Posted by doomed 2 years ago Report

lol so humans are basically cattle raised into submission

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Posted by wolfSnack 2 years ago Report

It depends on the country and culture!

In Europe, humans are mostly raised as pets, and live among pellis with pretty equal roles in society (apart from their different places in the food chain, of course). That's where most of the "official" Graduation stories are set.

In America, humans are mostly raised as livestock, and treated as such (albeit still respectfully). This little employee handbook is set in America, where humans are ranched ;)

I've written or co-written several "side stories" set in this somewhat more degrading American side of things, which are linked in the "Redmond Farms" tag.

If you want more info about how humans were domesticated and originally brought into this farming/ranching system, check out this document: https://aryion.com/g4/view/843934

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Posted by Tafillia 2 years ago Report

meep

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Posted by wolfSnack 2 years ago Report

meeps back?

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Posted by Tafillia 2 years ago Report

farm sounds like a fun place to live

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Posted by Crwn99 2 years ago Report

and now i feel compelled to do more napkin math
I farm produces 5000 humans per year, enough to support (5000 / 400) = 12.5 pellis.

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Posted by Crwn99 2 years ago Report

though i suppose that they don't focus on quantity

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Posted by wolfSnack 2 years ago Report

Hush, you XD

Yeah, we know the math is unsustainable. We've waved our hands and gone "Eh, fuck it, there's factory farms around too that pump out lots of humans, don't worry about it..."

Vore is not an efficient way to handle real population dynamics, but it's also super hot, so we continue to write it regardless XD

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Posted by Crwn99 2 years ago Report

can't deny that it's hot

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Posted by Dragon808tr 2 years ago Report

This honesty fixes several of the issues with Redmond Farms from that first story! It actually makes it sound like a nice place to live, albiet being watched over and knowing when harvest day is! Though it sounds strangely, really wholesome, despite its nature!

I loved the idea of the resturants putting humans on display or in a pool! Though you memtioned sometimes they are costumed, could you ellaborate on that? I think its a pretty fun idea!

The bit at the end with humans in rooms being watched by cameras in a livestream really piqued my intrest! Are they aware they are being streamed?

Overall, this was a really neat perspective on how these places work! Makes me wonder how many willing humans they admit!

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Posted by wolfSnack 2 years ago Report

I'm so glad you liked it! In order:

1) The farm depicted in the Merry-Upon-Avon stories was more of an experimental setup, to see IF humans tasted better when raised in an unaware circumstance. The answer was "kinda, but it's more trouble than it was worth, so this next generation we're going to try willing and aware humans".

2) I love the idea of edible humans "on display" as well :3 You can see a bit of this play out in this story, within the gourmet restaurant part! https://aryion.com/g4/view/743300

3) Yeah, they're aware they're on livestream -- a lot of humans actually enjoy showing off for the camera, either sexually or culinarily ;)

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Posted by okutrooper24 2 years ago Report

Your comment on the original story actually helped spur some discussion and brainstorming that lead to this and the post project report document we made, which lead to what Wolf said with MUA in that story being a staging community for more experimental ideas and I hope to continue building on this setting with Wolf and the others

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Posted by Redfield 2 years ago Report

I love this series and I can't wait to see more. Though It does make me question certain aspects like.

1.) Do the Adult humans sleep in bunks, or do they have their own rooms? Do the Children Sleep together or are they given rooms of their own.

2.) Are the humans Adult/Children allowed to wear clothes or in the case of adults, is it just in the winter where the weather is closed and the rest of the time their naked. Do they wear uniforms or are the clothes more varied?

3.) What do the humans eat and is there a difference between the adults diet and the children's diet.

4.) What kind of education do the humans get on the farm.

5.) Suppose an unwilling Human is found are they 're-educated, just eaten outright or put into other rolls to serve the farm.

6.) Are these a lot of questions to ask. If so I apologies this is just an interesting world to me. ^^

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Posted by wolfSnack 2 years ago Report

Thank you! I'm very glad you enjoy all of this worldbuilding -- you can find similar themes/settings in the "Redmond Farms" tag, and other works within the same overall universe within the "Graduation" tag! There's already three full-length stories set on this farm, and another story in progress.

In answer to your specific questions:

1) Humans usually sleep in bunks, though some gourmet-quality farms sometimes offer small rooms to each human for privacy (when space allows). Children usually stay with their mothers for the first few years, before being moved to nearby rooms with their peer-group. However, they're raised on a day-to-day basis by anthro nannies and teachers rather than humans -- it's a delicate art, to give human children healthy emotional upbringing while also ensuring that they psychologically imprint on anthro caretakers for obedience purposes, but Redmond Farms is an expert in this field.

2) Children wear clothes on these farms. There's still a nudity taboo for both young humans and young pellis. But upon reaching adulthood, humans (like pellis) are generally naked on the farms (to facilitate easier grading and observation of livestock quality, and allow more convenient taste tests), unless the weather is cold or hot enough to require cover. Generally, the focus of human clothing is to protect the meat for sale, while keeping humans happy and comfortable -- you wouldn't want to eat a steak if it was all tough and wrinkled from being left out in the sun! But if clothing isn't required for human health, safety, or comfort, it's generally avoided.

