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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:12 am

Humbug wrote:Yup. It hasn't been very bad in the last few years, but I used to get a lot of shit for my fatal vore preferences, and it got so bad once that the guy wound up getting himself banned by mouthing off to Eka after I reported him for harassment. That was the worst of it, though. Usually I can just take a small gander through a person's gallery and favorites, see what sick garbage they're into, and point out that they're being hypocritical and selective about which kinks they shame, and that they're probably just going after fatal vore because it makes them feel icky, not because of any legitimate moral standpoint. Mentioning that enjoying violence in movies and video games isn't really that different, and that the sexual element isn't that important often helps too. Most of the people who've been legitimately upset by stuff I've drawn (and not just trolling, which I ignore), I've been able to talk down and get to see that they're just being oversensitive about something that is ultimately not that important.

Fatal Vore? On here? That happens on dA all the time but on Eka's? Ooo...Anyways, It's good to see that they're gone now, Eka's doesn't need people like them. But...Why would they jump on you for such a common preference? Loads of people like fatal! :lol:
I think that when you mean "Sick garbage" you mean "Extreme or grotesque content", just so nobody leaps on you, but I understand what you mean. You're making some decent points.
Some people do get in a bit of a knot, but as long as you continue you calm them down and explain that maybe they're being a tad oversensitive, it's all cool. :-D
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:14 am

GBBG wrote:I've never been shamed, luckily, but that could change as I'm uploading a lot more content now than I used to. I don't want to accidentally shame anyone else either, so I always try and word my posts about various topics carefully to avoid upsetting anyone.

Possibly, and as long as you know how to handle any shaming, you'll be good to go!
Slow and steady wins the race, GBBG, good to see you're eloquent with your wording. Lots of flame wars that I've seen on here have usually started from misunderstandings caused by communication flaws.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby KnightleyPaine » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:19 am

I don't get how people can come here to a niche fetish site, and then decide specific variants of niche fetish deserve their contempt.

And then there's the weird desperate people who try to negotiate how your sense of preferences is supposed to work.

Anyhow, personal things. I feel like I have a nonstandard case of this. It matters to me whether or not my roleplay partner is a cis-gendered woman. You get to choose to not disclose, heck, if it sounds creepy if someone asks you that and you no longer want to talk to them, that's fair too.

But who the hell are you to tell me 'it doesn't matter'?

Last I checked, I'm the instance who gets choose what matters to me. I get it, you probably think it doesn't affect a text-based medium. While you're at it, go find a gay dude and explain how a sexual species works and was intended by nature to procreate and on a biological basis. You'd be right and all, but see how well your logic affects how his dick works.

But regardless of what the exact thing is, people usually didn't get to choose to work that way. "How your brain tries to twist it has no affect on the reality of how other people work" needs to be understood for tolerating preferences.

And while we're at it:

No, that decent artist doesn't 'need' to make the exact variation of a scenario you would have preferred, and stop telling them how them choosing to pander to a specific kink ruined it for you personally, what they make isn't meant to be what you personally wanted unless that's the intention (for instance, because you paid them to do so), it's what they personally wanted to make.

And stop going into places meant for content you don't want to see for the sole purpose of telling everyone how 'you don't care much about it' unless the rest of what you're about to say has something relevant to offer.

(Every instance of 'you' in this post is a 'generic you' and isn't meant to imply anything about the current reader, unless what is described applies to them, in which case I meant every bit of offense you take from it. Yes, you specifically.)
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:19 am

merlovinit wrote:Hmm, maybe I'm lucky to produce M/M vore, because annoying straight guys are never going to seek out my work in the first place. =P

I have run into some people who give me a generally weird vibe or that just make me sort of uncomfortable. Like, getting off is more important to them than some basic social etiquette.

There was recently someone on a discord channel that started DMing me to request I draw their character. I said that I pretty much don't draw that type of content, but maybe I would do it someday. Their response was that I should do it for the practice, and also that I'd better never draw their character as a prey or else!

