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So... that was a bit of an impulsive decision, wasn't it? ...Place your bets?
When it came to Arthur and his pack, there were a number of things co-creator x9comega was very eager to see happen. I think it's safe to say that we're both fans of seeing jerks get put in their place. But I think we also both understand it's rarely that black and white. I think a fair number of readers judged Arthur and his pack rather quickly- much like Fiona and Jack did. But there was always a bit of nuance there if you looked for it. The goal for me was to make it ambiguous as to how things would shake out, but understandable when everything did eventually resolve. To that end, I think we did a good job setting up and paying off the little character details that came into play here. For one of my favorites, try going back through the series and seeing how many times Arthur refers to Jack by his name, compared to, say, Mort.
I also love how I was able to tie in the events of #32 as a misdirect, something that I did not have planned at all until I started writing this one.
I am sorry to say that this story has no actual vore in it. There's a fair bit of prose and dialogue around the subject of getting eaten, and there's a fake-out or two, but no one getting swallowed or digested. I know many of you don't mind, but I do make it my goal to try to put some vore in everything I post here. For this story, though, there just wasn't a good place for it, and we wanted to give the characters and their emotions the focus they needed. We'll have more vore-filled adventures soon enough.
And if you want to see those coming adventures, or go back and read the ones Jack as already managed to survive, you can find them all right here:
https://aryion.com/g4/view/569713
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Posted by Dragonknight007 1 year ago Report
My favourite chapter yet i can just picture the raw emotions they were all feeling the entire time and i love it 10/10
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
Debatable with Ch.58. But I have to agree with this being a good chapter. Can't say it was predictable, but at least we crossed the bridge.
Didn't think that Pyre and Mort would switch sides, especially with Pyre starting a new clean slate, but after seeing Arthur's disgrace, I can understand their change in their standings.
Didn't expect to see Chelsie choose before Udon, but seeing the pack's choice in Fiona's Raging ultimatum is actually done very nicely. So now the question is what will happen next?(Arthur still chasing Fiona? Going to get revenge on Jack after being humiliated in his own home with his friends watching? Would anyone of the pack regain respect for Arthur? Would Arthur seek to redeem himself to get his pack back?) Also, I am now wondering if the earlier game of 2 truths and a lie that Chelsie said, which 2 truths did occur?
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
Huh, I wonder which of Chelsie's statements *was* the lie? Guess we'll never know ;p
Posted by Wolfsage 1 year ago Report
I was a bit upset we never found out, maybe later.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
Your gonna use it in one of the future chapters, I bet?
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
Sounds like I did my job well, then. Glad you liked it.
Posted by Dontplanonposting 1 year ago Report
Wow. Ive been following this story for awhile now and this is probably my favorite chapter so far. You've got real talent and i can'twait for the next chapte.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
Thanks! Always love hearing that :)
Posted by Kasra 1 year ago Report
Wow, that honestly went way better than I'd possibly expected! I was only half kidding when I suggested the next thing we'd be seeing would be Jack having to beat each of Fiona's former packmates ala Scott Pilgrim and the League of Evil Exes. Even Pyre is at least on board with the armistice!
Honestly, it feels good to read predator-type characters who, though they have strong opinions toward the pred/prey dynamic are also willing to see the writing on the wall and consider adapting their thoughts logically to the current situation.
Plus it's good to see that manipulative jerk Arthur finally get what's coming to him. Even if he did think he was doing it for the right reasons. And even if I'm forced to recall that passing-Jack-in-the-hallway moment from a while back. Jack's gonna have to watch his back.
The real question is...will Arthur team up with Sissy? And will Jack be smart enough to include Sarabeth in this newly-formed group, so she'll be SLIGHTLY less jealous until the L-word slips out again?
What I know for sure is Jack had damn well better stay on Chelsie's good side.
Posted by x9comega 1 year ago Report
The ultimate team up: Sissy, Sarabeth, Arthur, and of course the mastermind pulling all the strings…Wiley!
