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Partnering up with an old friend of mine yellowrose to bring you some tasty angst in a world were humans are prey for everything that breathed.
The King of the Sun Elves and the Queen of the Humans have a conversation. It doesnt go well. No actual vore happens, but alot of talking and theres a woman being comfortably digested...so maybe there is a spoonfull.
Sorry for throwing plot into your vore lol.
Read the companion piece to the intro of the universe here: https://aryion.com/g4/view/797392
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Posted by Lavendercake877 2 years ago Report
huh this is intresting. could you please explain the predascpe further?
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
Predscapes are a concept someone coined on Furaffinity.net. its a pocket dimension inside the soul of a predator thar stores the souls of prey.
Posted by MasterGryph 2 years ago Report
From my experience, the concept seems to have evolved out of the writing of Throat_Wolf over here (Sadly deceased, unfortunately).
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
the concept i saw came from Flixard on FA.
Posted by Heimko 2 years ago Report
I can honestly kinda see where the queen is coming from, and at the moment i don't really blame her as it does kinda sound like she had the moral high ground above the elven king and his breeding stock.
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
Well of course we would sympathize with Cassandra. We're human just like her.
Posted by Heimko 2 years ago Report
I was also thinking from a morality and logical stand point. He wasn't really able to counter her arguments and mostly just repeated himself while she came with something new each time. Not to mention that it does very much sound like cattle/slave breeding + indoctrination what the mythics are doing (and "mythic supremecy", which is an entirely different can of worms we don't need to open up), and also the fact they don't even bother to ask first, but just rush in a tyrannise basically.
I may be overthinking this a little bit. Whoops.
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
Lol, I'm not gonna lie that I did lean alot on Cassandra's side. This is a good point though, and I'm going to have to make stronger pred arguments.
Posted by Heimko 2 years ago Report
Given the set up so far, that's gonna be difficult without it feeling force, come out of knowhere or create a plot hole. So, at the moment this franchise is leaning towards Casssandra being right and so on, and perhaps instead of trying to find a better pred argument, the elven kind will have to realise it's not the humans who needs to change, but the mythics. After all they're currently the ones in power and want the rest of those who aren't under their thumb under said power as well.
If i ramble to much, you can tell me.
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
i mean, the argument isn't supposed to be on the Mythics side. I guess it reflects my view of alot of stories with self righteous pred. but i want to show both sides even though im clearly for one side. But this is a baseline. If characters start at the bottom, theirs no were else to go but up.
Posted by Heimko 2 years ago Report
Okay. I do agree with how the story goes so far, and i hope the elf king can stop being said self-righteous pred and, as you say, go up + learn. As for showing both sides, i think you pretty much already have, and in a pretty solid manner too.
Posted by TheMysteriousSadSack 2 years ago Report
Pretty good set up so far. Gonna have to see just how deep the lore can get from here on out. I might have missed it, but are humans the only ones that get preyed on?
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
Primarily yes.
Posted by MasterGryph 2 years ago Report
I note that while the Elf King is trying to justify himself with "This is the way things are," He's avoiding deep thoughts of "How this came about".
And even though we see his thoughts, I don't think anyone he tries those arguments with would or should assume they're made in good faith. In other words, it's not just a matter of his arguments having weak logical backing, he also can't convince the other side that he actually has a real Ethos without more work than he's done.
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
I suppose that it shows that even someone like him is so used to the status quo. When you're addicted to what is already here there, you don't think about how it came about.
But again, i did write this more leaning toward Cass's side.
Posted by Ixtili 2 years ago Report
I see where the Queen is coming from, but I also don't think the Elf King necessarily is saying these patronising things out of malice. It's more that he just doesn't comprehend what it means to be human.
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
You can live a long time and still be vert ignorant of things.
Posted by Ixtili 2 years ago Report
You know if Elves are like this I bet Orcs don't believe in food slaves and go around challenging humans to fights and only eat the ones they respect like a walking Valhalla. They might even eat other Mythics species (to keep with the culture clash themes the Orcs see it as a sign of respect) which makes them look like lunatics to everyone else. IDK I just like the idea of Orcs randomly walking up to "free human" settlements beating their chest at the guards on duty and going: Come at me if you think your hard enough! There's probably the equivalent of DND barbarians hanging out in their territory and instead of a cowled population of food slaves their typical prey are a bunch of murderhobos. I like to think the Orcs also believe in a Valhalla style afterlife as do the Barbarians so they're basically competing for said afterlife very hard with one another.
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
Havent Really thought about Orcs in the setting yet. Its something YellowRose and I do need to talk about. Dunno if we'd go down that road tho.
Posted by Ixtili 2 years ago Report
I honestly just don't see Orcs being the kind to buy into the whole peaceful afterlife thing unless there's some kind of strength or glory narrative intertwined with it. Espeacially if Elves are out here doing the "come and walk into our mouths willingly" thing.
Orcs could totally do the scary giant man eater that doesn't comprehend humanity thing but the peaceful well intentioned extremist thing? Hell no! Warlike well intentioned extremist? Much more likely.
Course you don't have to listen to a word I say. But I've never known a single Orc in fiction who would respond to the accusation "you murdered my people" with anything other than "you're goddamn right and it was glorious! I hope you give me half as good of a fight!"
That's not to say there wouldn't be gentle or loving or condescending preds among Orcs. But if it's not framed in a context of glory, honour, fealty to ones tribe, spoils of war, a noble sacrifice of the weak to strengthen the strong or something like that I don't see how you'd make it a big part of the Orcish archetype.
Sure Orcs do own slaves in a lot of stories but they are slaves captured and thus "earned" not slaves grown. Agriculture even agriculture where the livestock are people isn't really a stereotypical Orc thing. They're basically the Ironborn from GoT in most stories.
Or that's just my impression of them. Orcs are the quintessential murderhobos of fantasy. Even the works where they are the sympathetic faction don't shirk from that warrior spirit. Growing people is beneath them.
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
Again, We haven't really thought about Orcs in our setting. Love the enthusiasm, but we're thinking about that idea on our terms.
Posted by Ixtili 2 years ago Report
Sorry if I come off as intense I'll take any excuse to talk about Orcs. Actually I'll take any excuse to talk about most fantasy races. But Orcs are perhaps one of the more fun ones. Elves are also fun and I think your version of Elves feels very Elf. You got some of the old fair folk hedonism and mixed it with the more Tolkien meddling and diplomatic good intentions then sprinkled on the Vore paternalism. Nice mix 10/10. Sorry if I come off as if I'm trying to take your terms from you. That's not my intention. I just like to rant. I don't mean anything more by it. Honestly I'm kinda envious that you have someone you can talk to about your ideas and that can share ideas with you. Sounds nice.
Posted by Vamp95 2 years ago Report
Can't wait to see other perspectives on this! Especially if the human race really isnt doing good and the Mythics are watching it's decline with anxiety and horror, not because they'd be losing a favorite food item but that they're watching a race be destroyed and there's nothing they can do to stop it. Well nothing short of an invasion but then they'll get the same resistance and anger that the giant in yellowrose's story.
Really loving all of this so far!
Posted by KeeperofLillies 2 years ago Report
Well, the Mythics are definitely the cause of the declining population, dont be confused. Humanity is trying is best to survive.
Glad you like it!