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Oh what the heck(A copy and paste of an FA Journal)

Posted by Star_Sage 14 years ago

 

I got a few reactions on FA, and decided to post this one here, mostly for kicks, and somewhat because it's 3 AM and it seems like a good idea. Oh, and before I get into it, here's a link to the conversation referred to in the blog itself. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2344766 read that at your own risk, it contains bugs. I also ask in a comment to the journal on FA, if anyone wants, give Shomti a poke for me. His AIM and YIM name is Shomti316. He's on fairly regularly, he's just blocking or ignoring me, and I'd like him to know that Star Sage hasn't forgotten him, or what he owes me. Without farther adu, my rant. Oh, this contains one of my few online F-bombs. It's in italics and bolded, you'll see why when you get to it, but you've been warned it's down there.





Okay, I've been debating on this for a while, posting this little rant, and I've even worked out a bit of the wording in my mind. I'm also going to post a link to a conversation log on AIM I had with a user named lordrekot, which a few of you have seen when I wanted to show off the level of assholes I've met previously, mostly to those who felt like they were being mean to me, and I wanted to show them there are far worse people out there. Note that these situations, which there are a few of them, are all told from my point of view, if any of the people involved wish to set forth their own version of events, feel free. In fact, I greatly encourage it, as it will provide a grounds through which we can understand each other better. That attitude never worked out so well in high school for me, but luckily I happen to be a foot or so taller, and a hundred pounds heavier than your average asshole, and I made a few see the insides of some trash cans. It was actually pretty satisfying really. Anyway, onto the list of people I've met who've acted like assholes.



Lordrekot. I'll post my last conversation with him once I'm done writing this journal, and encourage you to go read it. He talks about bugs a lot in it, mostly because I'd mentioned I don't do them, and he was quite pissed at me, to understand why though, you have to understand him. He was an RPer I met on Eka's portal, meaning he enjoyed vore RPs. Okay, he liked giantess(human), and was willing to play pred a lot.

Awesome, or so I thought. He was quite verbose too, but he had some odd posting habits, don't ask me to explain what I mean by that as I'm not sure, but he never dragged me into the play, not like some others I've had the pleasure of enjoying a good time with. Anyway, he also had the horrid habit of having me spotted by the giantess just before being eaten, and her mistaking me for a bug. Worse, he then had her eat real bugs, which killed the RP right then and there, after I mentioned why, he said he wouldn't do it again.

Okay, very next time, it starts off strange, again, he doesn't do anything wrong, it's just there's no heart behind it, which is very hard to get, so I won't hold that against him. However! He does it again, where she mistakes me for a bug, this one doesn't even get me eaten as she adds another bug to what I was on. Okay, I tell him no bugs, don't even mention them, and go away. Third play starts out rather bland, no surprise, and I get called away to go do something RW. Okay, I come back, and this time, I'll admit, I was an asshole and went looking for other play on Eka's Chat.

He finds me there, RPing with someone else, get's pissed, and for the next few weeks I'll get posts about bugs on IM. I confront him about it, and it turn out he didn't do this just to me, apparently he flamed and pissed off anyone who pissed him off even a little. He's banned from Eka's, no surprise there as the bunny and her mod squad are very fast with their banning sticks, and continues to assault me, with several user names, some of which I'm pretty sure he created on AIM to bug me. The convo I'm going to post is the last one we had, and my final attempt to make peace. Oh well, he was a bad player anyway.



FatalTragedy2k4, this guy is...he's him. I don't really want to make him mad, as he does seem like an okay enough guy, but what he did was...well asshole is a good word for it. Okay, get this, I do something I call RP greetings, basically little scenes where I type up a short for the person, usually based off their own prefs. I do it mostly to manipulate people, and it works quite often, getting me stuff to sate my own unending hunger for more unaware vore.

Okay, I do it with FT, and we start talking. Eventually I get around to asking for a trade, and he agrees, for a few more RP greetings. I type him up a couple of things, only for him to tell me he won't do my thing, meaning I have to think up something else. I take my time in the thinking, and eventually he offers a contest. I, and a few others, emphasis on a few, join in, and type/draw him his thing, with the offer of art at the end. Okay, this isn't so bad, but then he basically says that if we aren't going to get his thing in return, it's going to take a while, or it‘s not going to happen at all in some cases.

