Posted by Firstfate 5 years ago Report

While I do appreciate the female prey, the reason being very true I'm afraid, this was interesting to see. I've seen many snake vore pics with very tight bulges to show off the person inside the snake, so this was actually very intriguing to see personally.

Even though I don't draw myself, I'll definitely have to keep this in mind for when I do start commissioning stuff, since I do have a lot of snake-like characters and plenty of shapeshifters in my bunch :)

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Thanks im really hard agains exagerated mark tight bulges, it looks pretty unreal and lazy i've committed that mistakes but on my oldes works, and besides im still learning that kind of bulges is a,noob's mistakes

Posted by Firstfate 5 years ago Report

Your welcome and I do hope you know I meant nothing bad towards your old works. Some people like "tight" bulges around the prey, regardless of what kind of creature is the predator, but that is there own personal preference.

I think that this should become something artists take into account when trying to figure out how they want to show bulges in their art and to take into account the fact that there is a very big difference between a "sock" and a "snake" xD

Posted by Opus4 5 years ago Report

It's really a battle between realism and preference really. The whole appeal of people being eaten by snakes is the constrictive-ness of their stomach. And when there's constriction involved, the appeal would be much more attractive when the tightness factor is increased.

The comparison to a "latex sleeping bag" is very true because it ties to why latex bondage is so appealing; people being bound from head to toe in a skin-tight rubber suit. It's also why vacuum beds or "vacbeds" are a thing.

I genuinely appreciate that you share this, but you should also consider why "sleeping bags as snakes" is a very common visualization of snake vore. Yes, that's definitely a realistic bulge. But if we're only gonna look at the outside, there's not a lot to look at but a bloated snake. It could just be a big dog in there for all I know. All we have to look forward to is the internal view to see the victim.

Calling it "lazy" is a fair point imo. At least 7 or 8 times out of 10, we are very likely unaware of the actual biology of snakes (but I speak for myself). But that's like saying unbirthing, anal vore or just plain oral vore is unrealistic because they don't follow the rules of human biology. And that's not even considering the even more bizarre styles of vore like hammerspace or stretchy bellies.

You bring up a good point. But in this case, people's preferences to how people like to see snake vore speak for themselves. Not a lot of people will be hunting for realism when they're enjoying their fetish. If your fetish is realistic vore, then that's a different topic altogether.

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Well about the big bulge is just question to have a bit of imagination, honestly see the prey shape through the snake's skin kills all the fun.
And about the latex bondage ,i think vore is not the fetish where they should be in
And about the vaginal and anal same size etc. I've seen some artist who manage to give a biological acurate (on a exagerated propotions oviously )sence even i been impresed how the did it so good . They don't stop on a simple intenal, they show where the rest of the organs place and how should be look the bulge from outside, is amazing. I wanted learn from their work and now i seek find the most realistic lógic as possible is.

Posted by Opus4 5 years ago Report

- I like to say that's preference again. If its clear that there's a human in the snake and we are to imagine WHO is in the snake, then it's fine. But if I can't make out what's in the snake, then I'm quick to look past it and not give it a second thought. People like it when the details are a bit more clearer and doesn't require too many brains. Yes, its very sad and shameful but it gets people's jimmies off a lot more frequent and the art (style) becomes more popular.

- The main focus is that people like victims being in tight spaces, hence the comparison to bondage. If there's plenty of room, the victim's struggle to escape is less apparent and not as attractive.

- That's great to seek or even create the most realistic kind of (same size) vore. But if I'm in your shoes, the one thing I will always bring up is that human skin shouldn't stretch so far, even if I wanted realism. Some artworks have the predator having lots of stretch marks and tbh, its not very attractive. The only way to to get away with this is if the predator is a giant, throwing same size out the window.

Posted by [Dinobonoid] 5 years ago Report

I don't really draw snake vore myself, but I do agree with you that exaggerated skin-tight bulges aren't nearly as good as smoother, more nuanced bulges.