At this point I was sorta done so I just said "k" and they went so far as to tell me that my response wasn't very convincing. Because apparently someone who just said they don't specialise in your character preferences is going to start producing artwork you didn't ask for? Like, what??? At some point this person also said they were popular in that particular discord channel which pretty much just seemed like a passive aggressive threat.

Naturally so, you usually tend to find that people tend to judge based on their sexualities. It's like straight users getting angry because they found gay porn, on a porn site.

It's quite sad, no?

Those requesters at it again! And a very insistent one at that! Always good for getting some lols out of! Manners like those won't get them anywhere, funny that they tried to impose some sort of status onto you too. Quite pathetic if you ask me.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:21 am

BelleJar wrote:idk i guess i've been lucky so far. the closest i've gotten to being shamed for preferences is someone informing me that my disliking of preds who always seem cruel and amoral and have absolutely no consequences for their actions was stupid and unrealistic *cue eye roll*

Disagreeing is fine, disagreeing like this is not going to make friends. I'm not very keen on these sorts of predators neither, they make for uninteresting characters.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:22 am

jaggedjagd wrote:
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GBBG wrote: (I'm not anything actually)...

*Wince* Please don't phrase it that way. I'm asexual, too, and saying things like that make us seem like less of a legitimate sexuality. People who are comepletely accepting of gay marriage have given me a spiel that basically amounted to, "'have you tried not being asexual?" We get thought of as irrelevant or nonexistent often enough as is.

*Wince* Please don't phrase it that way. I'm not anything actually too, and saying things like "*Wince* Please don't phrase it that way. I'm asexual, too, and saying things like that make us seem like less of a legitimate sexuality." make us seem like less of a legitimate sexuality.


....Alright shitpostin' aside, can you understand the point i'm trying to make here? You're becoming what you hate. If GBBG is comfortable with saying they're not anything it is not your place to reprimand them for it. Wasn't the whole reason for this thread to not be dicks to each other for our preferences.

I agree here, to be honest, I see nothing wrong with what GBBG has said. "Not being anything" is a fairly common and modest way of stating Asexuality. It's not erasing any sexual identities or anything, don't worry Cowrie. :)
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:28 am

coop500 wrote:Numerous times, yes. And it mainly boils down to my three preferences, male predators, child prey and nonfatal. I have caught a decent amount of flak from here, there, discord, DA, FA, but mainly here and in the chat. Titles such as me being sexist, a pedophile and my vore preferences being boring, pointless and some even flat out saying 'that's not what vore is about'.

I could explain each and every one of them, or even just the worse ones, but in the end they never prevented me from doing what I love, they never made me stop and doubt myself, call it me having too much pride if you will, or just being sure enough that what I do is not hurting anybody so I have nothing to be ashamed of.

I have felt alone though, lots of times, still do in the vore community. I'm apologetic to say sometimes I am at the most uncomfortable when on vore sites, because my preferences are so alien like to everyone.I have received kinder, but more confused, reactions from normies than vore people, because too many of the vore community are quick to get hostile to defend what they enjoy and belittle anyone not in their circle. Being asexual also doesn't help, as the vore community is packed with horny men (c'mon let's be honest) so that will always raise eyebrows from those quicker to judge.


Oh dear...Paedophile accusations too? That's awful...And from what I've seen of your content, there's absolutely nothing that points to this at all, your stuff's adorable!

That is a brilliant mindset to have, Coop! It's so refreshing to see someone who is so chipper in mindset! Not that there's not any people like this already, but with such terrible accusations like that, it's impressive to see that you've not suffered any confidence dips! Bravo!

Don't be apologetic, I understand what you feel and it's okay to feel this way, your type of Vore is very uncommon and I myself would like to contribute more to it. I wish people would stop jumping head-on into conclusions and kicking people out for harmless preferences.

Asexuality is uncommon, but not a rarity. You might have noticed in this thread that you're not alone. (: )
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:31 am

Eka wrote:I think it is a good time to remind everyone that this site operates on the principle of preference equality. No preferences (kink, fetish, etc.) are considered bad, or good for that matter. Generally speaking, the only reason individual who has this shaming tendency is here because nobody reports their behavior.

