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> Reach a compromise
You frown a bit at Myla. You decide to explain that you're not goint to just abandon Tassri or send her on a mission hoping that she'll fail. Even though you still don't trust her a ton, you don't want to just drop her like that. You want to at least get her somewhere where she can properly get a new start, prefferably somewhere in the Empire.
"This is a mistake Floria." Myla shakes her head. "You remember the last time you decided to keep someone around even though they weren't exactly trustworthy? Edris got tried to get everyone killed! From what I heard, she damn near succeeded with Bluebell. I've already told you before. I'm not out to do something amazing or whatever. I just want to avoid dying. And right now, I'm not so sure if sticking with you is the best idea for me."
You tell her that she can't just make demands like this. You have to get everyone's input on something, as you're a team. "Like hell if I care!" Her voice is starting to get louder. "I'm not travelling with someone who murders with no regrets! You can come up with whatever excuses you want, but I'm not buying it. Besides, I'm not making a decision for the team, I'm making a decision for me."
You plead with her to at least give her a chance. It won't take too long to reach the Empire, and after that, you can make a proper choice on what to do. You made a deal with Tassri to travel with her for some time, and you plan to keep it. "Then you can do it without me." Myla finally says, obviously angry. "And without Jates as well. I'm not gonna let you put us in danger like that."
So in the end, she's giving you an ultimatum. You shake you head, saying that she's being unreasonable with this. She barely knows Tassri, and it's unfair for her to judge her so harshly. "Unreasonable? You're the one who wants to team up with a bloody murderer! You saw it in your fucking dream! I don't even want to know what your bullshit reasoning is with this!"
At this point, even you're getting frustrated with her. Your own voice is picking up volume, and it's quickly turning into a shouting match. As you continue to fruitlessly argue, Myla finally loses her temper and swipes at you with her claws. You fall backwards as they slice across your face, leaving a few light cuts.
Myla looks down at you, immediately realizing that she lost her temper. "Get... Get out." You can tell that she didn't intend to do that, but rather than risk getting her temper up again, you do as she says, and leave the room. She definitely needs time to cool off after that.
Outside the room, you rub your cheek a bit. It stings, and is bleeding just a little, but you're more hurt over the fact that Myla is being so stubborn. Looking down the hall, you spot Elykae heading your way. No doubt, she heard the yelling.
"Floria?" The cervidae looks at you and notices your injury, quickly making her way over to you. "What happened? I could hear that you and the wolfkin were having... a disagreement but..." She looks at your injury. "Come, we should put something on that." You've had enough arguing for one day, so you agree and follow her back to her room.
After a few minutes, Elykae has put a bandage on your cheek, though you could have probably just healed it with your magic. You explain the arguement to her, and about how Myla seems to be completely unwilling to travel with Tassri.
"I... I see." She stays silent for a moment. "I suppose I understand her distrust, but even so, I-" As she speaks, the door opens up as Tassri enters the room.
"There you are. I was wondering what happened." The spider woman approaches you. "I take it things did not go too well with her?" You hesitantly nod, explaining Myla's refusal to travel with her. Tassri crosses her arms, thinking for a moment. "Well, I suppose we can't force her. I did warn you that restoring her willpower could have this sort of effect. Though... I admit that I thought she would be a bit more appreciative..."
"Regardless, this is a problem." Elykae speaks up again. "I assume that you'd rather be travelling with the wolfkin. You did go through the effort of finding a cure for her."
"I would again offer to make her more agreeable, but I get the feeling that you might still be against the idea." Tassri looks at you. "Though I feel that would be the only way to keep our group together at this point."
"We could..." The deergirl starts to speak, but hesitates. "We could split ways. I could take Mage Tassri with myself and head to the Empire. Perhaps we could meet again there. Although..." She doesn't seem very confident about this idea, though remembering that she doesn't fully trust Tassri, she probably doesn't like the idea of being alone with her.
"There's still the matter of the dwarf." The arachne looks at you. "If we split ways, then there's little reason not to do it, since there's no real threat to your group. Though I can assure you that you don't need to worry. I know how to work discreetly."
It's still a lot of decisions to make, but it's your place as the leader to make them. You know that most of your group is in favor of letting Tassri deal with the dwarf, though Elykae seems hesitant about the idea. As for Tassri, she seems to be either distrusted or neutral with most of your party. Keeping her around is going to take a lot of work, and you doubt there's a lot you could do to make Myla come around, aside from messing with her head.