Posted by Fischie 5 years ago Report

That is a handy little guide. I don't draw but it could come in handy for my writing. Describing what I can see is easier than doing so from my mind alone.
I get the gripe about always having to use female prey if its supposed to get views. From my perspective when a piece is mostly about vore I don't really care about male female furry human feral fish bird, whatever. Its about the act of predatory consumption. But I get that everyone has their own take on this.

Posted by BTS 5 years ago Report

I already wrote what I thought on DA but saw it posted here as well and it seems you are more active on here as well. Apologies if you find it annoying but I'll add a bit more here with some edits.

This is good reference that you made for people wanting to do realistic snake vore, or for those who want to take an "imaginative realism" approach with fictional creatures/beings with serpentine/elongated body structures.
Seeing what you replied to people here I can see you a an aversion to pictures like the ones depicted on the left and that's fine, those are your personal preferences. I have been following your works (which I do enjoy by the way) over the years and know you prefer a realistic approach and you pay careful attention to anatomy.

Some artists can/sometimes do or prefer making stylized/cartoony pictures over a realistic style. Often those that make pictures similar to your examples on the left often also have a fascination with encasement bondage, latex or form fitting clothing for example along with vore, and has in part to do also with how the human eye is naturally attracted to lines, curves, human-like forms and patterns.

It all really comes down to one's own preference and what they want to personally portray on the page or canvas and how they want to make it look like (or what one is paid to make if taking commissions).
Saying this "How snake vore must be done" is kind of foolish and I mean no offense. There are multiple ways of drawing a subject or theme along with artistic freedom and expression.

Posted by NoWayOut 5 years ago Report

Yup! You summed up my thoughts exactly. I prefer more exaggerated vore like the image on the left. More realistic stuff like on the right doesn't interest me very much and I tend to not look for it and don't tend to follow artist who do more realistic stuff. It's all just a preference thing, some people just prefer more exaggerated and over the top vore and others like more realistic stuff.

Maybe It's just me but I felt this whole post was a bit rude to be honest. Telling people that this is how snake vore should be done and telling others to stop being lazy and stop drawing sleeping bags pretending to be snakes was just really unnecessary, also saying he drew a female prey because he knew others wouldn't click on it like none of that was really necessary. Like people just prefer other things in vore it's not people being lazy or whatever. Like I said I prefer vore like the image on the left way more than stuff on the right, it's not because I lack an imagination or anything it's just because I prefer it. Reading through this and the comments kinda made me feel like I was being told that I should like the right image more because it's more realistic. People should like and draw vore however they like without being told that they are lazy for an unrealistic depiction.

Sorry for the mini rant but post like these just rub me the wrong way. We are already a pretty out there and small community that gets shunned enough on other websites. I always get annoying when I see it on this site too. I just feel really strongly about this is all.

Posted by BTS 5 years ago Report

Guess that means you won't like my pics though (lol).
I kind of like all styles personally when its drawn or rendered well. I enjoy the detail of realism and like the simplicity or the style of stylized or cartoony pieces.

I also agree with you on the female prey part now that I think about it. There are a lot of people prefer male prey, don't mind it or like both. It comes down to one's personal preferences. Its not right or wrong to prefer one over other. I have only seen it happens a few times but now there are even a few people have started saying female prey in vore peril is sexist.
I have been in the vore community for nearly 10 years (sort of, mostly shadowed artists liking them from a distance, only recently contributing to it) and the reason why female prey is more popular/preferred is that because most people that like vore are guys and when it comes to women who like vore are usually bi, leaning more toward other women, or are lesbian.
I don't mean to generalize but it just from all my own years and personal experiences with vore that this is trend I have seen with people that like vore. Even the few straight women I have seen who like vore prefer female prey. Often imagining it as themselves in the situation and see them selves as prey (sub) in the "3 Views of Vore" (Pred, Prey and 3rd party observer).

Again this is just the general trend I personally have seen over the years myself, and that also a lot of women in fetish communities often remain anonymous or adopt a male alias as not to attract unwanted attention.

