Posted by Dolsilyol 1 year ago Report

Hahaha, fuck this is good! Exactly something my wolfy would do, looooveee this.

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Posted by foxyoreos 1 year ago Report

Thanks! <3

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Posted by stearwing 1 year ago Report

Permavore is a strange tag here, considering that no other information on the prey is given.

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Posted by foxyoreos 1 year ago Report

I guess beans might use that tag in different ways? I take it to mean the vore death is permanent and there's not going to be any reformation or rebirth or anything, the character is just gone :3c

So for a piece like this I'm trying to make it clear that the "aftercare" is completely tongue-in-cheek (or dick in... whatever, you know what I mean X3). It's not aftercare in a teasing way for a prey that would ever show up again, this is just a wolf disrespecting its prey's remains. No ambiguity, prey is permanently dead and gone.

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I think in some instances fluffers might disagree on what tags mean. This is an extension of my struggles to figure out whether #reformation gets tagged with #fatal or #non-fatal. To me, especially if it's immediate than reformation isn't fatal, the prey doesn't die, they reform. Especially because fluffers that dislike fatal vore usually don't feel the same aversion to reformation. But I tagged a piece like that on here once, and then somepony corrected that tag and said that reformation should be tagged as #fatal.

So I shrugged and started using #permavore instead for situations where I want to make it clear that prey is never coming back, and now here we are, lol X3

If there's any agreed on way of signaling "this prey is gonna be OK" vs "this prey is permanently dead", I'll use it, I just haven't found one. Not that I'm always consistent about it either, I try my best to be really thorough but I do forget tags sometimes X3

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Posted by stearwing 1 year ago Report

Well, it is my understanding that permavore is a profile-play thing, i.e. not "that character is dead in that particular scene", but "that character will never be used again anywhere".

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Posted by foxyoreos 1 year ago Report

Hm... I think that's exactly what I mean by the tag though? :3

This prey is not coming back, they're dead dead. This isn't a recurring character that's getting play digested, no reformation, this isn't non-canon or anything, it's not restricted to this picture. The prey here is completely, permanently eliminated.

I try to tag things like that when I remember to because I know that it can bother fluffers a lot. If there's a different tag that means the same thing, then I don't mind using it, but when I draw vore that has that sense of finality to it I do want to use a tag that allows beans to either search or block it. And since Aryion's tag blocking systems don't allow for conditional tag expressions, that needs to be a single tag.

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I've used #permadeath before, I can do some research to see if fluffers on here use those two tags differently and if it would be better for me to use that instead of #permavore. I'm fine with using whatever tags make sense to viewers. But ultimately for me it comes down to the tag's purpose. It's hard for me to imagine somepony blocking permavore and not wanting this piece to be hidden, because the vibe of this piece is meant to be the same as the vibe of any other permavore situation, it's a drawing about the permanent and irrevocable erasure of a prey. Regardless of whether or not the viewer gets to know a prey's name, they still canonically had a name and are permanently dead and not coming back.

Apawlagies, I don't mean to push back on anything or argue, but it's very important to me that pieces with this vibe have a tag that specifically describe them and that the tag is one that fluffers would know exists and know to block. I don't think that tags like #fatal are enough to serve that purpose, especially if they're being applied to pieces with reformation. To me that's too general of a category to be useful in filtering out this more... well... permanent vore. I don't know another phrase to describe what the picture shows. Personifying the prey and driving home that the prey was an individual that is now permanently dead is deliberate.

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Posted by foxyoreos 1 year ago Report

I've done a few pieces where even if the prey is being killed and not reformed, the piece still isn't pushing that idea, or it's not fully cannon, or where the prey as a *character* isn't really the focus of the piece. I don't think I used #permavore on any of the Lulu Pikachu PokeVore cards for example because sure it's death, but that's a character that's part of a branching path game, they're not permanently dead, not really, it's just one outcome that can happen to them.

I guess all that to say I'm welcome to changing tags if anypony has suggestions, I'm happy to get tagging input, please give it <3 I want to use tags in a way that the community understands and that aren't surprising to anypony.

But I'm not sure I see a difference between what you're describing and how I use the tag, and while I'm open to changing how I tag things, it would need to be a change that still allowed fluffers to easily filter or block my stuff to the same precision using predictable tags that they understand and will know to block.

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Posted by foxyoreos 1 year ago Report

Sorry, reading this again and realizing it might come off as more aggressive than I intend, I don't always have the easiest time signaling what I'm feeling >w<

I'm happy to get tagging suggestions. When I go into this much detail in an answer, it's because I spend a lot of time thinking about this stuff and trying to figure out how best to tag posts, so if somepony asks why I used a tag, the thought process then comes spilling out, and it's usually a long one X3

I have thoughts about it because before I started using permavore/permadeath for some pieces I had almost this exact same conversation with myself trying to figure out if it was the appropriate tag to use. So it's not that I'm mad, I've just already thought about it a lot and it's easy for me to accidentally slip into a long-winded explanation.

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