It's a difficult situation you find yourself in, but there are decisions to be made.
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To be fair, it would have taken a really good roll to even have a chance at bringing Myla around at this point.
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Posted by ShotgunJesus 8 years ago Report
Well, I know one person attacked us here, and the other two didn't. I'd side with the ones who didn't, myself.
I don't really get why we like Myla sometimes.
Posted by nyanyan 8 years ago Report
It's mostly just emotional attachment. I mean, we've had her the longest out of our group, literally from day one of our adventure (in 'game' that is, it was a few posts down the line IRL) so we've grown attached. Also we've had more sex with her than anyone else...so...there's that too :P
Posted by Humbug 8 years ago Report
She's also one of the best moral compasses we have. She's rough, yeah, but when the chips are down, she's tried to reign us in from doing some awful things. Plus, she was VERY right about the biggest failure we had so far: The ambush from a vengeful elf bandit. Her judgment of character is worth something, I think.
Posted by nyanyan 8 years ago Report
True, she has yet to be wrong about anything except her hatred of the empire, and that was just her condition being a pain.
Posted by YesImCanadian 8 years ago Report
Totally agree. She's put up with a lot from us. As Humbug said, she's been right about everything with the exception of the Empire and that's because of the potion poisoning. For as much as I've grown to like Tassri, she would complicate things for us. Not just with Myla, but because she's an arachnid (not hating, just stating a fact).
Posted by Rayen 8 years ago Report
I mean, we'd have to find places that have wide doors. :U
Silly fatspider. Such a hassle. :U
Posted by tuckjames 8 years ago Report
Birb i blame you for not letting me use my code could off avoided the whole thing
Posted by Razgriz 8 years ago Report
because herm and relationship? but i agree, this could be the straw that breaks the camels back. Though I'd try and help her with as much gold as she wants, to be honest. I do wanna see her cured.
Posted by MontyMiyagi2513 8 years ago Report
Personally take Tassri to the Empire while everyone else takes Myla to get cured
Posted by Sergit 8 years ago Report
I'd suggest the opposite. Have Elykae, Garret and Bluebell take Tassri to the empire. Jates and Floria could go with Myla on a side trip to get her properly healed, or at least, to visit her hometown.
Floria seems to dislike being part of a big group, so let's split in two groups, one of three with Myla (Group A) and another of four, with Tassri (Group B). Also, appoint Elykae as the leader of the B group. Tell Garret and Bluebell to listen to her and that, should anything happen, rush to a designated point with group A. This could be Myla's village or any other point in our itinerary.
As for the dwarf, Elykae and Tassri can handle together the take down operation, with Garret and Bluebell waiting for them to aid in the escape.
A flying mount and a really fast mount, they seem like they'd be the best at getting the pair out of trouble.
Meanwhile, Jates and Floria will have Myla apologize for behaving so rashly, and once we are all made up, Group A departs from Malor, after Group B initiates the operation 'Dwarf Hunt'.
Posted by Sergit 8 years ago Report
*Not Floria, it's Myla who seems to dislike being part of a big group.
Posted by Humbug 8 years ago Report
Absolutely nothing Myla said was wrong. I don't know why people are so intent on keeping Tassri around. XD
Posted by Rayen 8 years ago Report
I know of two very large reasons. :V
Hehehehe. :V
Posted by Humbug 8 years ago Report
loltrue.
Posted by nyanyan 8 years ago Report
+1 to both of these things xP
Posted by Thagrahn 8 years ago Report
I can think of a third reason!
Tassri like showing off the first two reasons!
Posted by Razgriz 8 years ago Report
Myla was a bandit and a murderer, she's not exactly preaching the choir. Tassri was defending herself and what she thought was her home, even if she was cruel; it's no worse or better than attacking people for possessions and eating travellers.
Posted by Humbug 8 years ago Report
The difference is that Myla seems to think of others as people, and she's capable of remorse. It's pretty clear she has a conscience.
Tassri sees people as test subjects and things to be manipulated. Rayen's been giving us some pretty blatant hints that Tassri's a sociopathic manipulator, like the fact that she changes how she talks to others depending on her initial (usually race-based) impression of them or her willingness to do things most normal people would consider unthinkable.