Posted by NoWayOut 5 years ago Report

I actually looked through your gallery and you have a lot of really good stuff! It's not that I hate realistic stuff or anything it's just I tend to like more exaggerated and unrealistic things. But If it's drawn really well I'll like it honestly, realistic or not (seriously though your gallery is really cool)

Also dude 10 years in the vore community is really fricken cool! I didn't realize people have been in this community for that long. I've been apart of the community for about 3 years now (mostly lurking without an account though haha so I don't know if it counts)

Yeah all of your observations make a lot of sense, vore is definitely a more male dominated fetish and most of the women I've seen here have tended to be Bi or Lesbian. I've even been shocked to talk to some authors and artists who actually were women but just using a male alias.

Plus maybe it's just me but I've been seeing more and more male prey stuff appearing on this site, I've even seen some who do exclusively male prey. Which is a good thing cause then that means people who like male prey have more content to look foward too. You are absolutely right there is wrong with having a preferred prey, whether it just being female prey or just male prey, or even both, heck some people probably prefer neither and like robot prey or something or maybe they something else that I didn't mention haha. It is literally all just whatever the viewer prefers for sure.

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

I been into vore art bit more than 10 years and if im honest my oldest works was like the left pic, i was much more casual but im always looking for get better and better so my art has evolved thought the years instead stay on a comfort zone.
And one way tho get better is learn about anatomy and physics, and about i mention on used a Female, is i don't know how many of my works maded with all my effort has been ignored just because is male Prey, meanwhile other works i've done with much less quality and more lazy done have much more atention and reactions.
But i refuse do only Female Prey, i want be original and offer my public more variety.
And how you feel unnecessary my notes on the drawing is exaclty how i feel when someyone force an argument, on favor a spesific gender prey or forced nudity or forced physics.

Posted by NoWayOut 5 years ago Report

Dang that sucks that your Male prey stuff doesn't get more attention, I can't say I know anyone else with that problem cause there are a lot of people on this site that do male prey and seem to do pretty good. It think it's probably because as mentioned above vore is a mostly male dominated fetish so that is probably why but that's just a guess.

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

I don't hate that style, the point im try to express is snakes shouldn't be used on this kind of art, there is a lot of other predators that could do this work much better like worms or plants, take voralisious moga as a example ,he use aliens boneless creatures and there is totally fine and sense.
From my side thats is why i have múltiples predators to do each kind of vore style, i've created zolette to do that spesific rol of tight bulges. She use her special tounge to swallow persons on a tight grasp.

Posted by NoWayOut 5 years ago Report

I disagree with the notion that snakes shouldn't be used with this kind of art, I think people should draw their snake bulges anyway they like whether it be realistic bulges or really tight bulges, heck even voracious moga which you mentioned has drawn really spandex tight snake bulges and I think they look really incredible for a snake bulge

https://aryion.com/g4/view/546748

https://aryion.com/g4/view/555709

The snake bulges that Moga does are my favorite and my preferred ones. But like I said that is just what I like personally and what I personally think, I think super tight bulges have a place in snake vore

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Looks too fake to me i don't like it at all, i still thinking this style on snake is just go for the easy way. But on the first pic looks fine on the inferior side of the snake i mean there is not bones on that area but it screwed on the tail where the feets show up where is the spine? Pretty boring

Posted by NoWayOut 5 years ago Report

I think we just have to agree to disagree then. I love more exaggerated skin tight bulges and you don't. Everyone on this site has preferences on what they like and don't like in vore and that's fine, it just means there is more variety for people to find and enjoy

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Sorry man i don't know how don't sounds rude is not my intention at all i just notice just exactly after i submit the coment

Posted by NoWayOut 5 years ago Report

No man it's fine, I can tell you are not trying to be rude. We are just have a discussion is all :)

Posted by BTS 5 years ago Report

I do understand what you are saying and you are doing the noble thing of as someone with artistic talent seeking to improve. I'm still a noob with subpar skill and also just started digital drawing 3 years ago also wanting to improve.
I have to disagree with you on "snakes shouldn't be used for this art", that is kind of an elitist thing to say. Also by your logic should you also not argue that plants must not be used in the same way since there is isn't a plant that exists which can swallow something, not mention lignin (the polymers plants are made from) while it is flexible is not elastic.

