be within the admins budget to do this : (