That doesn't mean, of course, that Tassri is actively out to get us or means us harm or anything, but it does mean that the second we stop being useful to her, she might turn on us, and considering how often Floria fucks up, I could see Tassri considering her to be not worth the trouble pretty quick here.
Posted by Rayen 8 years ago Report
Floria feels mild offense at that statement.
:V
Posted by Humbug 8 years ago Report
Good. She deserves it, Miss "I Want Every STD." XD
Posted by Schpadoinkle 8 years ago Report
Tassri is hot.
She is, however, not a good person.
Myla is hot.
She is a good, if stubborn and aggressive, person.
Not exactly a hard decision here.
Posted by Chaotiquos 8 years ago Report
Splitting up seem the best option, letting Elykae and Tassri go by themselves (after all, it's her that wanted to have the spider-lady as an ally...). Also remember that we cannot completely trust nether of them...
Posted by JiklokEmisaryOfSteel 8 years ago Report
It would seem as though mylady has little choice in the matter. Attempting to disuade the many is not her strong suit. (Sitting down now unbuckling sword holster from back.) Passion for aiding all is also an equally great pain it seems. Quite frustrating indeed. I believe if we side with Lady myla the drider lass will fall back to her prejudice even more, condemning her to a hard and potentially evil life. I feel only mylady has a chance of trully changing Madam Tassri,it is regretful to say but I suggest we stay with Myla on this choice. I will speak no more of the matter.
May steel line thy path
Posted by paltiel 8 years ago Report
Ouch.
The underlying aggressiveness and violence from Myla's potion poisoning are still there. Couple it with her returned willfulness and you get... this. v_v
Real post, later.
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Posted by Rayen 8 years ago Report
How are you so sure that it's not just Myla's actual personality? :V
Posted by paltiel 8 years ago Report
Actually, Dulstaft's comments on how Myla was before. That's what I've been going by.
If he's wrong, then he deserves a good lecturing-to by the Goddess. ^_~
Posted by TotallyRandom 8 years ago Report
I agree with Myla that Tassri is not completly honest with us. But neither is Myla. Remember who cheated on the bounty for Kornic and Nysk?
Both have killed people. Myla as a bandit and Tassri in the mine. And Tassri had at least the self defense motive.
I don't think Tassri is plotting against the group, as she has nothing to gain from it. If she wanted to kill/eat us, she had the advantage in the mine.
We don't split up today. We will talk to Myla again later. Throw her jacket to her and tell her that we made the deal with the spider to get her cured. We promised to get her cured and we still plan to do so. If she doesn't want our help anymore, she can go back to her bandit life and murder people.
For the dwarf copy paste from yesterday.
Operation Payday
- Tassri offered to deal with the dwarf and skip our trade. Also she want's us to trust her more. So we take her offer.
- Elykae can't go with Tassri. If a grentalian spy is seen attacking an influential alliance nobleman, it could easily lead to Sidol joining the war along Messai.
- The whole group needs some kind of alibi, or else we are fast suspects. Also Tassri must not be seen leaving the town.
- Late afternoon/ early night Floria and another party member could pretend to be drunk and fighting among each other near a gate. There should only be a few guards on duty and when they come to break up the fight, Tassri can slip out.
- We also could arrange Tathsu's release and blame the dwarf for sending them down, despite knowing that they were not prepared. Make up a story how he used adventurers to keep the monster feed, so it leaves the miners alone. If she then leaves the city, she would be a prime suspect too.
- If the opportunity arises, Floria could follow Tassri in the sky. So we can see, how she deals with the dwarf. (I want to see that.)
- We should then meet with her again in the morning outside the town. We want to leave before the news hits Malor.
Posted by paltiel 8 years ago Report
Agreeing with this, but I'd be less mean while giving her the jacket. We know that she's still sick and that's the cause of some of her behavior.
Posted by JiklokEmisaryOfSteel 8 years ago Report
If mylady does refuse to leave Tassri then I agree that she should make a prominent statement to Lady Myla. The wolf lass is prideful for certain. Perhaps a bold statement could teach her to comply. However Myla is definitely an alpha state of mind and would respond with an attack to show her authority in turn. This would destroy any chances of keeping hold of her most likely, giving mylady heartbreak and grief.