That's....yeah, that's not how a contest works, or trades even, though at least for trades he didn't really know what I would ask for in return, here he encouraged me to join, knowing he wouldn't do my thing. Okay, I'm a bit peeved, but I do have an idea, a gift art of Jizzal, who will always be special to me. Alright, he comes up with the lineart for the gift in about a month or two. And since then, well over a year ago, I've got nothing. And while he isn't an avid poster, much like myself, he's still done quite a few projects in the meantime. Not a nice thing really, though I've confronted him with it a few times, and he has said he's working on it. Who knows maybe he's telling the truth. And I will say again, that he got me something. That's more than a few can say.



Domo, a user I actually met on a giantess site. I'm not as active there as I am on FA, or Eka's, mostly because asshole an fucktard levels there are so far over 9000 that it goes way beyond infinity. However, a few nice guys, and even girls, exist, and I've chatted with some of them. Domo, for his part, is actually a pretty nice guy. Not a writer or artist, he mostly commissions work, and gets others to do things for him on the promise of him commissioning work.

Enter me. He asked me for something which I've posted here after reading a few of my GTS stories. I've chatted with him a few times, and he's said it's still being done/he needs to get the money. Not a terrible or unbelievable thing. Reason he's on this list, my last conversation with him, either by fate or because he's avoiding me, is basically him asking me to do something more for him, to get him to go faster. One, I did actually offer, if I really like what he gets done, I'd do more, but that's no excuse for asking for it in advance, when you've already got something.

He did share a few of his commissions with me, of course, some private, but as I told him, crushing isn't my thing, and especially when it's aware, and by mean girls without provocation. Aware vore is sometimes fun, but that depends on the situation. Anyway, I do hope he doesn't take this as too harsh a criticism, as I would still like what he promised, and as I said, I think he's a nice enough guy to chat with, but ending on that note, and then not seeing him for the last month+ kinda makes me feel like he got all he wanted and ditched me.



Shomti, again, this is not someone whom I would normally add to the list, but I felt I should, if only because he's stopped responding even to my hellos, which while I do them mostly to poke him about what he owes me, I do them well over a week apart, and I leave as soon as he gets annoyed with me that time. Believe me, I know how annoying poking can be(No I'm not talking about you, you know who you are, I'm talking abut a guy who literally poked me once an hour, for 3 weeks for something, and I mean literally), but if a week or more goes by, I think it's valid to poke again, especially when that's when you specifically said you'd be free to work. Okay, time again to back up a bit.

A while ago, read a bit(Maybe a month or five, I can't remember) before new year's last year, I got an urge for something I normally disdain, known character vore, meaning characters from games/movies/books/comics/etc, engaged in vore. This is unusual for me outside of Star Fox, which I consider to have vore in it anyway, so it doesn't matter(Boss 1 of Star Fox Adventures eats you, and you fight inside its belly. nice).

Anyway, the characters in question were Carmelita Fox and Sly Cooper of the Sly series of games. I posted a request for a trade, and Shomti answered, as he too wanted something from that series, namely someone torturing random people for the love of Neyla, a cat women from Sly 2 who...well, play the game. Anyway, I ask him to do my story, and then set about doing at least a short for him, which is, as with Domo's, posted in my gallery. Anyway, I get it done in a day or two, at the time I had some inspiration, and some free time to do it. He thanks me, and says he likes it, and as with Domo, I offer more when he completes his end.

He gives me about four paragraphs of stuff he'd worked out, which were some actually pretty good intro stuff to the story, and since then, nothing new, and he's basically called me names a few times for asking. As of this posting, he's stopped responding even to my hellos, which is kind of a jerk thing to do, and it's not just that he's AFK either, because I've waited for him to respond, and he never has. He may actually be blocking me, which isn't nice, and is a real jerk thing to do under the circumstances. I will end by saying he has said he's had a couple of problems in real life, which I understand completely, but not enough for the time it's taking.



