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Unfortunately we were unable to win this battle and my Patreon page was permanently deleted. I would like to say a huge thank you to everyone who supported us there, your support was essential for us to continue creating quality content.
However, I would like to ask those who like our content and want to continue seeing new ideas come to life, to support us on SubscribeStar or DeviantArt. Just because we lose Patreon doesn't mean we'll give up. I ask that you just be patient with the DeviantArt page, as we have a lot of content and we will have to post it there little by little.
We will have some changes in the near future, I hope I can count on your help and support. You don't know how important you are to us.
https://subscribestar.adult/paogordo
https://www.deviantart.com/paogordo
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Posted by WhatThe1 8 months ago Report
So if you do vore on patrion is has to always be consensual? Ok...? :/
Sorry that happened to you guys!
Posted by doomed 8 months ago Report
Wow that sucks
Posted by Jacquelope 8 months ago Report
That sucks bad. Deviantart has nixed some of my unbirth scenes for obscenity despite being consenting adults. Beware!
Posted by carlj 8 months ago Report
I would be sorry for you, but honestly, you kind of screwed the pooch here bud.
AI steals art and signature from other artists, that is a fact no matter how hard you try to twist it, AI can't create, only mash together what he "thinks" is what you want from the art it has been trained on (stolen art).
You basically posted AI generated "art" and sub sequentially get paid on Patreon, that's a big fucking no no for me and while I don't necessarily agree with Patreon, I'm on their side on this one.
I know that AI generated art can be attractive for those that lack art skills and you want to make use of it, no one can really stop you, but please don't post them on a site in which people are paying you money to see art, that's just wrong.
I still wish you get back on track with SubscribeStar, but don't post AI art on there too, because you will probably get kicked out from it too.
Posted by kattu 8 months ago Report
Were you subscribed to my Patreon? If you were, you would see that I tried my hand with AI and created a few images only. I never planned on making my page a full AI one. 99.9% of the content I posted (and was posting) is from artists that got paid and I would never change that. Now, pretending that AI art doesn't exist is simply stupid. So there should be a middle ground.
I know what you are saying about AI. I said the following once:
"I know that AI-created images are controversial and I don't think they will replace the work of artists. I always found them quite lifeless and would never use them as the main content on my channel.
However, I decided to experiment a little with SoulGen and tried to create more realistic representations of my characters. It's quite difficult to create images that I consider reasonable, and they still have some errors, especially in the hands of the characters."
So yeah, I'm not an AI defender by any means, so I just wanted to be treated with respect. No good will come out if we all decide to close our eyes and pretend AI doesn't exist. DeviantArt allows AI content and has an AI themselves to offer to people, so trying to push it back is no use.
Posted by carlj 8 months ago Report
You kind of brought a very bad example. Yes, Deviantart allows AI art, that's why it became a nest of people generating ugly AI art and making you pay to see them. I've seen some of them and they ask actual money to see them, it's disgusting.
Maybe this was a one time deal, or maybe you want to experiment more, it's up to you, but please don't ever post AI art on site in which people pay to support you.
People supported you because they want to see more Gabi and Emily and all of your other OCs, and honestly, same, but from the hands of wonderful artists, not souless "AIs", which are basically glorified search engines hyped up by greedy tech bros.
And no one is pretending AI doesn't exist, we are just acknowledging how shit it is and that some people use it in immoral ways.
I don't want to start drama with you, I said my piece and to me, Patreon responded accordingly.
I wish you the best with SubscribeStar though.
Posted by kattu 8 months ago Report
I'm just saying that, if you were supporting me, you would understand me. Nobody stopped supporting me on Patreon because I posted a couple of AI pics. There was two main comics drawn by artists being posted at the same time. So, if you were not aware of how my page was, you have no right to say "I screwed up".
Posted by carlj 8 months ago Report
But you did screwed up, you posted AI art on Patreon and they clearly say that they don't tolerate that.
You didn't get your page deleted because of vore, funnily enough, but because you decided to post AI art, in short, you screwed up.
It only takes one time to screwed up, this is not baseball, you don't get 3 strikes and then you are out.
