Posted by orca13 13 years ago Report

Nice! I think it would be cool to see this turn into a comic!

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

That would be nice. So long as I'm not the one drawing it, lol.

Posted by dragonfred 13 years ago Report

Nice loved it!

Posted by Rulke 13 years ago Report

Really awesome story here
You are right, the build up was really what made this story great

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Thanks, I'm glad you agree. With this story, I think that if you're not going to read the whole thing then there's really no point in reading it at all. I'm just worried that people will just skip to "the good part" and miss out on everything that makes it good.

Posted by Rulke 13 years ago Report

Well it is their loss
It really elevates the story, it makes you actually involved with the characters which is rare for these stories
I felt slightly sorry for Stewart but at the same time I could understand the predators
It is a rare piece that can do that
Congratulations

Posted by Dragga 13 years ago Report

You know...that was kinda messed up in the end. |3 Drunk or not, seems cruel to do to a friend so quickly.

Poor Stewart.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

I'm sorry you feel that way but it all comes down to personal preference. The reasons that you don't like this can be the same reasons that others do. Also, vore is kinda messed up to begin with and this is only fiction.

PS I'm not having a go at you, I'm just explaining myself. You're entitled to your opinion and I do appreciate the comment.

Posted by Dragga 13 years ago Report

I didn't take it the wrong way, trust me. I understand prefs, and even know I have a few contradicting ones. Even in fiction, feeling sympathetic for a character's fate is a perfectly reasonable reaction from the audience. Just seemed as if their friendship, in the end, meant absolutely nothing.

A good read and well done, but, in the end, all the sympathy I had went to the otter who was humiliated in his last moments by his friends.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Fair enough and thanks. To be honest, I'm kind of flattered that you reacted the way you did because it means that I've written a believable character.

Posted by Dragga 13 years ago Report

You did good on Stewart's part, that much is true! It's just, at the same time, you make it painful to see him go like that. I understand that creating a sympathetic character can be quite a success, I suppose, thanks to my personal tastes, sympathetic prey will always hit rather bitterly for me.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Ah, that's where we differ. I'm prey only so I need the prey to be someone I relate to. I think of myself as a pretty descent so I can't empathise with a character that deserves it.

Posted by Dragga 13 years ago Report

I'm actually fond of both predatory and preyish roles. But, I suppose I'm merely a big softie at heart~

Although, I can admit having a brief chuckle to realize that the pink bunny incident is in your gallery!

Posted by BingFox 13 years ago Report

Yeah, I agree, heartless preds are one thing, but these so called "friends" are just needlessly cruel, IMO.

Posted by Fischie 13 years ago Report

That must be a strange society in which they live if one can laugh at someone being digested.
Reminds me of our real world where we laugh our asses off when rich people suddenly become poor.

But the story has a nice feeling about it it seems somehow believable

Posted by miranda_dragon 13 years ago Report

I loved this.

Quite well written, as usual, but also pushing a lot of my vore buttons on themes that I tend to like.

The truth or dare scenario is always something I've been toying with in my head for my own futile endeavors on writing. It's very easy to make that scenario cliche, but your setup here made it work wonderfully.

So, we've got vore involving good friends, which is always a bit plus in my odd list of preferences. And you've got a somewhat casual approach to vore, but with all the real consequences which always seems rare and is something I tend to love.

If I had any complaint, it's that the part where Stewart was pleasured seemed kind of glossed over and quick. But, that's a minor issue and I still enjoyed even its brief inclusion.

Overall, I'm very happy you shared this with us.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

I think you and I have very complimentary interests, Miranda.

I'd be very interested to read what you write for this scenario if you get around to it. From your descriptions for your commisions I think you're a pretty good writer yourself.

I have to admit that I'm glad I got this up before you had a chance to do yours. I recently discovered that my "Sleep Eating" story has been done before and I'm ever since paranoid that someone will beat me to the punch on what I think is an original idea.

The blowjob was a bit of an afterthought and I'll try and go into more detail if I include it in future stories.

