The Empty Star- ASKING FOR HELP WITH NON-SCAT PREFFERENCES

[SquishySofty (mention)]

I like these, the wolf girl looks like Holo from Spice and Wolf
and the Horse girl looks like Sigrid from ZZZ.
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I think there's no coincidence on these characters, but if those are true, then what about the main character?

[quicks (mention)]

Correct on both of those characters.

I havent seen them but i watched some clips from spice and wolf to see what her personality was. I haven’t watched any shows with any of the characters in this so dont expect them to match!

Also, i found some techniques that im really amazed with. Expect something big as a little side bonus while i hammer out some skills and style technique then we are back.

The MC is from something I’m sure but I picked it entirely random. There aren’t a lot of male models and I needed a plain looking one. I’m not a fan of it but options were slim.

[CHXZJE (mention)]

may i ask when i can play the next version or do you have a patreon acc i think many people want to play this game. I rlly like the settings and the play style.

[quicks (mention)]

Next version, unknown. I am working on it but it takes a while. Maybe a month or 2- I have to go back and redo a lot I had done to move to new art.

I am considering a patreon it would certainly help me dedicate more to it. There is a money piece here too the AI stuff is pricey. I've sunk probably $400 but not just on this. Let me think about it. Video is MUCH more expensive and needs to be edited for sounds and stuff more. If we want to lean into that stuff more it might be slowed or I might need to subsidize a bit. If this ever becomes a paid project id also want to make sure we loop in our programmer, VigourousJazzhands

I have a big video coming up to show you as a tech demo once I can edit.

[quicks (mention)]

Hey, want to see a 2 1/2 minute vore video from patched together ai tests? Come to my mega.

(Link lower in comments)

For the record I'm not doing stuff like this for this game. It was pretty expensive and something I just made while working on some techniques. That said, I think I learned enough that I can make shorter ones for intro taunt/maybe a special attack/maybe a... ahem... finisher or a "game over incoming" incoming like a pred walking off with you. Having one intro/maybe one attack/maybe one special finish or something per pred is more than enough.

The other problem with big projects like this is scene continuity and voice matching and stuff. Its not made for this yet- but was a learning experience for me. This isnt meant to be a perfect video, but enjoy it to see what I was doing. Also dont mind the typos and weird voice stuff in these. I got better at it past this point.

A couple notes, I found a way to chroma key scat that works. In this video its purple jelly, but I can make it other colors that let me convert it in a roundabout way (bypassing civit restrictions around anything that might be poo). If I make it green and then chroma key green out to a brown background.

There are also some weird gimmick tricks for guidelines too. Did you know you cant have someone say "turn you into wolf waste" but you can say "turn you into wolf WAIST?" Stuff like that is handy!


Moral of the story, expect a little video stuff here and there. Nothing this large whatsoever in game, but now that I know a few tricks I can do small stuff for cheap. Something big like this probably costs >$50-100 to hit and several hours to process and then more to edit/add sounds/etc.

[quicks (mention)]

For a smaller demo, check out one game over example for upcoming pred, Cassiopea!

In game would have found fx added and a background. I rendered with a green screen and removed that so I could add a barn roof or a sky or whatever if I wanted to reuse. I might even be able to change character model and line and animation a bit to reuse this.

[Drakarth (mention)]

Hey, want to see a 2 1/2 minute vore video from patched together ai tests? Come to my mega.

https://mega.nz/fm/WxhmWTZR

For the record I'm not doing stuff like this for this game. It was pretty expensive and something I just made while working on some techniques. That said, I think I learned enough that I can make shorter ones for intro taunt/maybe a special attack/maybe a... ahem... finisher or a "game over incoming" incoming like a pred walking off with you. Having one intro/maybe one attack/maybe one special finish or something per pred is more than enough.

The other problem with big projects like this is scene continuity and voice matching and stuff. Its not made for this yet- but was a learning experience for me. This isnt meant to be a perfect video, but enjoy it to see what I was doing. Also dont mind the typos and weird voice stuff in these. I got better at it past this point.