Cownugget, ah, finally, the guy who inspired this whole thing. Do I even have to say why to most of you? To those not in the know, or just not vores, Cownugget is an epic level of asshole, and I feel no qualms calling him that, as he pulls out all the stops. I will start off by saying that I got what he owed me, and he's asked me not to post it, which I still won't, but I never mentioned not saying anything about it, though I've waited a while to cool off about the whole mess to finally post about it, which has take a period of months. Okay, and away we go with this rant.

I take you back to 2006, I had only recently discovered that as insane as vore was, I wasn't the only one into it, and after getting disgusted with a few GTS(Giantess) websites and their assholes, censorship, and overall lack of content that appealed to me, I found Eka's, a place for vores, mostly thanks to the above mentioned Jizzal, without whom I wouldn't be the guy I am today. Anyway, about four weeks after I join, I end up in the OOC room late night, and some guy named Cownugget offers a trade in the pubic chat. I'd seen his work, and being only a bit sure of myself at the time, I humbly offer myself to the task.

He asks for something a bit...well, it's private, but let's just say it pushes some buttons, however, being my first trade, I do my best, and about 2-4 months later, I present him the finished work, which he compliments at the time as being 'great'. I ask him how his own part of the trade is going, and he basically tells me he's making sketches, and it should be done sometime soon. Okay, I go away, a week later, I poke him again, again, sketches and done soon. You can guess that goes on for a while.

Coming up on 6 months after I'd finished my part, I confront him about it, and he basically says he's got a few real life problems to deal with, but for being understanding, he'll upgrade my b&w drawing to a color. At the time I hadn't know it was B&W I'd traded for, so it kind of peeved me off, but I accept it, and then go away for a month, starting to poke him whenever I see him post something new, which is a bit longer than once a month.

Then, early in the summer of 08, he basically posts on Eka's asking for people whom he owes stuff to to come out of the woodwork, and that he'll finish them all by new years, or owe everyone an extra page. This pisses me off mostly because he mentions that no one's been contacting him, when I sure as hell have, and I'm pretty sure others have as well, them mentioning it every once in a while. Okay, I confront him about that matter privately, and then wait, as I happen to be second on the list of stuff. The months roll by, and at the end of it, he hasn't done a damn thing. Not one fucking piece.

A lot of pissed off posts from people, and he basically vanishes from the site, not responding to anyone, from my information. I figure that's at least the last we'll hear of him, and even suggest to a few guys we keep a look out for someone with the same style, and to poke them when we see them, when someone posts a very nice link to another account, and says it's Cownugget, which is confirmed by a journal entry.

Now, a bit of a backup here, but as I said, I accepted his, I'm working on it/can't draw right now due to real life excuses, mainly because he posted only a trickle, and most of those from Arohka, who, no offense to her, drastically over paid from what I hear. Anyway, the reason this bears mentioning, his main account is constantly updated, with over a hundred pieces since it had been made. And quality stuff to, and what nails this coffin, he was asking for more commssions in the journal, and asking for those he owed stuff to to post in it.

Alright, I do so, and instantly get flamed by another user who, if my memory serves me right, rather directly tells me his art is too good for trades, so I should have to pay like everyone else. Okay, she's a bitch, and in fact, after a little flame war in the journal, we go into PMs, a bit, with me explaining that while not for money, trades are about equal with that, as they're something for something. I've always felt that way myself.

Anyway, the bitch happens to be his girlfriend in real life, and after he deletes the journal to get rid of our little shouting matches at each other, and then I repost again, saying he owes me something, I then finally get a PM from CN himself, saying he's going back through his commissions from first made to last, and that somehow, despite me knowing he had commissions younger than mine, I'm at the bottom of the list. Okay, he deletes it again, and I post a shout on his user page saying that I'm now watching, and will ask around about commissions.

He goes apeshit at that, and I know a few other's posted things like 'he owes someone something from that long ago?', before he clears them all out. Okay, he says now that his GF won't let him make my thing, and I basically tell him to do it, and he gives me some bull shit stuff about how he has to fake like he's not doing it, and asks what I want for the extra stuff. I get it about 24 hours later, with the extra stuff I'd asked for and not even mentioned before hand, and he then tells me that I owe him now, as what I'd originally typed up was apparently not what he wanted, even though in 2 and a half years that had never come up.