Thanks for the feedback.

Posted by miranda_dragon 13 years ago Report

I would say our interests do cross over here and there. >_>

I wouldn't sweat it. There are always going to be tropes in vore, like anything else. Certain scenarios lend themselves to it quite well. The important thing is to make your version stand out, and you did it quite well.

Don't hold your breath for my own writing. I'm notoriously bad at getting anything done and super intimidated by the prospect. At some point, I hope to get something out, but I struggle with it.

Posted by orca13 13 years ago Report

We should ask Strega, or make a thread for it. I think one of those would work!

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

I was only kiddin, mate. I would never ask for such a massive request.

Posted by Marco 13 years ago Report

Well done. I really enjoyed reading this, not just for the eating (which was excelent) but the whole story was well written here, and as someone else said, I liked how you allowed us to get to know the characters before actual vore takes place, I prefer stories to do that - obviously I'm here for vore, but I like my storied to be of decent writing, and you're stories defintly are.

Also, I found it amusing how at one point they're all asking eachother things like "Who out of us would you like to eat/be eaten by" and then Stewart asks something like "who out of us gave you the worst present" and the others are all like "Dude, that's not cool..." :D

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Heh, I got that birthday present question from a truth or dare forum. It just struck me as a tad ungrateful and it's definitely not the kind of question a kind and generous wolf like Talia would answer.

Posted by orca13 13 years ago Report

Yeah, it would be a pretty big request.

Posted by maleperduis 13 years ago Report

This truly is a really excellent story! It's easy to tell what you were going for and you achieve it wonderfully. Lighthearted, but also quite nightmarish. It's the sort of thing that leaves you feeling a little shivery with empathy even if you enjoy it.

Personally, I know from the little I've written that I'm terrible at "cartoony" scenarios. And this isn't really cartoony in a 'drop an anvil on someone' way, but it does have that sort of slight detachment from reality in the characters' attitudes and actions. I think most people find that very hard to achieve successfully, and it's important for this story because otherwise some things (Stewart so completely misjudging his friends and society, the others all suddenly changing their attitudes at once) would feel quite incongruous and inexplicable. As it is those things still nagged at me just a little as I was reading, but mostly seemed to fit in well and add to atmosphere rather than be too jarring.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

I like to use animal characters because I pull no punches when it comes to vore and if I were to use human's, it just becomes too much for me.

And you'd be surprised at how much you can misjudge people, especially when the world fills your head with bullshit ideals. Stewart saw only the best in his friends so he never suspected what was lurking beneath the surface.

There were clues, they were obviously bullying him in the last game and probably had been bullying him throughout their friendship but because of Stewart's attitudes, he was blind to it. The same thing happened to me in college, so when I write this story, I'm writing from experience.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Err, by same thing I don't mean getting eaten and digested.

Posted by Bright 13 years ago Report

I liked it. It was well written and I think the characters are believeable.

Also, eating the designated driver is lack of forward thinking. Lets hope he did not have his carkeys on him.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Well, it's a good thing that they stripped him first. People don't often have much forsight when drinking.

Posted by Slash 13 years ago Report

Heh heh. Seems your story stirred alot of mixed reactions from the readers. Good. Your doing something right then. It's these types of vore stories that make it all worth while. :3

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Thanks, though I never expected some of the negative reactions I've gotten from this. I need to put more warnings on my work.

Posted by Slash 13 years ago Report

Well as artists and writers go. There'll always be someone who's not going to like your work. It happens. Just stick to what you enjoy doing. Warnings help , but sometimes folks still complain. Though in my opinion your doing fine.

Posted by Dragga 13 years ago Report

Mm, I wouldn't go that far. Even if I don't agree with the level of cruelty, I still think you've got too much skill in your writing to really concern yourself too much over us softies. You might hear a voiced opinion or two, but that's far from new around here~

Posted by Readasaur 13 years ago Report

It was very interesting to read this and watch Stewart react with the kind of horror and revulsion you'd expect, while the others were completely desensitized.