A couple notes, I found a way to chroma key scat that works. In this video its purple jelly, but I can make it other colors that let me convert it in a roundabout way (bypassing civit restrictions around anything that might be poo). If I make it green and then chroma key green out to a brown background.

There are also some weird gimmick tricks for guidelines too. Did you know you cant have someone say "turn you into wolf waste" but you can say "turn you into wolf WAIST?" Stuff like that is handy!


Moral of the story, expect a little video stuff here and there. Nothing this large whatsoever in game, but now that I know a few tricks I can do small stuff for cheap. Something big like this probably costs >$50-100 to hit and several hours to process and then more to edit/add sounds/etc.
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is that the correct link? it's asking me to login to Mega

[SquishySofty (mention)]

Hey, want to see a 2 1/2 minute vore video from patched together ai tests? Come to my mega.
https://mega.nz/fm/WxhmWTZR
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Seems like you copied the link directly in the URL instead of sharing the folder in MEGA.

[quicks (mention)]

https://mega.nz/folder/StA2DZbA#2vYts7WDC3txIDS2G9SmaQ

How’s this one.

There’s a lot of stuff in there, just go to “the empty star” there’s a bunch of stuff in there from past projects that are photomorphs so avoid that unless you want to. If you are in my mega and want to see another CYOA there’s a few.


Did the short MP4 of the horse attack work? Sound on for both of these.

[quicks (mention)]

An update on the mega around these animations.

I want some input before I keep going on generation. Meanwhile I am working on converting some already generated art for dialog and whatnot to the newer style with older models.

https://mega.nz/folder/StA2DZbA#2vYts7WDC3txIDS2G9SmaQ

I found a few ways to make short videos somewhat reasonable. I want each girl to get an intro taunt, a neutral loop animation, occasional special attacks or event happenings that cause a video, possibly a "in the belly" loop too, and occasional special finish taunts. Most of them will be short and minimal dialog so flow and consistency shouldn't be bad.

[Drakarth (mention)]

An update on the mega around these animations.

I want some input before I keep going on generation. Meanwhile I am working on converting some already generated art for dialog and whatnot to the newer style with older models.

https://mega.nz/folder/StA2DZbA#2vYts7WDC3txIDS2G9SmaQ

I found a few ways to make short videos somewhat reasonable. I want each girl to get an intro taunt, a neutral loop animation, occasional special attacks or event happenings that cause a video, possibly a "in the belly" loop too, and occasional special finish taunts. Most of them will be short and minimal dialog so flow and consistency shouldn't be bad.
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those were pretty good,
can't wait to see any unbirth ones you do, if you do any that is.

[quicks (mention)]

I did play around with one to see if it would work.

After talking to a few others on this I’ve decided to do videos but only in small context. The wolf video was never meant to be game use just a practice video to see what’s possible. There will not be “cutscenes” just a few short clips for special attacks and some endings. Probably 10 seconds of video max per girl broken into 2-3 clips.

[aperson1234567890 (mention)]

The little clips could be good! I would recommend minimizing the voices though and would flat out discourage the voice for the protag. I definitely look forward to seeing this develop!

[quicks (mention)]

I’m talking the feedback. Thank you for those who pmd me too.

No voices. Short videos for special attacks and fun little intro/finishers on occasion/neutral animation cycles. Maybe intros if text only voices.

I went big on it here as a test to see how people feel. I expected people to like them more but I’m very glad I checked first!

One feedback in pm was that using videos for special attacks would be hard on potato laptops for accurate qtes so to be clear the qte will be still image then the “failure” will have a video.

Another concern with voices was “going cheap” on audio where it could be done by a person. To be clear, much like the art, I am using this as a messy shortcut not a preference. If anyone wants to join this project as a sound engineer or can do VO work with a particularly bitchy female voice skillet let me know! I would gladly use a real female voice for these vs ai. We will NOT be doing voice for every line but those special events which will be maybe 10 seconds per pred could work.