Posted by nyanyan 8 years ago Report
Tassri's not as 'innocent' as your suggesting. (I know you're not actually calling her that, I just couldn't think of a better word :/)
She has mind magic. So, rather than kill others she could have, perhaps, used her powers to make them believe there had been nothing there and sent them away. But instead she uses them for practice and kills just because they found her living there. I bet she never even tried to talk to the ones who found her.
On the other hand, Myla was forced into banditry. She probably has killed, yes, but as a slave to bandits, she was probably told she had to bring in a certain amount of income per day/week/month or they'd torture/kill her, or she was forced to fend for herself without aid from her 'masters'. And as a bandit, all she had to do was incapacitate someone and take there stuff. I doubt she killed unless absolutely needed, she's never been that aggressive (as seen with how she was so easy to sway to our side).
In either case, even if it was in self defense, and Tassri IS more innocent than I think she is, that just means they were both killing for pretty much the same reason: Self-Preservation.
As such, I feel Tassri and her complete and utter lack of remorse at taking lives is likely the worse of the two. And when was the last time Myla was wrong about something being a bad idea? Oh yeah, never.
Posted by Razgriz 8 years ago Report
We're already suspects. We literally told someone who won't bend the rules like that, we want to kill the dwarf and have a plan. It's bad news. And being responsible for setting Tassri on him, will only lower his opinion of us for bad decision making.
Posted by Jondo 8 years ago Report
To play devil's advocate, the person Tassri killed broke into Tassri's home with the intention of killing or getting rid of her. If we take Tassri's story of being persecuted for being a Nope at face value, Tassri stands to gain more than anyone else in our party by staying with us because we are her ticket into civilized society. I don't think shes THAT bad seeing as she went through with healing Myla, and if Myla disliking Tassri AFTER Tassri messed with her minf is any indication, she did what she said she would and actually healed Myla.
From a character perspective, I would like to stay with Myla because that is what i think Floria would do. From a gameplay perspective, Tassri offers a more interesting game because she will offer more options than the "good" options weve done so far.
I say we tell Myla that we are keeping Tassri around because healing her wasn't permanent, and as of right now, Tassri is our best chance to keep Myla herself. NOT traveling with Tassri could potentially be worse than travelling with her. Ask Myla to travel with Tassri until we get to the Empire and find someone to cure her for good. After that, we can decide whether or not to keep Tassri around.
Posted by nyanyan 8 years ago Report
To mess with your mind just a bit I have a little warning sign going off in the back of my head.
Tassri is capable of mind magic, we are not. We have NO idea what Tassri actually did. She could have just changed things around and made Myla how we thought she should be, while changing her in a way that benefits her.
How does Myla disliking her benefit Tassri? Easy. A party that doesn't trust their allies is easy to defeat. It's self-defense, or a plan to make it easier to take advantage of us. The three options she gave us, in this situation, would have been almost a completely moot point. She'd have seeded the hatred or some other trust hurting element no matter what.
But hay, that's just a theory, a RPG Adventure theory~! Thanks for reading. *is slammed for copyright* (and yes, though it sounds weird, a rpg is the propper grammar here. Grammar is weird sometimes...)
Posted by Jondo 8 years ago Report
I thought about that, and I was and still am against her using mind magic on us and our friends. She could have messed with Myla further, but this update sounds like the old Myla. I don't think Tassri is lying to us because she stands to gain more by befriending us. With us, she can walk around town freely and rest easy in a bed instead of being hunted and sleeping in caves. Thats not to say I trust her, but I trust her slightly more than the spy. Gameplay wise, keeping Tassri around makes our ingame choices much more interesting.
Posted by tyrion13 8 years ago Report
Maybe it's time to put our wolfi down... someones throat ;)
Also jates in in big danger around her.
Posted by Xinless 8 years ago Report
So how many times has myla hit us now? Yeah even if she means well I'm not one to enjoy getting a beating to get her point across, she can travel seperatley but not alone she might not like elykae but I think maybe she should tag along with her I don't know who else though would feel bad splitting bluebell and Garret via diff groups. It would be cool if elykae could stay with us but I mean might be hard for myla to get into the empire without her and there's also the matter of that naga friend she doesn't know elykae is being well treated/ not dead so I'm worried that will comeback to bite us if elykae herself isn't around to clear it up.