Posted by Kooshmeister 13 years ago Report

My feelings are still mixed but it's still a cute and sexy story despite the underlying cruelty in it.

Posted by Noctivagus 13 years ago Report

I liked it, despite it being almost painfully cruel. It made me go through a bit of a spectrum of emotions that i rarely poke at.

Posted by Azzal 13 years ago Report

Yeah, pretty cruel, but i've come to expect that from JuiceFox by now. Maybe that's why I like it, I dunno.

Also, every single one of your characters are preds, dunno why the otter was prey, they are exclusively carnivores. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVwBvA5LQEI' target='_blank'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVwBvA5LQEI

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Being a carnivore doesn't make you safe in my work. Especially when you're small and streamlined for easy swallowing, lol.

Posted by Gypa 13 years ago Report

Interesting statement that, so can we expect an story that turns things upside down and have a none-natural pred? and none-natural prey? As for me personally I get lots more exited when natural roles are reversed in furry vore stories.

Posted by Hooligan 13 years ago Report

I've mixed feeling with Vore stories like this. While I'm ok with the over all story and out come, it really came across as needless cruelty on his "friends" part. I mean they flat out tormented him the whole time. Kinda not cool.

I can understand the treatment when they've not known each other for long. Like they've seen each other around at other parties, and this time they were the last to leave. They decide to play Truth or Dare and things happen. The driver gets eaten and so they stay the night. haha funny.

However, why it's writen that they've been friends for 4 years, and in the end his life ultimately meant nothing to them. Really off putting for me.

Still great story over all. I know a lot of Vore fans love stories like this. Just cruelty on this level is kinda taking it too far in my opinion.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Fair enough, but the friends aspect is what interested me most in this story and, I feel, it's what makes it unique from my previous work. Of course, your idea would work but this kind of vore is so rare and so hard to pull off that I feel that fans of it need it more than fans of vore between strangers.

Thanks for the comment though, and your suggestion. Although I don't plan on changing this story, it's interesting to think of alternative set ups and it helps to guage the overall response to one work in calibrating for the next.

Posted by Hooligan 13 years ago Report

You're very welcome. I mostly pposted that because your story actually left me feel quit uneasy. Not many can stir up my emotions, but I actually felt your characters fear and since of dread.

That takes a lot of skill.

Posted by Humbug 13 years ago Report

So your latest submission finally reminded me to read this at a time when I was motivated to do so. I guess that's one benefit of the couple of drawings you've done for it. :D

At any rate, I think a lot of the commenters are missing the theme of "civilized vs. instinctual" that you bring up not only in this story, but also in most of your other stories and drawings. In that respect, I don't really find the change of mind as jarring as some did. You gave plenty of hints that this sort of thing just kinda happens. I'm not even convinced that they planned for the game to end that way when they suggested it in the first place.
Either way, a fine job on this. You're right; the buildup matters.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Ha, you've seen through my devious scheme to get more people to read this story. "Civilised vs. instinctual", you know I never thought of it in those terms. I usually just see civilisation as another natural environment from which we draw upon to satisfy our instinctual needs. The fight, as I see it, isn't between the two but in integrating one into the other. It's an interesting way to look at it thoungh, and it does explain the appeal of my "Instincts" comic.

Posted by Humbug 13 years ago Report

Hmmm...so I was close, but not quite there. Interesting thought, though: How does one integrate predatory instincts into some sort of society where murder is likely wrong? Or is the sanctity of life even a value among predatory anthros?

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

I would imagine that predation would be frowned upon in a society that predators and prey have to live together. It would be tough getting a date if you become known as a predator so I think it would be something that you would keep private.

In this story, predation becomes okay, because everyone is so supportive, but I don't think that Talia would have done it in front of people she didn't know were okay with it. Basically, I think there's a time and a place for everything, including vore.

Posted by Humbug 13 years ago Report

Yeah. Makes a weird sort of sense. Interesting thinking about how animals might have rules and taboos different from ours, though.