[Hongry01 (mention)]

Hey pervs. I'm working on a few graphical updates. I wanted to share some progress.

I've figured out something that makes pretty good short looping internals, so I think we might try to implement those. Instead of having dozens of variations of a few internals- how do we feel about less quantity more quality?

Let me know your thoughts. The downside of this is that content is delayed, but working on things here. I did a little in my photomorph forum in the mean time just practicing some tools.
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I think the videos are definitely an improvement!

[wind (mention)]

Hi! I think I have to reply to support! This is quite good so far. I enjoyed it.
I like the setting of the different routes(endings, attacks) during the battle very much. The story setting is also interesting.
I'll say this is a great start and I'm looking forward to it.

P.S. I'm personally a big fan of unbirth, I wonder if there will be more in the future.

[quicks (mention)]

Thanks I’m always happy to see support and feedback.

There IS going to be more unbirth in the future. The next few updates will have at least 1 pred with unbirth and there’s at least a handful of scenes planned and 1 pred later this chapter that really specializes in it.

Expect a lot more sex too, you’ve only encountered 2 very civilized folks so far. Attacks, failure scenes, and dialogs that lead to you getting drained are coming. If you like pussy especially in femdom interactions stick around.

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For an update on general I’m working to remake some scenes I already had the art done for. Writing is about half finalized for the next release and art is maybe halfway done. No eta yet but I’m working on it and I like the way it’s shaping up.

[Finley46 (mention)]

Hey, played the game and love the concept, I like the combat system in place and like the character designs, not sure about the video (the consensus on short vids for failed dodges or special attacks is good but idk if it is needed, especially if it’s too hard or expensive).

Keep up the good work and I look forward to seeing more from this project!

(Since people are slapping this at the end: I’m an Oral vore person, but I like that any vore can happen in combat!)

[quicks (mention)]

Thanks. Keep the feedback coming- I do use it!

Oral vore is the classic and definitely wont go forgotten. There's probably 5-10 oral vore scenes this next section depending on how much of the planned content gets included.

As an update, we're plugging along. I had a lot of stuff done in the former art style that I'm working over still. I haven't found a big block of time to focus on this but hopefully with fall schedules coming up I can get a little more time here and there. I'm also finding that the different art styles have different little inconsistencies- its not worse or more difficult I just had way more experience with the other model. I'll probably speed up as we go.

Still no ETA but just FYI its going I'll just take some time with it.

[quicks (mention)]

Hey. I'm still doing research over here. I think I've finalized style and found some workarounds for some of the limitations around getting the requests to work together.

Working on a technique I think I found a process that works, here's an example.

Step 0, the AI doesnt allow scat. Asking for anything brown and sloppy gets weird looks and rejects requests.
Step 0B, I do like scat.


Step 1, the ai generates something that isnt scat. In this step if you ask for anything brown or that might be scat it will get upset and block the request. It can generate a weird jelly dildo and I can get it to make a coil pile as long as I'm not hinting it to be anything worse than jelly.

Step 2, I ask for a tweak to a brown color now, which is allowed, as long as I still describe it as jelly.

Step 3, I can ask for a texture change on an object and as long as it doesn't consider the rest of the image it is fine. The ai still considers the object "jelly" and doesn't flag

Step 4, I can add little details. (if desired), like a jelly splatter- and the ai considers it jelly still.

Step 5, once I have an approved image I can turn into a video if desired.

Step 6, send it to you pervs.

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Another thing I've been working on is hitting exact pose with removing and altering details. Theres a lot of jank in my process and I often manually touch up stuff by hand. The AI stuff has a lot of jank so learning how to direct it a little more is helpful. Here's an image altered so the jelly isnt there. I'm trying to get to where I can generate a video from start to finish there and convert to the color and texture I'm looking for. I've had a little success but holding off on it.