3) Humans are generally fed a vegetarian diet, with some milk and eggs collected from (large) feral livestock -- many of whom will happily eat humans if given the opportunity. Humans can eat meat from feral animals, but it's rare: why waste meat feeding the meat, after all? The only major difference between the diets of adults and children are 1) that human babies are often breastfed both by their mother and pelli caretakers, and 2) adult humans often supplement their diet with pelli cum and femcum (which is made from humans like them, via CV or UB), which has major health benefits.

4) Humans can't be eaten before they turn 18 (again, the pelli-verse does NOT allow any sexual or vorish acts with underage characters), so there's plenty of time for them to be taught. Their educations usually don't focus on history, but they are often taught reading, writing, and math: the smartest humans are often instead trained and shipped out as service animals for pellis, or to fulfill jobs in pelli society such as retail or office jobs before they're eaten. Intelligence doesn't factor into their grade as a food item, but CAN change when in their life they're eaten. Note that outside America, European humans often have a full university education due to different (and more equal) societal roles for humans.

5) Unwillingness was bred out of the human population long ago, during the initial domestication process (see this document: https://aryion.com/g4/view/843934). With that being said, some humans are still somewhat hesitant, or want to be eaten by a specific predator (or species) they've fallen in love with. There is definitely a certain amount of re-education that occurs to ensure every human livestock is as willing as possible, but no predator would eat a human who's emphatically insisting they refuse to be eaten -- such humans, though rare, would usually fulfill other roles on the farm (such as long-term breeding roles, if their genetics are desirable to the farmer). Every human will be eaten eventually, no exceptions, but sometimes a little extra time is needed for a human to acclimatize to their role.

6) I love questions, feel free to keep them coming! Glad you enjoy the world ;)

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Posted by Redfield 2 years ago Report

I have some more and I'm Sure I'll probably have more in the future.

1. How Much Freedom Do humans young and Old have on the farm?

2. What is the difference, in conditions on a Factory Farm?

3. What does the average Human Sell for based on Grading?

4. In the course of their education, do the children stay on the farm or are they taken out on field trips at all?

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Posted by wolfSnack 2 years ago Report

1) Human livestock on the ranch all have a decent amount of day-to-day freedom, as long as they make sure to complete their chores (which may include feeding feral animals, helping fertilize the crop fields, fill out sale paperwork when their friends are purchased, and other such busywork). Exercise and healthy eating are encouraged during their free time: the best human meals are well-toned and nutritious, after all!

2) Factory farms are something I haven't written extensively about, so I'm still figuring that out. It would be much more mechanical and impersonal, though, with an emphasis on quantity over quality. Most factory-farmed humans would spend their lives hooked up to machines that feed them and care for them and electrically stimulate their muscles, with VR systems to keep their minds busy while their bodies mature. They might never meet a pelli until they're on a dinner plate!

3) I'd say that a low-grade human would sell for about 3 hours' worth of wages at a decent pelli job? Most predators have to eat approximately one human per day minimum, so there's a lot of government subsidies to ensure food is plentiful for lower-wealth pellis. A very high-grade human might cost hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars, for a wealthy predator to enjoy~

4) It depends on the farm, somewhat, but they're occasionally taken on carefully supervised field trips to areas that help inform them on their purpose in life -- or occasionally to meet young pellis their same age, to get them used to the idea that humans and pellis exist in symbiosis.

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Posted by MarkusFreeman320 2 years ago Report

I just want to echo WolfSnack's sentiment and say how happy I am to see such interest in our universe :D

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Posted by msmyriam 2 years ago Report

I found this story because I wanted to tag something with "capitalism" and just had to see what the "capitalism is a sin" tag was about! Looks interesting, can't wait to read later today :P

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Posted by wolfSnack 2 years ago Report

Would love to hear your thoughts! It's worldbuilding material for a setting I frequently write in. You can see more by searching the tag "Redmond Farms".

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Posted by msmyriam 2 years ago Report

Well, furry/anthro stuff isn't my main thing, but I am a sucker for a nice dystopian vore world, especially when it plays with the tropes and style of industrial capitalism. And on that level it delivered!

My biggest critique would be that I'd love to see some of these bits of exposition as full stories rather than just paragraphs on a blog post or a memo. It would be really fun to see a story from the POV of a "human of the day" who gets chosen for dinner, or a hungry courier who helps themselves to the meal they're delivering through VoreDash. These stories could of course be written later, and I'm sure you have some planned, but there's something about discovering them in the writing that's very fun.

That said, I really love how this format can be used to hint at the world beyond what's written. Mrs. Koval's trophy case in the blog-style story about social changes, for example, really stands out. Without having to go into detail about the "rival business leaders, former lovers, exemplary employees" it simply shows the audience that they all end up eaten, and we're free to imagine any of those scenes in the context of where their remains ended up. It's also a good reminder that humans can be business leaders or lovers at all. I had forgotten that possibility until the story brought it up, which only reinforced the brutality of their shared end.

Hope those thoughts were helpful! I'm sure I'll be checking out more of your work soon :P

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Posted by wolfSnack 2 years ago Report

Thanks for the comment! I'm very glad you liked the dystopian elements here ;)

Did you have a chance to search the Redmond Farms tag? There's three novel-length multi-part stories set on the Redmond Farms ranch, if you want to check those out! And there's another one upcoming soon.

These worldbuilding documents were a side-project I did for fun, to expand on the setting we saw in those other three pre-existing stories.

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