There are the artistic rights to freedom of expression and creative freedom, not to mention the ability for the suspension of disbelief. There is realism, surrealism, cartoony designs and also other art styles to make a certain or unique look to depict the same thing, BUT in different ways. Art has no rules.

I know you are someone who appreciates and does put in detail and thought into your pieces. But people that do pictures in a similar style to your examples on the left are not inherently lazy or lack skill. Its all just an aesthetic style that is determined by the artist's own personal tastes or goals for the picture, and is up to the observer to interpret it for themselves.

Also when it comes to gender of prey it just comes to preference of the artist and that of the viewer. You have the right to do what you want to do. Yes there are people in the community that say obnoxious stuff that "only females can be preds", that "F/F is the only acceptable vore" or "male prey shouldn't exist" for example, and that should be called out. But their words and even the words of those who agree with you don't matter in end. It all comes down to what you want to create and you should not let other's opinions affect it and no one can stop you. Draw what you want to draw

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Yes thats the point i mean, when someyone say or do things like only females can be prey (same though about Male Prey but honestly i've never saw it happend) for example a,comic i saw there is a dialogue that said snake are debloping a taste only on Female Prey.
That dialogue was totally unnecessary.
Or another example i hate so much is when on a comic or drawing there is a guy and a girl, but only the girl is safety swallowed Soft and alive meanwhile the guy is just killed instead be eaten too.
Im not against Female prey i am a,bisexual but i hate they force the argument.
Thats more than a simple preference.
Soon i'll do a drawing doing exactly that thing but on the contrary way, forced argument, guy eaten Softly and the girl killed and throwed away.
To express my point. And i hope someyone could feel the same thing i feel when i see a drawing like that.

Posted by BTS 5 years ago Report

It is a matter "of simple preference". Very few force the narrative of just female prey or whatever else is better than the other as if its like a law. Hell, there are even people in the vore community that say creature/monster/animal predators is not real vore or is disgusting or that same size is an abomination. 
The majority of people I have seen are of the notion "like what you like. I'll like what I like and if we see something that either one of us don't like; the back button is there or just ignore it then move on". 
It just so happens that a large percentile of people happen to prefer female prey, because they are into/prefer women (because they are straight or bi guys, or are lesbian/bi women). In some cases there are women who like to imagine themselves in the situation and use the female character or OC in the picture as a sort of proxy.
I myself only prefer female prey, because that is what I like personally. I will never force a narritive of female prey is best or this method vore is better, because others have different preferences. I can also appreciate the skill, detail and time that goes into a well done picture or render even its male prey as the subject

Its like that with every other kink and fetish in the world. It comes down to preference of what you want to create and what you look for.
There are guys who like male prey, because they see themselves as prey (being a sub), or are gay or bi. I have also seen quite a few female artists who draw vore and prefer male prey seeing themselves as preds (dom). 
Male prey is also is also more popular in the furry vore community if you dare to venture there. (I know that I don't want to again personally). Go onto pixiv and you'll see a lot vore and ryona hentai artists do a lot with male subjects as well.
There also things like subreddits or chatrooms dedicated to themes and preferences.

In the end these are my conclusions.
1. Female prey is popular because a lot of people in the community are into/prefer females. There is no real narraritive on a big scale to have one over the another. Its just the the most common preference shared by many people in the community. 
2. Preferences for male or female as prey or preds or liking both is fine. 
3. If you make that picture you that say you want to you better careful how you depict it. Because some people might or can see it as misogyny in this day and age. But I won't and cannot stop you from making it also I won't say otherwise. As the for the examples you gave that is what the person wanted to see depicted as is it is their creative right to do so. Its their own little fanatsy or story based on their preferences.
4. You are your own individual with your own likes and preferences, just keep being yourself and create what you want to create. People with similar interests will eventually find you and same is vice versa. And when doing commisions you can have rules and boundaries, but let there be mutual respect and understanding between you, the artist, and the customer.

