Posted by HVL 4 years ago Report

Great story. Would love to see a sequel where 21 eats Bulma and maybe even some other female dbz characters

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

Oh trust me I've already got this planned as at least a four part series

Posted by Plume7 4 years ago Report

Tea, though. Toriyama just put a gift horse into the game. We already had some (albeit disturbing) tail vore with Cell, and then Buu with his candy transformation and absorption, but there’s no getting around it; Android 21 is just straight up vore mommy. There’s just no room for the benefit of the doubt. Toriyama has this lovely fetish, and so does 21. It’s incredible and I love it.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

I'm convinced he is a voreaphile or is in the closet (Gut?)about it. Either way works for me. I mean even from the first few chapters of the original dragon ball Bulma almost got eaten several times. The dragon world knows beautiful women belong in a stomach

Posted by Plume7 4 years ago Report

I think 21 is a love letter to us vorephiles. She loves tasty treats and can’t stop thinking about eating people, but she is still killing people and feels bad about that part. The dichotomy would probably cause problems, coz what if another threat like Frieza shows up? She loves her friends too much to force them to take a chance with her, and realistically, given the option, we’d all feel the same. We love thinking about it, but we still like these characters. That’s why I’m super glad 21 even exists. I feel like she’s some sort of vore rep or something.

Although, I can still think of a better way the 21 Arc could’ve ended. That ending kinda blew.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

yeah I'm inclined to agree, I have some problems with her (mainly plot hole related) but she was easily the stand out of the game in her own arc, though in the first two arcs she's just generic evil.
Good 21 was a great character and probably one of my favorite villains in a while due to her infighting nature. But her self sacrifice and subsequent tossing away so she can be reincarnated (something I find so strange in a series where heaven and hell exist)left a bad taste in my mouth so I felt it only right to give her a timeline where she got wished back instead.

Posted by Plume7 4 years ago Report

Yeah, Goku had no reason to reincarnate her, and no right since the other three androids were so close to her. It was the worst thing that could have happened for them.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

than again aside from 18 (and only recently 17) it seems to be a thing that the android get screwed over)16 is basically erased from existence since he "wasn't alive", 17 vanished from the universe without a mention until gt or super, 19 was little more than a foot note, 20 had a rather painful end, cell okay he got what he deserved but he's barely even mentioned after his death despite him making sense to bring back for the tournament of power, and now 21 gets reincarnated which seems like it basically erases her as a person for someone new.
At least she seems to be appearing in more games like dokon battle and even a DLC for Xenoverse. If they make Xenoverse 3 I really hope she appears. Maybe give her a few costumes too

Posted by Plume7 4 years ago Report

Android 8 would like to know your location.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

Sadly I never had the chance to watch dragon ball the whole way through so I don't know what happens to him. But as far as I'm aware he only gets a single cameo in super and is never mentioned into Z So I'd still say he still fits. If I'm wrong that's on me

Posted by Plume7 4 years ago Report

Oh, he dies. I don’t know the specifics, but 8 dies right in front of baby Goku.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

Yeah I thought he died, I guess he got better in trunks's timeline.

Posted by Allard-Liao 4 years ago Report

To my knowledge (never played the game or watched a let's play), she does get a not-insignificant cameo in Kakarot.

Posted by Allard-Liao 4 years ago Report

Well, Toriyama has remarked that, if she's popular enough, he'll find a way to bring her into the main canon.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

HELL YES! I would love to see her in the cannon. Though maybe actually explain some of the plot holes her existence creates

Also yes her human form does appear in a minor role/ cameo in Kakarot. I'm not sure if it's just a few scenes/levels or she's there for the rest of the game after being introduced (I've not seen or played the game either)

Posted by Plume7 4 years ago Report

I just hope they retcon the garbage ending while they’re at it.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

agreed

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

Let's just hope Toriyama or Toybal don't try to subvert her or our expectations of her or anything. If they did she might end up like jirin or just a redo of buu when he was evil.

Posted by delet0b269gv26 4 years ago Report

I feel like the best way to help 21 beyond just resurrecting people she eats, since Shenron cannot bring back those from the dead that he revived once already, is to give 21 herself the ability to reform those she eats regardless of how she ate them.

Maybe a side effect of this is 21 gaining the additional ability to eat people without digesting them altogether, passing them through her digestive tract unharmed.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

As far as I'm aware they got rid of the resurrections limit ages back so someone can die multiple times plus there's always 180 you dun F**ked up (aka namek and prunga)

Nope, I don't go touch scat or full tour, and as for reforming them it's fine for some stories but for DB I think it works better to just have them wished back

Posted by delet0b269gv26 4 years ago Report

Only the Namekian dragon balls have pretty much no restrictions at all on resurrection - they can resurrect any number of people any number of times do to Moori reworking them to add the ability to bring back multiple people at once so that their race would never again be threatened with extinction by a monster like Freeza since Porunga can grant the same wish any number of times whereas Shenron cannot grant the same wish twice, including bringing people that he's revived once already back from the dead a second time.

This, coupled with how much trouble it be to bring Porunga to Earth each time 21 eats someone, is why it would probably be better in-universe to just give 21 herself the power to resurrect those she eats.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

I do have a plan for the girls she eats but I was under the impression Shenron had been reworked in super so he could revive people more than once. Or maybe they just forgot, I mean I know back pre Z they had to still have the person's body in one piece and only have been dead for less than a year but that's gone now.
But it could just be me being wrong, it's been a long time since I watched z and I didn't watch super aside from the movies.

Though for porunga (I knew I got it wrong but I was way off) they don't have to bring him to earth, they just call them through shin or dende like in super.

Posted by delet0b269gv26 4 years ago Report

The thing to keep in mind is that Shenron's power is directly linked to capacities of whoever created it as are Porunga's, it's just the latter tends to have stronger creators than the former.

The main thing about Dende's remodeling is that Shenron is able to grant three wishes. However, since Dende is not powerful compared to Moori, Shenron can only fulfill two of the three wishes if a large number of people are revived using one of the wishes and all the other existing limits from Kami's version are still in place such as the resurrected person needing their body to be in one piece and only being able bring back those who have not been dead for more than a year when reviving multiple people at a time.

This in turn being why Shenron tells Sorbet that Frieza's body was cut into pieces and thus there would be no point when asked to resurrect the emperor.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

But we also see a few times like the dragon team in the namek saga, they revive on king kai's planet rather than on earth, so the body rule is more of just when the writers want it, it seems.

I am aware of the wish's being two or three depending on the wishes

Posted by delet0b269gv26 4 years ago Report

To be fair, that's more because Piccolo had been reunited with his body when he was restored to life, like Goku before the Saiyan fight and only spirits come back to the place where they died when resurrected.

Posted by nervousvampire 4 years ago Report

I'll have to look into shenron later, though as I said I have a plan for the girls that get eaten that shouldn't cause a problem with the lore or series. But that won't be until later.

Posted by delet0b269gv26 4 years ago Report

Okay, best of luck.

Posted by KOFreeman1 2 years ago Report

Awww that was nice of her