Man.. she is harsh. But she always has been. Interesting how far she goes, I did like the story (relatable underdog can't get a break, nice vore sequence, strangely the extended pleading added to the scene simply because usually artists don't do much with that moment) but I do have trouble understanding the point of the comic... just when Sophie seems to strike a relationship with the kid she turns on him and turns into a pure predator, and there seems to be no reason for the entire exchange except that she's a dragon and eats people -- the kid gets no redemption for being a wimp/undesirable, and Sophie doesn't really seem to care much about him beyond his caloric value... though since we already know what's going to happen, maybe the real twist was getting us to think it wasn't...
I really liked the background, the comic has a very open feeling to it. Wonderful work as always.
I can't speak for the artist, but when I had the same thoughts it occurred to me that this being "for a friend" could have meant that part of this friend's personal tastes is to be dominated or singled out and mistreated. Sophie is well suited to being a merciless predator but we've all got our own personal fantasies and getting dejected or bullied isn't much of a stretch: especially here.
Let me reply by saying 'Sophie is a dragon and she eats people.'
...Well, a dragon GIRL, to be precise.
To her dragon side, the boy was a weak link who got separated from his herd; the ideal prey for an opportunistic predator. I suppose it's possible that she struck up the conversation to satisfy her human side's need for companionship but in the end she succumbed to her carnivorous instincts.
Or maybe she is a sadist who wished to lure the child into a false sense of security before devouring him.
I like that, it's almost like she simply acts human out of necessity. Since she stalks sentient prey, she has to be able to talk to them, and take advantage of their emotions. But inside (well, outside too) she is still just a carnivorous dragon who only views people as food. In comics like this we get to see whether acting human and living in a human world actually gives her some humanity.. but apparently not, she remains a 'stranger you shouldn't talk to.'
Very enkjoyable. I really enjoy the way you give your character Sophie a nice balance between moments of meanness or cruelty and show how she can at times be sweet as well. IT's a nice tension.
I feel the need to post a second comment: I do not like the way this turned out. These particular sequences were disturbing - and we're in a vore community. I love your work, but in my opinion, you went too far.
That's pretty strong isn't it? It's one thing to say you don't like a piece, it's another to second guess the artist or tell them they erred. I found the comic disturbing as well, but you know what, this is the reality of vore and in a weird way the same things that disturb me also add to the impact of the vore. After all, part of the thrill of vore is the disturbing nature of being eaten in the first place. If anything Shyguy ought to be commended for not flinching in this sort of portrayal of a real predator.
Reality of vore? There is no reality of vore. I agree with both of you on some points this was both disturbing and wrong but vore is also the thrill of being eaten I do not however agree that this is to be always "expected" and that the artist should be "commended" for drawing such a disturbing scene. Do I hate the artwork itself? No the artist is talented but I don't think it should be wasted on such a depressing and macbre scene like this one :(
Some people have different tastes than you. This is fiction. If everything had a happy ending, we wouldn't have H.P. Lovecraft or other great authors.
Am I comparing this to great literature? No. But the point is that it's -okay- to enjoy stuff like this, as long as it doesn't harm anyone. And no, making people feel sad isn't actual harm. As a commenter above said, "Moving on, ignoring this." You don't have to let something that bugs you ruin your day.
True. Am I saying that everything has to be lovey dovey and safe and happy? Of course not. But I'm within myself to express my feelings on this. This artist put her/his work on here willingly and so it is open to comments whether good or bad. Whether a person is harmed or not, I still feel that glorying a child getting killed horribly by an overly selfish and wicked predator isn't fun or good or enjoyable at all, and I'm entitled to my opinion whether you agree to it or not. True and I agree with that commentator, but doesn't mean I can't leave a detailed comment on my feelings before I leave.
Yeah. You do have a right to express your opinion, and I have the right to express mine. I wouldn't have said anything if you didn't push it on nearly every commenter whom you disagreed with. My beef was with comments like this: "I do not however agree that...the artist should be 'commended' for drawing such a disturbing scene" and "That's not a very good way to look at it :("
Speaking like that is inflammatory, and you've got to be willing to accept the consequences for being inflammatory. If expressing your opinion is worth those consequences? Great. You've stood up for your beliefs. Keep on fighting as long as it's worth it. But, again, be willing to take the backlash that's sure to come from people who disagree with you. It's only fair. :)
True it is only fair and I fully understand that such comments that pose my constructive disagreement, might be opposed. So yes I know that there is a possibility. And I'm not pushing my beliefs and am certainly not commenting on every single person I disagree with. But thank you for your opinion, like you said, you are entitled to yours.
Have to disagree with you, there is of course a 'reality' upon which vore is based on. Animals eat each other... often the young... even if we make changes sometimes for the sake of the fetish it is still based on a very 'real' reality.
I can't speak for you or anyone else but for myself, since the fetish is derived from this 'reality,' more realistic depictions appeal to me more, and it's that 'reality' that I think _should_ be appreciated, regardless of how it makes you feel. By making sophie act like a predator, it gives her an authenticity as a 'realistic' predator and also is a nice link to the 'reality' of vore.
True, but there are many examples in the real world where things/animals/young are eaten or there is vore present where the predator is acting out of maternity or safety. Such examples include many species of fish and sometimes alligators that eat or keep their young inside themselves to protect, but they are still a predator by nature. I agree with you on the 'reality' being there but I disagree with sophie acting like a predator. This situation is different. She's just not a predator, she's a sadist, in some ways a devil. A predator eats and hunts to survive and to perform it's roles in nature. Sophie has neither role. She is not starving nor does she have a role in the lives of humans, but she still eats them, what does that make her? Not a predator, but a virus, a very sadistic and painfully taken virus. So yes I agree there is a reality of vore but I disagree that it gives Sophie any authenticity as a pretend predator.