And onto the topic of what he did for me. It was indeed not just one still shot, it was a three panel comic. Not an extra page, but instead just one with three pictures on it. Oh, and it was in B&W, with him saying he never offered color to me. Oh, and least I forget, he still insisted that he'd been working on that the whole time, despite it being rather obviously one page, with, as I said, an element, an internal shot, that I had only just told him about a day before. Let me some up my feelings for Mr. Cownugget in two words, and then offer a link to his primary account.
FUCK YOU!!!!!
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/gunmouth/



Now then, as I said, I don't really feel too mad at Shomti, Domo, or even FT. I would eventually still like to see what was promised, though at this point, one or two have led me to doubt it will ever be done. Cownugget and Lordrekot however, they're assholes of the most extreme measure, and I hope you never have the displeasure of their company. Oh, and as I said, I'm posting Lordrekot's Goodbye, my last convo with him, if you want to read it, check my gallery/search for Lordrekot's Goodbye. It's an interesting read, if I do say so myself.
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John

Posted by John 14 years ago Report

Wow.... That is all I can really say.

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Star_Sage

Posted by Star_Sage 14 years ago Report

Heh, with FT and Domo I'm no longer as mad at them, after typing this up. Yeah, it's taken over a year, but I'll let them take it, if they need it, especially Domo, who is commissioning something. As I said, with him, it is possible it's just bad timing with that last conversation. With FT...he has less excuse, but at least he got me something I can look at. Shomti has less excuse. While it sometimes takes me a while to write something, a year, and with no replies to messages in the last month and a half, yeah, that's too much. As for Lordrekot, I have talked with a few people in private after posting this, and found he's far more of an asshole than I can say, calling people names, and then hanging up a conversation with them after only a bit of talking and finding out they weren't giantess fans, even though I looked back on some of his topics, and found him just asking for RP, he never specified what type he wanted. Cownugget speaks for himself, and I hope he gets what he deserves eventually, sued, by all those whom he owes stuff to, which, if I've got my figures right, is somewhere in the triple digit range, with 4 digit figures of money at stake, maybe 5.

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Ka-Atis

Posted by Ka-Atis 14 years ago Report

I wish I had something really smart to say... anyhow, here are my thoughs.

Aaaaagh!

It is so frustrating when people are not doing their part of the deal, and also too chicken to let you know what is exactly going on. Something I have seen many times is that people are not able to do something they promised (or they simply lost interest), and then they just let ot go, hoping that the other person in the deal eventually loses interest as well. Such things seriously p***es me off, but is -sad enough- pretty common: just letting things get "old" and hopefully "die".

Some years back a friend of mine said he wanted to read a story I wrote and give feedback on that. Well days and weeks passed, I asked every now and then, but nothing happened. He wa sgoing to do it for sure, he was just too busy right now. Ok, I said, decided to just give him time and did not push or bother him anymore with asking. A number of weeks later (or was it even months) he told me "that he was in a real reading mood" and had read a fantasy trilogy consisting of thousands of pages within only few days. I asked if he maybe had found some time to read my story as well (which was around 15 pages). I could see how his face immediately turned dark red, and he stuttered something like.. "oh... no... but ... I thought that was old. I didn't know you still were interested in that..."

This a good friend of mine, so nobody with actual ill-intent or "don't care". It's just *sigh* a kind of behavior which has become too accepted. I don't know about the guys you are mentioning, but I suspect it being something similar. Of course, internet anonymity adds to it also. Or - sometimes people *are* very busy and don't notice that time is passing... People don't contact you because it simply hasn't appeared to them that it's very long time ago you last talked. Anyhow, I hope that the guys contact you now and and let you know what is actually going on, and that you find a way how to work things out. The cownugget story sounds pretty terrible and hopeless though.

However, the first guy you mention, the one on the chat, is either plain stupid or just a troll. Or a net rat. Or all three of them together.

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