Alright there's probably people with more detailed arguments then myself but I'm still all for wanting to keep tassri around/get to know her better. Yeahh her bust is awesome but I'm more biased because 1:Arachne 2: a lot of others don't like her/don't trust
It's like I said in the previous i really hope tassri proves everyone wrong and makes them feel like idiots...in a good way! Lol
Also she's worlds more interesting than any so far in my opinion so yeah I want to see her character develop more, I'm not saying like some big change but I'd at least like to have a definitive loyalty between us.
I also really want to know what does tassri want to do? I mean like would she want to continue traveling with us? Or would she prefer to settle down somewhere? I mean if she lets us at least I would want to try to keep our agreement for a better life.
It might be very hard on the group but I think if we put the effort in for Tassri it'll pay off in the end. So I think yeah send tassri for that mission, tell her to be careful :( we know she can take care of herself to a degree but really hope we aren't sending her to her death. I think we should set up a rendezvous point with her while also plan ahead just in case she needs our help I hope not but Yknow if things don't go well and she gets wounded she can have some place where we could heal her and retreat? So yeah set up a plan to meet her on success but also have a backup plan if things go bad, don't want tassri being put in chains or worse
Posted by Kartomic 8 years ago Report
Again, the last time we ignored Myla's advice, bad things happened. Ever since we took on Elykae and Tassari, tension within the group has increased, so I do not believe it's worth it to keep them around. Wish the two of them the best of luck, and cut them loose.
Posted by DeityV 8 years ago Report
Freaking dammit.... Well, we've already left Myla behind once and I'm not about break up our party entirely for a new character we have yet to build trust with. After things cool down, let's talk with Myla again and possible go with the dwarf strategy. Even though what she says about the arachne is somewhat true, she still helped cure Myla's head. Plus, she seems to be okay with Elykae now, so let's go with the dwarf plan and spectate from afar and see what happens. That also gives some more time and it does go along with what Myla said earlier. Ideal situation is to somehow patch the party up entirely or find a place where we can drop off Tassri and perhaps revisit in case we need any mental treatment for Myla.
Posted by AnominableBreadman 8 years ago Report
Floria should probably hold off on Giving Myla back Konic's jacket for a really long while. Floria should also probably no longer talk with Myla, perhaps until they get to the empire and get her cured. As far as I'm concerned, talking (or giving any attention at all apprently) to Myla until then would not only be painful, but an absolute waste of time.
Anyone who says otherwise needs to remember how unhealthy Floria and Myla's relationship has been before her poisoning ever kicked in.
Posted by The-Lonely-Gamefreak 8 years ago Report
Seems we'll be missing out using Myla a lot at this point, let alone at all if she keeps at it. In the mean time, I still say we should deal with the dwarf where we, as a group and Tassri in the shadows, try to convince him to give us our pay. If not, we have Tassri change his mind and make far more charitable than he'd like.
And I've seen some people talk about the jacket Myla's been wearing. I still think we should leave it with the tailor, giving him the armor we acquired from Tassri in the mines. Probably give the other elf her clothes and crossbow back while we're at it.
Posted by YesImCanadian 8 years ago Report
I'm not entirely sure if I like the dwarf idea, but it is interesting. The one problem I see with it, is if he gets cured, he could remember us and send people after us.
As for the jacket upgrade, I still agree (considering I originally suggested it). And we gave the elf her stuff back, Rayen has confirmed that.
Posted by The-Lonely-Gamefreak 8 years ago Report
Even if he remembers, how can he know what was done and prove anything? Even if he has allies, we should be gone long enough before his influence can reach us.
And yes, we both agreed to get the jacket done. I must've overlooked giving her clothes back, so alrighty then.
Posted by Jogoon 8 years ago Report
In a comment I had made early, i had expressed a belief that something like this may happen, and I stick with what I had said in it. Stay with Myla and send Elykae and Tassri on there way.(The comment I am referring to is on page 157, if any one cares to read it.)
Posted by The_Prof 8 years ago Report
I want to side with Myla on this. She's a fairly good judge of character. Floria needs to apologize for not considering Myla's feelings about this.