Posted by Kasra 1 year ago Report
I mean. With Wiley at the helm, they're doomed to failure before they even start. Somehow Wiley will slam Arthur's tail in a door, Arthur will hit him, Sissy will laugh, and Sarabeth will walk away pretending she doesn't know them. Then Fiona will tell Sissy she shouldn't be at her school unsupervised and take her home. Along the way Sissy will make fun of Arthur and Wiley and how terrible they are at being preds, and Fiona will tell her not to gang up with strangers to go after Jack. Sissy will decide that REAL predators can catch their prey alone, especially when she realizes that Arthur wanted to eat Jack too. They'll have flapjacks for dinner.
Also wanted to mention that I found it highly amusing and oddly fitting that this group of advanced predators, faced with what may be their first encounter with a regurgitated human, are genuinely curious what it's like for the prey inside their stomachs.
Posted by x9comega 1 year ago Report
I mean Jack could answe without talking about Fiona, he’s been in enough Preds bellies
Posted by Kasra 1 year ago Report
True, but this is the first time he's been properly "part of the group," and the subject is fresh at hand..
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
This conversation is deeply entertaining for me to read XD
Posted by Kasra 1 year ago Report
Wiley eventually becomes a boxer after realizing after all the head trauma and Arthur's wrath that he's actually pretty good at taking a hit. He goes on to become the heavyweight champion of the world. After winning the belt, he tries again to eat Jack and falls down an open manhole and gets stuck due to his newly-swole bod. Sewer rats bite his toes, causing an infection which ends his boxing career.
Arthur becomes the setting-equivalent to a Jehovah's Witness, going door to door to convert humans either to his religion or himself.
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
Who’s Wiley?
Posted by 2Ron2R 1 year ago Report
The fox who keeps running into things and knocking himself out.
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
Which Chapter did he make his debut?
Posted by 2Ron2R 1 year ago Report
I'm not sure what the number is for his first appearance but I believe it involved going after Jack in the bathroom slipping and running headfirst into a wall.
I know he shows up in #13 and gets a locker opened into his face right as he leaps for Jack.
He's referenced in #28 running into Lances breastplate.
#35 lunges at Jack who uses a spell to speed him up causing him to over shoot and pounce on another pred.
Possibly other instances I've forgotten.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
First appearance is in ch.9 when Sarabeth convinced him to get Jack during a bathroom break.
And last appearance so far is in ch.43, were Fiona accidently advised him how to catch Jack better, before realizing that he was after Jack.
Speaking of which, the neko from ch.9 had a bone to pick with Jack, tricked by Sarabeth again, about him having a thing against nekos. With Chelsie now on Jack and Fiona's side, I wonder how that neko would be like now?
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
A Scott Pilgrim style fight would be cool, but too bad that this isn't a video game.
Now the question is what do we have next in the next arc?
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
Notice a typo: at the end, it says 5, when it's in total 6.
Finally seeing Arthur's true self coming out. Ya reap what you sow; he proclaims that he helped Fiona, but never understood what he did to her that lead up to this point. Finally seeing everything thrown at him at once, with more than a sane person can handle.
I always thought that Arthur was the Alpha of the pack. Now we know that he's actually an Omega. Looks like Fiona just took over his leadership roll and pretty much left him for good. This is good Karma happening.
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
So now Jack had made some new friends.
Predatory friends.
However, it’s gonna take a lot of time for him to forgive them, as they were the ones who ate his support group, especially Fiona.
Posted by 2Ron2R 1 year ago Report
Who else thinks a bully forcing her to swallow her brother is one of Chelsie's truths? It would explain a lot about her. Did't expect her to switch before Udon either, didn't expect Pyre to switch sides at all.
I can't believe that Arthur will just let this go, though what he'll do I'm not sure.