If you run into those incidents. I strongly recommend that you report it (By clicking the report button. Or send an anonymous feedback using the feedback forum so something can be done about these people and stop them from populating a website like this.

There are no such thing as bothering the administrator or moderator. That is what they are here for. If they are busy, they can always prioritize issue on their own or pass them off to someone else.

Hello, Eka! Nice to see you here! I'm glad my thread was well placed! I was thinking of making another about the bad experiences people have had relating to Vore role playing, where they can vent in a peaceful environment, if that's alright. :)

And you guys are certainly competent! Friendly too! ^_^
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:35 am

LittleRover wrote:I haven't been shamed for anything so far and actually got nothing but support! But I've only put my head out relatively recently. The only times I've ever let people know about it the response was interest or indifference (although they already knew I am super weird =3). The closest I've ever had is when I've discussed topics of sexuality and legality and found them to have strong views against many of the vore and non-vore themes I am into. Usually its discussions about whether fictional material should be made illegal or not as if its some sort of gateway drug to actually carrying out these acts. Because we are totally all psychopaths as a result of our kinks. It's unfortunate that UK law is very kinkshamy in itself, I just want to draw what I want without feeling its going to be outlawed one day. :-(

Honestly, I am surprised at how nice everyone seems to be around here! Even the cruel sadistic predators appear to be well mannered! :P

I'm also asexual (well, I'm not sexually attracted to anyone or anything IRL at least), and found that people tend to conflate that idea with having no sex drive. If they only knew the truth! >=3

Wonderbar, my man! You've had it smashing!

This is an age-old debate which honestly ends in a "No, we're not all maniacs" and the more exceptional individuals who actually try to eat live creatures and do...other...stuff, end up getting caught and jailed as bad examples to our communities.
It is, and as someone who is in an emotional, Vore related high, I hope the law doesn't try to crash down onto it. But again, the UK's too busy with other ficasos, so I think we will be fine for now.

Literally! Well hey, if I'm going to die painfully, I might as well die to a gentleman! :lol:
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Merodi » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:42 am

Yeah, definetely. I'm actually quite diverse in my tastes, but I need a male predator, who's either human, demi or maybe an appealing monster. Not big on furry or feral preds. And I love M/m, which is another can of worms when you're in a kink that has mostly straight guys. Please note, most straight guys are respectful regardless, and the rest - MLM, nonbinary people, straight girls and WLW - also tend to be chill, even if I've gotten some flak from them too (mostly on tumblr and omegle, same with straight guys)

Mostly it's stuff like "Male preds are so fucking gross" and "Fatal with male preds and female prey is really sexist", sometimes it's hate for the pred if its a character people like as a prey more. Once I've gotten some super racist hate on omegle for liking preds of color (in that case, it would've been a mixed black/asian dude). Also people telling me I'm a pedo for liking shota (as in, cute boys) as both prey and pred in M/M vore while being into straight shota or loli stuff themselves.

There's also me being nonbinary and getting misgendered in art with me in it (despite putting "nonbinary" in the tags/Description), general hate towards that, and some towards me being asexual. But oh well. /shrug
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby KnightleyPaine » Sat Nov 25, 2017 4:45 am

Cowrie wrote:
GBBG wrote: (I'm not anything actually)...

*Wince* Please don't phrase it that way. I'm asexual, too, and saying things like that make us seem like less of a legitimate sexuality. People who are comepletely accepting of gay marriage have given me a spiel that basically amounted to, "'have you tried not being asexual?" We get thought of as irrelevant or nonexistent often enough as is.

As much as it fills my current sleep-deprivation-induced ennui with more loathing to publically agree with the person choosing to write 5+ posts in a row, there's something amazing about this exact thread having an instance of someone policing someone else who has the same general preference on how they should perceive their own preference.