If it comes down to Myla or Tassri take the wolf girl, she's proven trustworthy time and again and losing her is just not worth it.
as for Tassri, have a discussion between Myla or Elykae about the issue. You don't want someone as potentially dangerous as her roaming about, but leaving her along with Elykae would be putting her life at risk and you don't want that to happen. So time for a team meeting to get things set
Posted by paltiel 8 years ago Report
The last time Floria ignored Myla's advice was by letting Elykae join the party. Nothing bad's happened since then, so maybe Myla's advice isn't perfect?
I'd kill to know what Myla thought were the lies spoken by Tassri, but she never voiced them... *sighs*
At this point, I'm somewhat more strongly suspecting a test on Tassri's part, because it's as if our Wolfkin's buttons were purposely pushed. (Please say it with me: As expected of a mind mage!) Not very nice, yes, but this is how she learns others' trustworthiness. Harsh upbringing not permitting anything less than all that, etc, etc.
Myla might've failed her test? That said, I want to continue to play the spider's game...
Granted, our wolfkin will be furious when she learns of this, but then, when isn't she? ~_^
Agreeing with Tyrion13 above, I'm kinda concerned for Jates if she's left alone in the woof's company. But, let's not take a hard action on this; Suggest to Jates that she get an additional escort besides Myla if it comes to that, and explain why.
Lastly, another worry: Myla hates nobles and may throw a tantrum if we try to accept anything from our Catkin noble contact in Erada.
We still need to go to Erada to drop off Marcus' letter, bring Elykae to the commander, and buy equipment before taking the airship to Grental.
Posted by YesImCanadian 8 years ago Report
OK, I admit, Myla's advice isn't perfect (no one's is), but she was still being affected by the potion poisoning.
As for the airship, I'd rather not take it unless we have to. The proper cure for Myla probably won't be cheap. Same as the airship.
We could ask Kaiti (the cat girl medic from the raid on the bandit base for everyone who forgot) or the Commander to help us out in this regard, but we would probably owe them after.
Posted by paltiel 8 years ago Report
Wasn't an airship the only way to get to Grental? Yeah, the price worries me, too.
Hmm... Elykae has offered us a boon. Ask her what she thinks the treatment will cost (if at all- gettin' a whole socialist / free / cheap medical care vibe from Grental) and see if she will help direct us where to go.
Thank you! I forgot Kaiti's name. Granted, she's the noble Myla might freak out about. ^^; Myla was still incapacitated when we met her, I think?
Posted by Rayen 8 years ago Report
Myla was awake when we got to know more about Kaiti. She may not have caught all of what she told us though. :V
Posted by RavenXeo 8 years ago Report
The reason we trusted Edris was because of Myla in the first place. SHE wanted to give Edris a chance and we trusted that initial judgement and our history with Myla in general. We thought we could change another life from bandit to hero.. but even our original recruit is a terrible person. Anybody remember that time she made us eat Jates with every intention of having us digest her? She always defaults to shouting and hitting and this time she drew blood. what if next time she swipes off the mark and takes out an eyeball?
Lets go tell Jates what Myla has forced on us and onto Jates herself and see what she thinks.
Posted by YesImCanadian 8 years ago Report
Myla was being careful. While I wouldn't have agreed with what she did, I can understand why she did it.
Myla has only hit us to knock sense into us, or it was by accident. And when she hit us, she realized what she was doing and immediately stopped. She told us to leave as to not hurt us even more.
Posted by RavenXeo 8 years ago Report
making US leave so she doesn't hit us again when she has struck us PREVIOUSLY instead of trying to control HERSELF.
Sounds like a great ally right? 'Why control my own actions when I can control others instead.'
Also striking by accident doesn't negate the fact that the strike could wind up being a permanent issue. If she swipes too high she could gouge an eye, if she swipes too low she could cut open our throat. All because she refuses to have a conversation she isn't in charge of.
Posted by paltiel 8 years ago Report
Holy cow, you're absolutely right! Myla was responsible for Edris, she completely misread her.
It was in ARPG 2-54 ( http://aryion.com/g4/view/336120 )
I always thought it was Floria's screw-up. (Since the majority of them are. ^.- )
Posted by The-Lonely-Gamefreak 8 years ago Report
Well, it was also our screw up as Myla later regretted her decision when Edris tempted us to go back to the fort with her own group.