Posted by x9comega 1 year ago Report
I’m just gonna say it here: Chelsea has been basically 10 steps ahead of this entire event. The reason she moved first to stop Arthur is because she absolutely knew he would lash out the SECOND she saw Jack not dead. She’s also seen through Arthur’s bullshit from day 1, and has held some amount of respect for Jack since seeing him blast Pyre.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
Which makes me wonder: was she the Alpha of her group? Or a longest "friend" of Arthur that she can read him like a book?
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
I’d say they were both great preds, and their cooperation was mutually beneficial, until it wasn’t.
Posted by Perodian 1 year ago Report
How did you type in italics?
Posted by 2Ron2R 1 year ago Report
I discovered comments use the same formatting as PMs. :D
Posted by Wolfsage 1 year ago Report
That was really satisfying. Can't wait to see where this goes.
And I hope Sissy gets to play a bigger role :D
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
We do have a few plans for her, though really I think there's almost always room for more Sissy.
Posted by Wolfsage 1 year ago Report
Good to hear.
Posted by Daduke 1 year ago Report
Chelsea`s badass man like she read everything and she knows respect and keeps it real. Good on the advanced preds being pretty open minded. Way to go Jack with the haymaker we all wanted to give Arthur for the longest. Amazing chapter, that took an unexpectedly good turn.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
Things were going so, so badly for so long that I doubted anyone would see something this good coming.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
Agreed.
Posted by VincentRamone 1 year ago Report
Lovely. This was fantastic, I'm glad Arthur lost a lot of his credibility and friends. Also way to go Jack decking the bastard. I'm excited to read more and see what happens.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
I'd say Arthur could "eat Jack's fist", but I guess given the context that could read either way.
Posted by VincentRamone 1 year ago Report
Yeah, context would definitely matter in this situation
Posted by Nomad3628 1 year ago Report
I wonder why this searing hatred comes out of Arthur. It must be something in his past. He was so collected in every single scene where he was and now we read this. And the world is not black and white most of the time. It's almost never the case.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
If we focus on the present, Arthur has alot to be passed about: Firstly, he tried to invite Fiona to shape her to becoming more like him, so she can be claimed by him, and make a show of it to his pack. This is what Jack and Sarabeth saw right away. Then he flirting with Fiona by corrupting her resolute to not betray Jack and not hurting him, which he made her do buy "feeding" her marked prey, to making her chase and eat marked prey to scare Jack, then the hunt at the survivors anonymous that drove a deeper wedge between Jack and Fiona, and now had his pack cornering Fiona to eat Jack, which she swore that she would never do, and expected to be thanked and worshipped like a heroic leader. The ramifications of it lead to the pack losing respect as a member of the pact, losing face, losing any chance of getting a mate, by a human prey no less, which he had multiple chances of getting himself, and denied victory over "conquering" Fiona. Pretty much being cucked.
He pretty much put himself on a high pedestal of predator that he never sees anyone else but those who he can control. And he lost it in one night, by having him face the consequences of betrayel against Fiona's trust, and treating her as his obedient follower. He lost everything, and blames it fully on the one werewolf he can never conquer again. The only puzzle I still see is his fear of Jack before now.
Posted by x9comega 1 year ago Report
He wasn’t afraid of Jack before now. He barely even remembered that Jack exsisted until Fiona brought him up or he showed up. He didn’t care about Jack, why would he? It’s just some food item, the only reason to care about him is because Fiona seems to for some strange reasons. He didn’t do anything to be malicious to Jack, but rather his intentions were to mold Fiona. Even calling Jack an afterthought would be too generous.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
That's...somewhat understandable, but it feels as though from ch.23, when one reader pointed out, that Arthur was approaching cautiously towards Fiona, and given her some arm distance, I figured that he was weary of mages. But from what you are saying, is that Arthur was more afraid of Fiona than Fiona is afraid of Arthur?