Posted by Tabatha_Cat 13 years ago Report

Nice story, and the reactions it provoked are interesting as well. I'm like you in that my vore fantasies usually involve animal anthropomorphics; I believe that gives it an unreality that makes it bearable. I also tend to prefer traditional pred prey relations (cat and mouse, wolf and rabbit. . .)

Reading the comments from people uncomfortable with the cruelty to Stewart from people he thought of as friends, it occurs to me this sort of thing and worse happens in reality. The dynamic of a group, in this case all of the friends but one are preds, and Stacey is close to Talia and so wants to make her happy, is set up well. Again, it seems to me the setting of fantasy and something so outlandish as vore makes it possible to explore dynamics that would be more painful in a more realistic setting.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Thank you. It's nice to hear that someone agrees with me. I actually did write one story involving humans early on, but it made me feel dirty so I took it down. I think animals bring a sort of innocence to vore and feels almost natural. Especially, like you said, when you use natural occuring food chains.

Posted by Strega 13 years ago Report

Wow, after seeing the pictures I had to read the story. First, otters are if anything more predatory than lions or wolves, and second, skunks are pretty omnivorous but are still in carnivora. Everyone in the room was a 'predator'. I suppose the distinction is 'These are the ones who don't murder people for food'.

Which brings us to: the morality here is pretty much nonexistent. Talia loses a dare and they all gang up on Stewart and murder him for it. He doesn't even get to pick the dare!

This sort of thing is fine when the preds are presented as heartless sociopaths, or if there is prey reformation, or they have a really, really good reason to do it (Like disposing of a person who is too dangerous to let live). But all turn on their friend and kill him? When TALIA was the one who failed the dare?

As with Beachfox's drawings, it is hard to imagine a society that would tolerate this sort of behavior. "Prey" would form gangs to protect themselves and in response preds would do the same. Preds, presented here as hardwired to want to eat people, would keep doing it. Society would collapse. Really, it would. How could police keep order when a good fraction of the population is serial killers and everyone is terrified they will be next? Every "prey" parent would get a gun and they would be trigger happy. Is that wolf kissing my daughter? BANG.

It would probably end in war, with either every "predator" shot dead or the "prey" species locked up in livestock pens. Stories have been written about that sort of thing. 83

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

While I agree that an otter was probably not the best choice of prey in this story, I have to disagree with the rest of your other argument. I don’t think you have to stretch your imagination very far given the reality that we live in today. In America, the rich minority bleed the poor for every cent they’re worth, forcing them to work several jobs at a time just to make ends meat, and no one does anything about it. In fact, they proudly proclaim themselves to be free, when to the outside world (or at least to me) it looks very much like they’re living in slavery. And their dogmatic belief in freedom blinds them to the reality of their situation

I imagine a similar kind of social dynamic in my story. Stewart held such a dogmatic belief about predators (ie: “no one in the developed world did that sort of thing”) and thus held his eyes closed to any evidence to the contrary until it was too late.

You’re right that it would be very difficult to get predators and prey living together peacefully, just as it is to get different races to live together peacefully, thus the culture develops an extremist ideal in equality to make this possible. As in real life, they are taught to ignore differences between from an early age, and continue to do so to avoid being labeled a racist. I still remember when I was in high school and one of my friends described a class mate as “that black guy,” and my teacher exclaimed “I wish this class wasn’t so RACIST!”

So to answer your questions, how could prey tolerate a few of their kind being murdered without rebellion, well, you can’t act against something if you don’t acknowledge it exists.

Posted by Strega 13 years ago Report

There is a vast gulf between mild racism and murdering people for fun. The former is questionable, the latter is (or should be) illegal.

Do the police know this sort of behavior exists? We are presented with four purportedly normal people who think it is perfectly OK to murder their friend, mock him as he struggles to escape, and then make fun of his corpse as he's digested. At the very least we have to conclude that they are amoral monsters. I've written plenty of stories about amoral monsters and generally they exist either in deep secrecy, taking prey when they can make someone disappear without comment, or the entire society is built around the behavior and there are strict rules governing it.