We've come full circle. The thread has transcended. Pat yourselves on the back everyone, I hope you're all happy, this is what we are as a community now.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Jayezox » Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:06 am

Never happened because I don't think I attract as much attention as someone who draws art or frequently uses a chat room.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby fixated1 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:50 am

Also count me down for never having been shamed. The worst I've gotten is "no thanks, I'm not into that," responses to rp requests.

Which is a shame because I thrive on conflict. I'd only be giddy to have someone come after me like that. I've seen it a few times in threads here against other people, and if the trolls haven't been dog piled yet I will jump on them, but usually the community strips them to the bone like a school of angry piranha before I can click reply.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby PizzaPossum » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:38 pm

Never been shamed online either. Furries usually don't give a fuck when they stumble upon someone's weird kinks.

I have had a non vorearephile partner get weirded out at my description of fatal digestion, but that's to be expected really. Most people don't want to think of what happens in the stomach/small intestine anyways. :silly:
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Eka » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:07 pm

Licklash wrote:I was thinking of making another about the bad experiences people have had relating to Vore role playing, where they can vent in a peaceful environment, if that's alright. :)


We discourage this type of posting because they are rarely productive for the site. People love to talk about it but rarely do the actual step into helping us identifies troublemaker. Or actually, improve their communication or handling.

In my experience. An incident like this is rarely straightforward as most people put it. When people vent (or tell a story for that matter), they tend to exaggerate and skip the part that make them look bad. Therefore we don't have a place for people to vent. This is not that kind of site.

Also, please try and keep your replies in the same post. There is no need to quote individual person with a new post each.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Cowrie » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:28 pm

jaggedjagd wrote:
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GBBG wrote: (I'm not anything actually)...

*Wince* Please don't phrase it that way. I'm asexual, too, and saying things like that make us seem like less of a legitimate sexuality. People who are comepletely accepting of gay marriage have given me a spiel that basically amounted to, "'have you tried not being asexual?" We get thought of as irrelevant or nonexistent often enough as is.

*Wince* Please don't phrase it that way. I'm not anything actually too, and saying things like "*Wince* Please don't phrase it that way. I'm asexual, too, and saying things like that make us seem like less of a legitimate sexuality." make us seem like less of a legitimate sexuality.


....Alright shitpostin' aside, can you understand the point i'm trying to make here? You're becoming what you hate. If GBBG is comfortable with saying they're not anything it is not your place to reprimand them for it. Wasn't the whole reason for this thread to not be dicks to each other for our preferences.

Okay, I see your point. I apologize, I'm very sorry. I guess I didn't really think before I posted.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Licklash » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:14 pm

Eka wrote:
Licklash wrote:I was thinking of making another about the bad experiences people have had relating to Vore role playing, where they can vent in a peaceful environment, if that's alright. :)


We discourage this type of posting because they are rarely productive for the site. People love to talk about it but rarely do the actual step into helping us identifies troublemaker. Or actually, improve their communication or handling.

In my experience. An incident like this is rarely straightforward as most people put it. When people vent (or tell a story for that matter), they tend to exaggerate and skip the part that make them look bad. Therefore we don't have a place for people to vent. This is not that kind of site.

Also, please try and keep your replies in the same post. There is no need to quote individual person with a new post each.

Ahhhhh, alright, thanks for answering! ^_^

Okay, sorry for cluttering. :oops: Should I delete most of the replies to clean it up a bit?
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby GBBG » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:14 pm

Funny how I post about wording things carefully to avoid upsetting anyone and that post upsets someone...

Oh well, I identify as Asexual and didn't think anything of phrasing it that particular way, I didn't mean to "demean" it for anyone.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby Cowrie » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:44 pm

GBBG wrote:Funny how I post about wording things carefully to avoid upsetting anyone and that post upsets someone...

Oh well, I identify as Asexual and didn't think anything of phrasing it that particular way, I didn't mean to "demean" it for anyone.

It's okay. I was probably being over-sensitive.
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Re: Have you ever had somebody shame you for your preference

Postby GBBG » Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:46 pm

Eh, no problem. I'm still very much a closeted asexual IRL so am not used to taking flak for it like you have. In that context I understand your reaction. :)
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