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
Are you referring to this line from #23? "He stopped a number of feet away from their table- maybe a bit too far by most standards ". I intended that more as Arthur not wanting to have to lower himself by going any deeper into the human area, instead beckoning Fiona to come *out* of that area and join *him*. Of course, at the time, that was rather ambiguous, but at this point it should be fairly clear in retrospect.
As for the fear Jack saw in Arthur's eyes, I wouldn't necessarily interpret that as a fear of Jack, specifically. I'd say it speaks more to Arthur's mental state as a whole.
Posted by 2Ron2R 1 year ago Report
Yes 'one reader' did point that out. :) If you look further along that thread the conclusion was definitely not fear of Jack, Ozzy, or any other mages.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
This had me confused for a bit, until I realized the comment thread you're both talking about is on #24, but talking about #23. Looking back at the PM you sent me after, you were pretty dead on.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
That's right. It was your thread in the comments. Still, it was very accurate over 30 Chapters. That's shows insight. Good call.
Posted by Mechdragon1k 1 year ago Report
I wonder if Arthur is going to get eaten soon, maybe not fully digested, just a little digested, because part of me is a softy but it going to hurt and be humbling, maybe Jack can save him or be the pred.
Posted by Perodian 1 year ago Report
Yes! My wish has come true! Arthur got punched! Yeaaaah!
Dramatics aside, I liked how the group was actually conflicted about the scenario. I also found it funny they asked how Fiona's stomach was right in front of her.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
I've been waiting for you to comment here, just so I could say how funny it was to read your previous comment on #59 about Arthur getting punched, *knowing* that he was going to get decked. You were totally right.
Posted by Perodian 1 year ago Report
I think I've been wishing for Arthur to get punched since #56.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
Wish granted :D
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
That situation that had occured reminded me of a special riddle.
The Riddle: What's the best way to defeat your enemy?
The Answer: The best way to defeat your enemy... is to make them your friend.
Posted by magicboy13 1 year ago Report
This was a WONDERFUL development. TBH I was worried how you were gonna handle this revisit, and I'm ecstatic at the way it turned out. I thought there was gonna be a 2-way split or a hasty getaway, but you not only went with the idealistic route but also executed it perfectly. Great job... and excellent positioning for a time skip at the end of the chapter when Jack starts hanging out with the Advanced Pred group in school (I'm guessing that'll be the next one, or the one after the next).
Now I can't help but notice this in your dialogue: "And yet all you could think to do was lash out. Hardly able to think at all. Hardly a move befitting someone in our class. I just couldn’t tolerate a human like Jack falling to such desperation.”
Uhhhh... I think Chelsie was referring to Arthur. "I just couldn't tolerate a top predator like you falling to such desperation" might have been more appropriate? Or am I missing something?
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
First off, thanks! I'm really glad you liked it.
As for the dialogue, I believe it's correct, but you are reading it differently than I intended. A more understandable version of the line might be "I couldn't tolerate Jack falling to a predator acting in such desperation." Jack falling; Arthur's desperation.
Posted by wolfSnack 1 year ago Report
I still feel like there should be SOME kind of justice for Ruby and the other Marked Anonymous people... but that was an incredibly cathartic chapter. Thank you for this, it was spectacular. Great respect from one writer to another, in the way you portrayed Arthur's breakdown and Jack standing up for himself!
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
You're very welcome. Always cool to have another writer giving me props, especially one that I *know* can write a good story. And while I'm not sure I can promise 'justice' in a world like this, I will say that the subject of all the fatalities from the past week is not resolved yet.
Posted by wolfSnack 1 year ago Report
It's funny, because I feel the same way about YOUR writing XD You've got an incredibly elegant touch for emotional dynamics.
Posted by Daduke 1 year ago Report
Speaking of what happened back at the marked meeting house. What happened to Mr. Artor? Did one of the advanced preds gobble him up pafter
all?
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
Obviously. He was with them when Survivors Anonymous fell that night.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
"Obviously" is a bit rude. Also you are incorrect (see comment below).