Posted by macroflation 8 months ago Report
i genuinely Do Not Understand why patreon is deciding to die on the hill of "all nsfw art has to be consensual between the involved parties" when it's FICTION
Posted by z3d 8 months ago Report
If they didn’t go posting AI art on their patreon, they wouldn’t have been in trouble. As the email clearly states that stuff is against what they apply on the site
Posted by macroflation 8 months ago Report
the email also clearly talks about vore being not allowed, unless all involved FICTIONAL CHARACTERS are consenting in the images
it's not just a one-issue email, and my point is still relevant to everyone who gets hit with the P-shaped ban hammer because of it
Posted by Montoya2022Gamer 8 months ago Report
RIP BOZO
Posted by RasenGun37 8 months ago Report
Is this a hate comment? I can't tell
Posted by Montoya2022Gamer 8 months ago Report
Its a joke m8
Cant you take a joke?
Posted by RasenGun37 8 months ago Report
Wh ok, I wasn't sure
Posted by mibankai1171 8 months ago Report
Between Patreon and Gumroad I wonder how many people just never came back to those sites after they banned nsfw content
Posted by RasenGun37 8 months ago Report
Damn, fuck Patreon
Posted by TopShagger14 8 months ago Report
You should make a disstrack about them
Posted by bobbobson211 8 months ago Report
That sucks! I'm sorry to hear that Kattu.
Posted by chrismcnett 8 months ago Report
I hate how patreon is doing this to all vore creators.
Posted by Thecreepies229 8 months ago Report
Damn im so sorry that happened this has also happened to me only all my work is gone forever now deviantart band me forever because of my artwork and comments ao now i only have a few friends from deviantart to talk to still their good people too and they too got banned so i mighy feel your pain now that all thay work for patreon was for nothing now
Posted by throwawayusername420 8 months ago Report
I'm sorry, that sucks! The banks and payment processors are giving into pressure from a bunch of religious groups that want to ban all porn, and shit rolls downhill. The payment processors and banks are really cracking down lately, and they come down hard on sites and tell them to either ban anything remotely objectionable, or lose access to online payments. They'd rather just ban all fetish porn than get some bad press every now and again. It sucks, but it seems like the puritans are winning right now!
Posted by z3d 8 months ago Report
Ironically they came down on him for posting AI art. Like I’m in all honesty not in favor for someone getting money sent to them if they are putting such stuff as content that gets money. I feel bad for the artists they worked for, and I hope they see that later and realize the perks they are working for was using AI.
Posted by throwawayusername420 8 months ago Report
"Context that links to generative AI software" makes it sound like the issue was linking to an AI site or something, not just posing AI images. Although maybe Patreon worded it badly, IDK
Posted by kattu 8 months ago Report
They were after my page for the vore content. I got several bans that I worked around because they simply couldn't say I was wrong. AI content what was they finally used to ban my page, but don't be fooled, they don't care about artists. They are being pressured by credit card companies because of NSFW content and were using every excuse to get me.
Posted by ReyCaron 8 months ago Report
Hey man, I’m super sorry to hear that! Freakin sucks with most policy stuff on Patreon, but I’m surprised to hear it wasn’t restored for you. I see plenty of other Vore related creators that do AI stuff far more occasionally that implies little in the way of “consent” as they mention, and yet I’ve not seen nor heard those creators having any problems whatsoever. What’s even weirder though is I’m still able to access virtually all of the content you posted on Patreon through the mobile app. I’ll definitely be switching over to subscribestar once I’ve ensured that Patreon can confirm no payments will be made on my card for the suspended account.
Posted by DRroot4 8 months ago Report
then how to see the previous comics?there are sure a huge amount!
Posted by kattu 8 months ago Report
SubscribeStars.
Posted by ReyCaron 8 months ago Report
Shit just got even weirder. Your account still auto posted something new just an hour ago, despite the fact it’s been suspended. Can’t view the content anymore, but it’s still all there.
Posted by DRroot4 8 months ago Report
Will you fill in all the missing comics at once? Or are you posting one by one? I hope you can choose the first disicion
Posted by kattu 8 months ago Report
It's a lot of work to post everything at once. In SubscribeStars I already uploaded everything. In DeviantArt, it will take time.
Posted by blackrain 8 months ago Report
Sorry to hear that. Patreon can be real dicks. How can you get consent from fictional characters? Hope things work out for you going forward.
Posted by dragonboomer 8 months ago Report
Sorry, that happened to you guys.
Posted by MemeticVoreUser 8 months ago Report
That sucks. Also, why is it that vore isn’t allowed unless all parties are consensual when it’s FICTION!?
Posted by WankersCramp 8 months ago Report
This is why I use Subscribestar.
Posted by WankersCramp 8 months ago Report
Though I understand about the AI stuff.