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Well i couldn't really be accused of misogyny because the entire Female Prey/peril comunity could be considered misogyny because take a hiper sexualized womans into a terrify situtation as a sexual context

Posted by BTS 5 years ago Report

Technically it is up to personal interpretation and is mostly seen (according to people like Twitter Puritans and "art police") as sexist as they say its objectivation. With some irony I haven't seen a lot vore, peril and bondage art called sexist. Seen it called mostly wrong, disgusting or amoral among other adjectives but never really sexist or misogynistic.
I have seen like only two or three people call female prey eaten by male preds in vore sexist because they saw it as objectification (as them being food).
I have however seen a lot stylistic pictures and fan art pictures of female characters from manga and comics, and especially now popular female characters (i.e Captain Marvel and Rei) be targeted like crazy in which they heavily berate the artist even sending death threats.


You on the other hand, by your own words, described you want to draw the picture of a woman being killed and her body tossed aside like garbage by the non caring predator while they treat the guy with tenderness and care. Yes he is still being eaten and his fate is grim, but he being still treated better than his female counterpart. Along with the message and cause saying you are tired/vexed of women getting preferential treatment in vore art. People may see that as not only as sexist but also misogynistic.

Sexism: the unfair and unequal treatment of person based by their sex
Misogyny: the dislike or hate for women

Granted I may be over thinking this since this is just vore peril, but its just a word of warning from me to you. I don't know if will or can happen, but just food for thought

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Then is ok when is the man the one killed meanwhile the female is soft swallowed alive?
But not when is on the contrary way?

Posted by BTS 5 years ago Report

I'm not saying that. I am only giving you a word of warning on how some people might perceive it in this present day, then maybe you get some form of cancel culture on your tail, and be prepared for it some way. You might not get hundreds after you, but a few could start reporting your pictures and maybe even getting your accounts suspended on whatever sites you post on. I have seen it happen to a few artists. A few people forming small groups to en masse report someone's creations to get their pictures removed, also maybe get their accounts suspended and even banned.

But create what you want to, you have artistic freedom and freedom of expression and all that. Nothing is stopping you just maybe be mindful how you phrase the theme specifically.
But like I said, maybe I am just overthinking it. That's I all can really say

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Oh ya, i see

Posted by FinniganFairyPants 5 years ago Report

Thank you for sharing this. I've seen plenty examples of "Okay, a snake has no business being that stretchy"

Posted by GassyBlossom31 5 years ago Report

I get. It's a style you don't like but see too much of on here and can get annoying. So much so you feel the need to address it. Also like the art and comparisons you show on how you think snake vore should be.

But "Snakes don't care about genders?" Of course they don't care about genders. Snakes eating women is a lot more popular in Vore. I get that you prefer vore with realism in it and with any prey, but not everyone does. Shoot, there some that prefer both styles. Everyone has their own tastes just like you.

You seem "pissed off"

Posted by FaideJour 5 years ago Report

Thanks for the tutorial.

Posted by NyaatoShiroi 5 years ago Report

Ohh, i am didnt knew that, its very helpful~
I am prefer both, unreal and real, lel~

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

Thank you very much :) At the beginning i used the first esxample for years, but while i keept learning i feelt uncomfortable with it, and i figured out i was wrong. So i've dediced to improve my style, and i see the first style much more easier cuz ingore all physics as possible is.
Personally i prefer put more effort and get as more realistic possible is.

Posted by NyaatoShiroi 5 years ago Report

Huhu~ I am not drawed snake vore yet, but i am did one with wormie~ I am noticed that too, about bulges~

Posted by von-de-rush 5 years ago Report

A,worm fit better on the first bulge, or something among both,worms have less muscles and,have no bones.

Posted by NyaatoShiroi 5 years ago Report

And theyre hungry.