If all normally evil critters were as cartoonishly villainous as they are painted, a place like Sigil or Monstertown couldn't exist. There are lot of evil gnolls. Gnir isn't one of them.
Sometimes I get it, but then there's cases where it's like, "Are they really all evil?" Sometimes it's like, "How can they get along long enough to be seen as a threat?", if you get my drift. Pragmatic Villainy perhaps? I mean, Hobgoblins, or at least the more "Evil" ones, show certain amounts of that.
Of course, given how Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has affected things (and how players sometimes like playing as Monstrous Races, and even a few other books with minor revisions to the races were), practically every race can be of the Any Alignment section, with Evil High Elves and Good Drow Elves not being the exception to the norm.
Coincidentally, given how D&D type of stuff is something you like, look up "Villains by Necessity" by Eve Forward. It's a decent book about a party of "villains" that has to, funny enough, save the world from the Forces of Good - apparently, too much Good is just as bad as too much Evil.
I don't like the 5E (I think) thing that says gnolls are demonically influenced and are always irredeemably evil. They did that so you could kill them on sight and not feel bad about it. They have jumped through hoops to say that orcs are not all bad but did the opposite with gnolls.
Well, in that case, perhaps an Eberron Gnoll is the exception to the rule - #7 on Seven Things to Know states not to expect the expected - Beholders could be Good, and Gold Dragons could be Evil.
Of course, there's always Old Rule Zero - What the DM says, goes.
There are evil metallic dragons and neutral or good chromatic dragons in this setting. The red dragon who ate an evil Copper and then became mayor of a town is an example of both.
Yeah, which is kind of why I think that you might like this on D&D themed interactive I have going on - Dungeons and Monsters - which I've told you about a few times. There's even a path for 3.5 players to use.
The weird thing is how they insist orcs are not all bad now because somehow they are black coded, whatever that means, but objectively evil gnolls is A-OK.
Gnolls show up as prey in my work a lot because there are only so many furry anthro species to get eaten. They aren’t all bad though, and sometimes they get be preds, like the old Raid and Hero’s Reward pics.
There aren't that many gnoll pics here, just search for the species and look at the earliest pics. Now that I think about it The Raid I and II are stories. In the first one the gnolls are preds and in the second they are both pred and prey.
Posted by alockwood1 1 year ago Report
Well, nice to know that not all Gnoll are evil beings.
Posted by Strega 1 year ago Report
If all normally evil critters were as cartoonishly villainous as they are painted, a place like Sigil or Monstertown couldn't exist. There are lot of evil gnolls. Gnir isn't one of them.
Posted by alockwood1 1 year ago Report
It's like the Token Heroic Orc thing.
Sometimes I get it, but then there's cases where it's like, "Are they really all evil?" Sometimes it's like, "How can they get along long enough to be seen as a threat?", if you get my drift. Pragmatic Villainy perhaps? I mean, Hobgoblins, or at least the more "Evil" ones, show certain amounts of that.
Of course, given how Tasha's Cauldron of Everything has affected things (and how players sometimes like playing as Monstrous Races, and even a few other books with minor revisions to the races were), practically every race can be of the Any Alignment section, with Evil High Elves and Good Drow Elves not being the exception to the norm.
Coincidentally, given how D&D type of stuff is something you like, look up "Villains by Necessity" by Eve Forward. It's a decent book about a party of "villains" that has to, funny enough, save the world from the Forces of Good - apparently, too much Good is just as bad as too much Evil.
Posted by Strega 1 year ago Report
I don't like the 5E (I think) thing that says gnolls are demonically influenced and are always irredeemably evil. They did that so you could kill them on sight and not feel bad about it. They have jumped through hoops to say that orcs are not all bad but did the opposite with gnolls.
Posted by alockwood1 1 year ago Report
Well, in that case, perhaps an Eberron Gnoll is the exception to the rule - #7 on Seven Things to Know states not to expect the expected - Beholders could be Good, and Gold Dragons could be Evil.
Of course, there's always Old Rule Zero - What the DM says, goes.
Posted by Strega 1 year ago Report
There are evil metallic dragons and neutral or good chromatic dragons in this setting. The red dragon who ate an evil Copper and then became mayor of a town is an example of both.
Posted by alockwood1 1 year ago Report
Yeah, which is kind of why I think that you might like this on D&D themed interactive I have going on - Dungeons and Monsters - which I've told you about a few times. There's even a path for 3.5 players to use.
Posted by Homedragon 1 year ago Report
I think the evil/irredeemable gnoll thing started back in 3.5. The materials published in the MM Volume 4 pretty closely mirror the 5e MM.
The Races of the Wild version does a much better job imo
Posted by Strega 1 year ago Report
The weird thing is how they insist orcs are not all bad now because somehow they are black coded, whatever that means, but objectively evil gnolls is A-OK.
Posted by Homedragon 1 year ago Report
Yeah, not really sure what they're thinking over there.
Posted by Kila 1 year ago Report
Man, my own gnoll would do so well in this setting. Also glad to see one that doesn't end up on the interior side of things ending in a burp.
Posted by Strega 1 year ago Report
Gnolls show up as prey in my work a lot because there are only so many furry anthro species to get eaten. They aren’t all bad though, and sometimes they get be preds, like the old Raid and Hero’s Reward pics.
Posted by Kila 1 year ago Report
Very fair! And indeed not all bad. Will have to look up those pics
Posted by Strega 1 year ago Report
There aren't that many gnoll pics here, just search for the species and look at the earliest pics. Now that I think about it The Raid I and II are stories. In the first one the gnolls are preds and in the second they are both pred and prey.
Posted by Kila 1 year ago Report
Cool, more to read too! Also thanks for the search help