This situation is quite similar, as that Elykae is the one who wanted Tassri, but now she is having doubts. I am not trying to persuade to one side or the other, but to just inform of how close these situations seem to be. The difference, however, has been that we've been completely open with Tassri, whereas with Edris we kept secrets from her; both of them are quite keen with trust, and I hope we don't break the arachne's or it may be game over.
Posted by The-Lonely-Gamefreak 8 years ago Report
While I do agree that we need to tell Jates, it may be a good idea to inform Jates of the potential danger she's in. We did only tell her that Tassri was just someone we found while searching the mines.
Posted by Thagrahn 8 years ago Report
I think we need to sic Tassri on the prince of the Empire ASAP. Ignore the greedy drarf, and see if we can get the Aliance and Empire working together.
Posted by Razgriz 8 years ago Report
> Explain to the Elykae that you are not entirely surprised, since we've disagreed with Myla before and that wasn't a great experience for her. But you did quest to cure her. If she needs to go, then you don't want to leave on bad footing. Even if that means giving her as much support as you can for her to find her own cure. You're certain that splitting up a party of people who won't mesh might be for the good of retaining friendships.
> Tell Tassri attacking the Dwarf; while being just, would be illegal and highly suspicious. Not to mention likely incredibly dangerous. It's best to let it go and be thankful to have Tassri with them, not to mention resolving the elf-thing positively.
> Hope that Myla doesn't end up going off alone, though. Maybe if Jates won't go with her, ask Garret if he would be willing? He always liked Myla.
Seems like the party is destined to split and I can't side with Myla waifu anymore after this latest outburst. She's very abusive :/
Posted by LunaraMoth 8 years ago Report
We cant have Tassri leave the party D: despite what she did she seems quite pleasant, and also if we bail on her now it would likely make things much worse
Posted by JiklokEmisaryOfSteel 8 years ago Report
The possibility of madam Tassri seeking to eliminate us would increase I predict if she does go. Time will have to tell for now comrade.
Posted by RumiBelly 8 years ago Report
Tell Jates to tell Myla that we'll return for both of them. Take Tassri, with the rest of the group, to the empire. dump Tassri there. Go back for Myla and Jates.
Alternatively set up a rendezvous spot for after we ditched the spider
Posted by RumiBelly 8 years ago Report
Ditching Tassri here could give Marcus trouble.
Posted by abacad 8 years ago Report
totally 100% agree with myla. Why do we trust Tassri again? We should just dump Tassri and continue on our way, I don't think anyone in the party would really mind.
Posted by Sergit 8 years ago Report
I just came up with a new point that I want to throw onto the table:
If Tassri stays with the party, we will have Tahtsu coming after us for revenge sooner or later.
If we don't want to evenually make Tahtsu our enemi, we need to part ways with Tassri ASAP.
Posted by Sergit 8 years ago Report
*Enemy
Posted by YesImCanadian 8 years ago Report
I've been thinking about this as well. I didn't know how to bring it up though. This is one more reason traveling with Tassri is a bad idea.
Posted by YesImCanadian 8 years ago Report
So Myla messed up this time. Who hasn't? She's made how many bad calls compared to her good ones? A lot less.
She's more stubborn, yes. But she's always had good intentions. She's done what she can to keep not only herself but her party members safe as well.
The real person to blame is Floria. More specifically, us. We've ignored Myla's warnings before, and almost all the time, we've paid for it.
Everyone has their secrets, and she's no exception. For as much as we know, she's been forced from her home and made a slave till we came along.
Letting Tassri do what she wants with the dwarf isn't the best idea (going with this one for the dwarf). Tell her that and let her do her experiments on us. The problem I see with this would be Myla seeing Tassri doing stuff to us and freaking out.
Best idea I can think of would be to have Myla stay in her room for a while, while Tassri does whatever she does for the experiments. We can put a time limit on how long she experiments with us for. If she doesn't like those rules, then she can deal with Marcus and an angry Myla.
Posted by JiklokEmisaryOfSteel 8 years ago Report
This of course is assuming Lady Myla does not abandon the party. In fact I would go as far as to say she already left out of guilt for harming mylady.
Posted by YesImCanadian 8 years ago Report
Well then, let's hope she hasn't.
Posted by JiklokEmisaryOfSteel 8 years ago Report
Ai, we can't bandage a limb if it is missing.