So which is this? Is it rare behavior, or do the cops and government turn a blind eye to murderous sociopaths in their midst? Because if it's the former, some preds are eventually going to get caught and word will spread. If it's the latter, we are presented with a grim environment in which murder is a normal and accepted part of life and sooner or later no pred will be trusted.

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Well, I’d say that it’s a bit of both. Predators keep quiet about who they eat out of embarrassment and because others “just don’t understand.” While the police and society as a whole turn a blind eye to these sorts of occurrences. It’s just easier to ignore a problem than to face it head on. Letting a few casualties go here and there is surely preferable, at least to the police, than all the trouble caused by rioting and mass hysteria.

Posted by Strega 13 years ago Report

If it seems odd to you that I, of all people, am complaining about morality, then I have to agree. But I always feel sorry for prey in other people's stories. 83

In other news, I am sketching a prequel to the Cops strip you did. Is Troy a stereotypical red fox or are there distinguishing characteristics I should know about?

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Don't sweat it. Everyone seems to feel particularly sorry for the prey in this story than any other I've done.

And Troy is a pretty stereotypical red fox except beefyer. The kind of guy you wouldn't expect to get eaten ordinarily. I'll send you a PM with sketch I drew of him.

Posted by Indighost 13 years ago Report

I really enjoyed this story; it's always nice to see someone take the time to (a) develop characters and then (b) spend a little time focusing on digestion. Thanks for uploading this!

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

Thanks, it's always nice to know that people appreciate your work.

Posted by Smitty 13 years ago Report

Is it just me or would he still be alive if he didn't freak out so much when Talia started talking about her eating that bun? If he didn't then everyone wouldn't have concentrated their minds to that idea X3

Posted by juicefox 13 years ago Report

I don't know about that. Talia wanted Stewart for years and I don't think she'd pay much mind to what he thinks about the whole thing after waiting so long. And Stacey wants to see her best friend happy and what better way to move on from a recently ended long term relationship.

Posted by Smitty 13 years ago Report

Ah X3 Guess I was just hoping that was the case. I like the idea of prey making one small mistake that leads to them getting eaten. Like, say, a mouse spilling mustard on himself the day before he gets married and a feline gobbles him up.

Posted by BlackRose 12 years ago Report

Lovely work with this one man. I did enjoy the scenario of 'truth-and-dare' which gave me ideas now to use similar scenarios in possible future rps.

Stewarts fate seemed a bit sad, to a point, but then I put away my sympathetic prey side and come back to say how deliciously cruel it was XD

Nice job and keep up the good work with your stories :3

Posted by juicefox 12 years ago Report

Thanks. It's always nice to hear from someone who isn't angered or upset by my stories.

Posted by BlackRose 12 years ago Report

No problem man, I am a laid back guy that enjoys well written stories :3

Posted by JustTroy 8 years ago Report

I really like this style of yours. My favorite part of vore is the post-consumption conversations and activities and you seem to give that area some much-needed attention. It's a nice change of pace from the usual stories I encounter with the introduction and climax (the swallow) being given proper consideration but everything after is shallow and brief. The only things I can say I'd like to see more of would be post-consumption pred/prey conversation. I'd also personally prefer a more willing prey character with more romantic elements to the story but that's more of a personal preference so take it with a grain of salt. Anywho, hope you like my wall of text and overall good work. ^_^

Posted by juicefox 8 years ago Report

Thanks. I definitely like that part of vore very much, but I only really drag it out when I have enough ideas to keep it interesting. However, I'm not a fan of willing vore so I don't think you'll be seeing much of that in my work.

Posted by sholsen 5 months ago Report

I'm curious how much trouble would they get in if people found out what they did to Stewart?

Posted by juicefox 5 months ago Report

Probably no consequences at all. It's an open secret that this sort of thing happens and is generally accepted, tho taboo.

Posted by sholsen 5 months ago Report

okay some more of a loss of street cred than legal trouble