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
My mistake.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
He was last noted as "the unmarked adult lying unconscious in the corner of the room" at the end of #55. At that point, everyone in the pack was stuffed, so I don't think they physically could have eaten him, even if they wanted to. What happened after that is anyone's guess at this point.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
Just to clarify, that was Ruby's dad, right?
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
Nope. It was Sebastian's Dad.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
Correct. Sebastian's dad.
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
Poor Mr. Artor. He'll be an emotional wreck for the time being, due to losing Sebastian to one of the preds that attacked Survivors Anonymous.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
First losing his wife by a vampire, then losing his son by Arthur, he's gotta be heartbroken. My question is if we're going to see him again?
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
Who knows.
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
It reminded me of this one saying from the movie “Zombieland”:
Take away a man’s son… you truly have given him nothing left to lose.
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
I can only hope that Jack can at least find it in his heart to forgive them… especially Fiona.
Posted by Artthegreat 1 year ago Report
I hope the eye patch color thing is Christine’s lie, because that would mean she should be able to sympathize with the horror of someone you don’t want to be eaten getting eaten, and gives her a history of letting prey go, meaning she would be more likely to be good friend and additional protector of Jack.
Also as a bit of dark humor by dating Fiona he’s also dating Ruby… sort of.
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
I guess as long as that's unrevealed, Chelsie will just be... Schrodinger's Cat XD
And if you think the thing with Ruby is dark, consider this: Given the timing, it's possible that Ruby and Zach were roommates (I mean, a very little bit of Zach by that point, but potentially some amount).
Posted by wolfSnack 1 year ago Report
It's possible that Ruby and Zach left the premises at the same time, too.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
Talk about the endless possibilities.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
IF the eye patch color is a lie, since it IS A RARE GENETIC CHANCE of it happening, then I would make a wager that the bullying happened before the cake. I can see where her empathy came from, if the other stories are true.
With that being said, I wanna say, for the fun of it, that she will try to hit on Jack in the future. Something like "You said Fiona is your best friend. But you never said that she was your girlfriend." And shenanigans issues about. I would not be surprised if this happens because of past stories. Be a funny reaction to the new pack and the school.
I'd say for the record, that if I were playing the game, I'd say the bully story is a lie, 2nd choice is eye patch fact, and the cake story to be the least likely to be a lie.
Posted by Artthegreat 1 year ago Report
I know this isn’t likely to happen but something I could see as a safety measure should Jack get into the Advanced Magic class and have to get hunted by the Advanced Preds, is that Fiona could buy anti-digestive and hunt Jack herself, then they both get their practice and good grades, and she doesn’t need to worry about if her classmates would be willing let Jack go after like she would be.
Posted by Artthegreat 1 year ago Report
I guess it comes down to if she is willing to trust her classmates not to gurgle Jack.
Posted by 5UP3RN0V4 1 year ago Report
To be fair, Jack now has his new predatory friends to protect him.
Posted by Shadow0000 1 year ago Report
I would call them acquaintances for now. There's still a long road ahead. Although the events last week were Arthur's doing, there is a few things that needed to be settled: Pyre's true with Jack is a good start, and the acceptance of the others are very fortunate, they will have to include Ozzy, an advanced mage, to the "off menu" list. There's also Sarabeth to consider, and with Arthur at his lowest, he will seek revenge. Especially toward Jack, for his humiliation, and Fiona, who he was "betrayed".
Then the dynamics between advanced mages and advanced Preds is going to be changing, and I foresee a new challenge for the new pack. Though I wonder about their events in school with Jack is going to be like? And them meeting Sissy and Jane?
Posted by TheDragonBoy 1 year ago Report
And willing to trust *herself* not to gurgle him. Not to mention there's more to worry about than just stomach acids: lack of air, mechanical digestion, not to mention how physically and emotionally uncomfortable that would be for both of them (well, physically uncomfortable for Jack at least).
Not a bad idea on the surface, but probably not something they'd go for if they ever got into that situation.