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Ok, so Alexandra needed a new tail. Here’s why:
Everyone knows the tail I had been using was a borrowed design from HitomiBoy’s Mae Adeline. I had been clear about that from the beginning. Before I even tested the waters with it, back when I first got the idea of using it, I brought it up to HB, who I was in communications with at the time, who then said he was flattered by it.
When I actually did test it in a sketch, it was to see fan reaction, my own opinion of it actually visualized, and to see if HB would have any sorts of problems with it. He didn’t seem to, the reactions were positive, so I went forward with it. I figured if he had any problem with it, he’d let me know.
Now, by now, the tail has been fairly ingrained in the character, I’ve used it for story stuff and to explain some of the biology of Angels, among other things. Even redid all the Alex RP icons to add it. Yesterday, HB sent me a new PM, asking me to stop using it. Apparently, it’s been making him uncomfortable for a while, and he kindly and politely asked me if I could remove it from Alexandra.
Really quick, I want to make sure this cannot be taken out of context to make it sound like HitomiBoy was doing something unreasonable or like I have any kind of ill will towards him over this. Though I discussed it with him, I never actually specifically asked if he was ok with it. I used his reactions judge the feel and felt, on my end, that he was ok with it since all I ever got was positivity from him over it. That’s my fault. And even if he did say “Yes, definately, go for it.”, people’s feelings change. I don’t blame him for this. Honestly, it goes against my own feelings to blatently use someone elses design for anything, unless it’s some kind of reference. In a way, it was, but it wasn’t subtle. I’ve always thought the tail design was a stroke of simple genius, and I still really love it. I thought of it as paying tribute to his design (Again, I have always made it clear it is HIS design, not mine), but in the end, it made him uncomfortable. I don’t know why, he doesn’t either, but I can certainly understand it.
So instead of removing the tail and back peddling a lot, I opted to design my own. It’s less interesting to look at, imo, and I still don’t like it as much, but it works for the same purposes as the Mae-like one from every angle.
So I hope everyone will like this new design. Also, Alex is going back to short hair since the reason for me making her hair long in the first place essentially doesn’t exist anymore.
Posted by Squidia 9 years ago Report
While the mini-wings are very visually interesting and distinct, I think the raptor-like feather-fan suits Alex. The fan would perform the same function as the mini-wings, as well as to hide the mouth.
If you're not happy with it, you might try giving the feathers a fork, like the tail of a swallow. It would still have a winglike shape, but be less derivative.
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Posted by Aesir 9 years ago Report
That was my second idea.
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Posted by Squidia 9 years ago Report
Also, I think I prefer the short hair. I feel like it flows better with the rest of her design.
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Posted by Aesir 9 years ago Report
It's how she was originally designed. I added the long hair to make her a bit different from another char of mine, but I don't use that char anymore.
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Posted by hunter1243 9 years ago Report
I'm with Greg, she looks more like a humanoid dragon or reptile now instead of a humanoid cat, witch didn't really suit her in the least. she always seemed more outgoing and predatory then a cat, unlike Mae who always plays around and thereby the tail suits her. no with her hunting style of 'eat whatever I damn well want to, she always seemed more reptilian to me. thereby, the tail suits her perfectly.
oh my GOD am I long winded today!
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Posted by HitomiBoy 9 years ago Report
Thanks for doing this Aesir. And being a class act about it. I feel much better seeing this, and I think seeing this, I can sort of begin to understand what it was that was bothering me to begin with.
As with the others, I agree this tail completely suits Alex way better IMO.
Cheers ^^
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Posted by Aesir 9 years ago Report
Cheers!
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Posted by Apostolos 9 years ago Report
Fits a bit more with her seemingly aggressive and other times self conscious nature the tail will react accordingly... In danger fangs will spread and chomp and when trying to hide something or nervous they could be sealed shut like a steel trap.... Sorry about lengthy analysis, Aesir
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Posted by TheWickedKing 9 years ago Report
What was the reason for making her hair long?
And Aria wants to pet that tail. So cute. uwu
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Posted by Aesir 9 years ago Report
I had another character I was using on an RP board that often got compared to Alexandra due to their similarities. They were both brutish, muscular girls with short, red hair, and has some angelic themes. It was unintentional, of course, but the similarities were there. In the end, Alexandra had her hair changed to be longer, while the other char got hers cut. But then I updated her outfit as well, and I'm only just now realizing the outfit even looks similar now. Either way, the character isn't really being used before (Tho I'm keeping her in my roster for potential future use in other things), so it's ok to change Alex's hair back to normal.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26053809/CeliaNewOutfitSketch.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26053809/celiapunchbannernologo.jpg
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Posted by Malyna 9 years ago Report
The real question is, is it safer to pet now?
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Posted by Journeyman 9 years ago Report
And can we see an illustration of Malyna's first attempt to find out? :P
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Posted by UnforsakenFantasy 9 years ago Report
Sucks you had to change it because of the sudden 'uncomfortable' reaction of using the tail for so long. Hell, seems like it was out of jealousy if anything. You used it better and he knew it, poor Oc. Regardless, this Is still cool, and I guess you can look at it in a refreshing light, he can't hug you now.
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Posted by Portent 9 years ago Report
Your work is always impressive. Very nice design.
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Posted by balanced-guy 9 years ago Report
As someone who has had to redesign characters in the past to help them stand out from the rest, I can understand how it feels when you get a design right. Not everybody will agree that your new design is great, but as long as you're happy with it, that's what counts. If you still aren't happy with this design, go ahead and redesign the tail again. You don't have to settle for a design you're unhappy with.
Also short haired Alexandria is a good look ^^
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Posted by Aickavon12 9 years ago Report
it looks more primal now which suits Alexandra, she's never really been elegant in my eyes XDalways appear to be... no offense, brutish and straight forward.
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Posted by Aesir 9 years ago Report
No offense taken, that's how she's supposed to come off. o vo
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Posted by Aickavon12 9 years ago Report
the only thing that comes off around her is her pants I've noticed.
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Posted by [Dinobonoid] 9 years ago Report
Oh thank goodness, her short hair will be much easier for me to draw.
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Posted by Ashley_Urikoshima 9 years ago Report
To be honest, I actually -like- this style more. It compliments the smaller wings a lot more since having a thicker tail with chunky wings would look a bit overwhelming on the design and, personally, baring Alex's personality in mind, this tail has more of a more 'primordial' feel in mind rather than the typical serene angel, which suits her a whole lot more.
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Posted by RavenXeo 9 years ago Report
Love the tail and all but that butt is too distracting @.@;
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Posted by ublover1 9 years ago Report
that tail <3
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Posted by BigMonkus 9 years ago Report
A Alex butt! :B
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Posted by Aesir 9 years ago Report
The Alexest of butts.
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Posted by BigMonkus 9 years ago Report
The Buttest of Alexes!
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Posted by RandomSpectator 5 years ago Report
I still think it would be nice for Alexandra’s Tail to have a radial mouth with six teeth that unfold when exposed or opened.
Also for her tail to be able to vanish completely whenever she feels like it.
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Posted by RandomSpectator 3 years ago Report
Now all we need is to pictures of her using it to eat someone, and possibly f**king someone with it (it could be anyone, but I would prefer for it to be one of her followers in both cases)
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