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My response to the latest censorship scandal in the fandom. I won't name the artists to avoid involving them, nor the website in cause which should be easy to guess anyway. This incident was made special by the fact that several popular figures in the fandom have been banned without warning for something they've drawn... in at least one case this likely impacted the artist's life and ruined their career, since they've also lost a production group owned together with other users who weren't themselves accused of anything. The artists were not even punished for what they did on the site in cause, but for things that supposedly happened on other websites owned by entirely different people... one case involved an user lying to site admins about how tags on another art page worked.
The purpose of this image is to face the fandom with a harsh but clear reality about where we're headed: Certain furries are putting this fandom on par with humanity's most shameful factions and practices, for no reason other than to satisfy a grudge toward a community they stubbornly wish to associate with sexual harassment. A misguided vocal minority continues to demand the criminalization of art that's sensitive to them, recruit others into their persecution of artists, and literally destroy the lives of real people to defend those of fictional characters from fictional dangers. You can't burn books but not call it book burning, no matter how much you tell yourself "this time it must be different even if it looks the same"... have at least the guts to stand next to the people who's behavior you're imitating, as history won't erase itself to grant you your ignorance.
All images used here are under a CC0 / CC-BY / CC-BY-SA license while also being covered by the fair use exemption. The Nazi image is in no way used to promote that group which I vehemently oppose. The images were used to depict the communities they're referring to, and hold no references to any individuals that appear in them... the fursuit photo is over a decade old and I don't know any of the people involved in it. Feel free to do anything you wish with this submission under the licenses of the images contained. Original sources:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_tycoons_Messengers_reading_the_sentence-J._M._W._Silver.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_102-02134,_Bad_Harzburg,_Gr%C3%BCndung_der_Harzburger_Front.jpg
https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/File:GR_FC2007_fursuit_post-parade_photoshoot.jpg
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Posted by Cobbly 6 years ago Report
Samurai are Japanese, not chinese,
Posted by MirceaKitsune 6 years ago Report
Ouch... I knew I'd mess something up despite doing some research on the matter first. Thanks for pointing that out.
Posted by Casdan1492 6 years ago Report
"Degenerate" paintings were never destroyed in the III Reich as far as I know either. They were just removed from the public museums and galleries.
Also, what did those artists produce exactly?
Posted by MirceaKitsune 6 years ago Report
I think one of them was banned for drawing a cub-looking character cockvoring someone on Inkbunny... they didn't post the full version on FA, but still got banned there due to profile association or something. The other was banned because someone modified their tags here on Eka's, then told FA's fiction police that they are evidence of his dinosaur girls not being over 18 (what a glorious preoccupation) thus he technically posted cub sex on the site... thankfully they cleared that up and got unbanned.
Posted by MianQ 6 years ago Report
Not a furry, but this sounds very interesting. How would I go about learning more about this trend?
Posted by MirceaKitsune 6 years ago Report
If you look at any artwork depicting character under 18 on some art sites, you'll likely see at least a few comments where people insult and harass the artist. On FA the issue goes further as the site has some very poor and strict rules: Users that have nothing better to do with their time establish search parties checking what people draw to see if their characters are aged to their liking... if not they complain to the mods to get them banned, in some cases even making up false evidence (as was Shyguy's case last week).
Posted by Shadow_Fox 6 years ago Report
Comparing the actions of a private organization/group to those of a government isn't entirely accurate. This would be more like a museum refusing to display an artist's work.
Posted by MirceaKitsune 6 years ago Report
That is a valid point: We are talking about websites removing something they decide to ban from their servers, which is entirely their right. There are a few reasons why I'm still holding those actions against them in this case:
1 - The artists in cause were banned not for what they did on Furaffinity, but for what they did on other art sites and was seen by FA mods. The moment the site decides to judge people based on what they draw across the entire internet, in places they do not own and which aren't in any partnership with them... that is a scarier problem.
2 - I'm in part addressing a general mentality. Some of those sites don't necessarily do this because it's the preference of their admins per say: They either do it because of outdated laws, or because the site's community is spreading this ideology and the mods are constrained to appease them.
3 - When it's large websites that people rely on to communicate with their community or even for their income, mods are expected to be at least a bit more understanding. You can think of it like this: Imagine someone relied on medicine I gave them to not be in pain... technically the medicine is my property and I have every right to stop giving it to them at any time and for any reason, but would I be any less of a bad person if I did stop especially for no good reason?
Posted by MirceaKitsune 6 years ago Report
A few clarifications I forgot to make: The purpose of this was NOT to scream out "furries are Nazis because I don't agree with them"... I know that impression often exists when comparing something to that faction. The purpose was to explain that next to Nazis and some of China's crazed emperors, furries are the only major group (at least to my knowledge) that has passionately supported efforts to keep writers / painters / etc from being allowed to express a given theme or idea through art. The details obviously differ, but I still find this fact disturbing and necessary to point out.
Also I'm aware that some countries still have laws regulating fiction, thus some art sites may be constrained into censorship out of fear of getting in trouble. While I have more understanding toward this situation, my statement primarily addresses those who are sincerely supporting these behaviors. A lot of users openly comment on art sites saying things like "ban this disgusting pedo" because someone dared not age their characters to their liking... that's not something anyone's constraining them to do.
Posted by Lord_Mitchell 6 years ago Report
I fully agree, it's getting out of hand.
Posted by Doggermeister 6 years ago Report
People's art shouldn't be blocked and the artists life be ruined because of one piece of art. But underage material is underage material for a reason, it's illegal. A strike system should be in place instead of a "One hit and you're out" deal, so the artist knows that something isn't right but that the artist can do good by avoiding their previous mistake, situations which are in fact Pedophilia especially. People have a natural gut instinct to hate even fictional characters that are presented as underage in lewd situations, it's wrong by definition because Children cannot consent. But verbal abuse and slander is wrong, there needs to be a boundary between "People that do that and are real pedophiles and do not deserve to be on the site" and "Artists just drawing what they want"