Posted by Moxx 8 years ago Report
Bleh. Frustrating, because Leadership is Floria's best skill (along with Magic).
One word: Konic.
Second word: Jates.
When Floria refused to eat Jates when Myla asked:
Myla has absolutely no leg to stand on in terms of murdering someone with no regrets. If she wants to claim "justified" (which would be the case with Konic), Tassri can claim the same in defense of her home. And Myla is perfectly fine with sending Tassri after the dwarf, so there's that, too — either the dwarf dies, or Tassri dies, or both die.
And she keeps bringing up the "I told you so!" with Edris, when *she* was the one who first proposed we take Edris with us as a party member. We listened to her advice as far as trusting Edris, but once that trust is given, it's not something to be casually discarded, else *Floria* would be the one everyone would say you can't trust.
Myla has serious anger issues, and trust issues. Supposedly she was a kind girl, before Konic got ahold of her, but she's not that person anymore. Her demand that we eat and digest Jates was purely to test whether we'd trust her blindly when she ordered us to do something. That has colored every "trust" request from her, since then.
With Jates, she actually had evidence of Jates acting against us, and in the end it worked out much better for us to help Jates with her problems rather than kill her out of hand. Every other time Myla has brought up trust issues, it's merely been a gut feeling, and even then she's only had one time when she was definitively right.
Why can't we trust Myla's distrust of pretty much *everyone*? First, because of the "crying wolf" (pardon the pun) problem. If she points at every single person we meet and says, "We can't trust them!", then yeah, we can't trust her saying that. Her anger issues compound the problem, because it seems like her anger is tied to her lack of trust. She's gotten violent with Floria multiple times, which I find uncomfortable, and it pretty much all ties back to Floria not doing exactly what Myla wants her to do, all the time, no questions asked.
I'd thought that giving Myla back her full willpower would help strengthen her mentally, so that she wouldn't fall into this problem. Instead, it seems to have made it worse, reinforcing the sickness rather than fighting against it. Myla wants us to trust her, and there are times when we should; however she's made it so that we can never really trust her because she's made it obvious that she can't really trust *anybody*, which is diametrically opposed to Floria's view of trusting most people until given absolute reason not to.
Anyway, there's no way to discuss this until Floria and Myla can speak to each other without yelling. We need to figure out the real underlying problem with Myla's attitude, and that's going to take time, and non-screaming discussion.
At this point, I'm kind of inclined to let Tassri push Myla's willpower back down. As mentioned, her heightened willpower seems to be exacerbating her potion poisoning flaws (and psychological issues from her time with Konic), rather than helping them. This hair-trigger anger can't be healthy.
Posted by SiberMan 8 years ago Report
Is there any possibility to try reviving Nev? That might help Myla come around. Especially if we make Tassari help with it.
Posted by YesImCanadian 8 years ago Report
Rayen has already said, when someone dies, that's it. Bluebell was an exception because a third party granted us a "one time use" healing ability.
Posted by SiberMan 8 years ago Report
Oh, didn't know.
Posted by KingNothing 8 years ago Report
Make Myla a cake as an apology. Poison it. Eat her while she's unconscious. Laugh at her.
Posted by Zaracon 8 years ago Report
I have an idea what if you give myla a bet have everyone else but floria herself and tassari take myla to the empire in a separate group and her and tassari go together alone if tassari was to ever betray you it would be easiest for her at that point so if they're able to meet up at the empire with them that myla trust her more and notify myla that tassari has no idea for this and get to just notify tassari that she will be travelling alone with afterwards
Posted by Zaracon 8 years ago Report
its a risk but may be the only way to keep the party together
Posted by Zaracon 8 years ago Report
and this way tge only one at risk is floria herself
Posted by lordamaterasu03 8 years ago Report
I say we just let Tassri go her own way I rather not have Myla hate us forever even if she super stubborn I still kind of like her and she does have a good head in a way.
I think it's for the best. even if it's not the greatest idea I wouldn't mind we get the dwarf taken care of and Myla can cool her jets seeing spider lady leave.
Posted by davidargall 8 years ago Report
Take a break and check on the drow.
Back to Myla, and ask her what she wants to do.
We want to go to the Empire, which is where the spider is going.
The alternative is staying here and waiting for months for a natural recovery.