Is that correct though? I thought Sophie always ate people (because like ShyGuy says 'she is a dragon that eats people'), so it's an inescapable part of her nature that she preys on sentient beings. That is what creates the issue of how she can fit in, if she must feed herself with living intelligent prey. Is she actually evil, or is the kid naive of the realities of nature? Sophie would starve if she stopped eating people and die, or eat people and continue to live. But that is the conundrum for all predators, and even for people; we may distance ourselves from the harm we create but the truth is we are just as cruel in our own eating habits, and on a much larger scale, so it is a conundrum that even applies to people. Sophie just embodies it in a much more direct way.
I believe that it is correct. True she is a dragon and needs to eat, but no where did it say that she had to kill innocent people to just sate her hunger. There are plenty of alternative food sources then preying on the sentient ones. True the kid is naive, but he is a kid D:, a young child who hasn't learned yet, and she just murdered him pretty much in 'cold' blood. If she only likes people well that's her problem and she can go starve to death. True we are predators, but we have the decency to kill our meats before we eat them, most of the time, in a merciful way (I should know, my grandparents lived near a farm). I don't think she's embodying anything, just embodying her bodies selfish and wicked wants, and not her natural and tender needs.
I find it difficult to discriminate between what is and what is not okay in terms of macabre fetish. I fully understand what vore is, however I am expressing my opinion that it is never - I repeat never okay to derive sexual pleasure from the painful death of a minor.
Opinions aren't "wrong". You cant just say someone is wrong because they dont share your tastes. So, hes disturbex by the death of a fictional child. I am to.. Its the artists choice to draw it, I cant stop him. But I can choose to not like something, just like the poster you were replying to can.
Well, technically that would fall under my point of opinions not being 'wrong'. I personally dont feel like its my place to judge the artist or tell people what thy can and can't do, but if someone felt that its wrong to do something, then I'm not going tp bother trying to persuade them. They have their opinion, I have mine.
Let me put it this way: If you draw a minor on this website - a porn website - you risk the FBI shutting down our little spiel-ground and getting all of us on a child porn watch.
That looked like it was about in character. Anyway, kids should really not talk to strangers. ESPECIALLY IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE GET SWALLOWED WHOLE. o_o
I actually didn't see this coming and for some reason found it even more erotic than if she would have eaten the bullies... Def have mixed feelings on this, but regardless I enjoyed the ride and like to see more twists like these!
I'm going to say I actually liked this. A lot of people seem upset that Sophie, despite being a likeable character, basically was worse than the bullies. This is post-modern in the sense that it's not what we expected. Life is rarely fair. Sometimes when you open yourself up to people that seem like someone you can trust, they rip your heart out and fucking swallow it whole. Life can be fucking cruel, sometimes you don't get a happy ending.
Vore is fatal over 50% of the time. Some people like imagining themselves as the helpless prey, some do not. If you feel disturbed by this, maybe you should reconsider this fetish (essentially a death detish)as a whole, considering it is one where people take joy in people essentially dying via digestion. As someone said above, this isn't much more different than a lioness picking off a young antelope. She didn't molest the kid or anything, she just took advantage of an unfortunate situation. If you want to be offended that a kid got eaten, fine, but then maybe you should question your morals when you enjoy an adult dying in the next image.
I personaly really enjoyed this comic, tho it might be unpopular because of the use of children. People are naturaly protective of children, it has been proven to be an instinct that is program into our very genes. While I can perfectly understand people feeling uneasy about it, like everything else it is but an armless fantasy. Personaly I enjoy child as prey, perhaps because I can imagine a younger me in this role.
Gotta say, I like this ending better.
Perhaps I'll be hated for this, but I have little sympathy for bully victims. Everyone goes through it at some point in their lives and they must learn to stand up for themselves.
Those who rely on the strong will only find temporary solace from their own weakness.
So many opinions, why not chime in with mine I guess.
I didn't *hate* this, but it did make me hate the character. As long as that's a good side effect of this and it's what the person drawing it is going for, it's all good.
And no, it's not the same as seeing an adult dying or whatever in some of the art here. If you can't understand the fundamental difference between an innocent person dying at the beginning of their life after being shat on and then taken advantage of over grabbing some guy off the street or something, there's nothing to really argue about with the person anyway. :P
There's a reason why this touched a nerve with some people, but that was probably the intent, so it's fine. I now know how to treat the character, which is somewhat different than before, and that's not a bad thing. In other words, kudos for drawing this. :)
Mmmm, such a lucky, and poor child.. Not only not getting picked for the team, but ending up as nothing but a bit of Sophie food... But even so, he was quite lucky! Getting to learn about her loving digestive system first hand. And all the more so, for exactly how she plans to ensure he is reborn back into the world in a day or so! Such a very lucky little guy, even if he was so horrified... Can only wonder how many other little guys she's eaten, and how she feels about eating such cute little kids for her meals?
Soooo much contrivery over this peace. Personally I like this comic allot. Also soo many people saying Sophie is evil. Sadist maybe, but I certainly dont think her malevolent. Shes just a carnivorousness dragon girl that looks at who/what ever is lover on the food chain as food when ever and where she wants. Shes simply a predator.
I liked it. When i guessed how it was going to finish (sophie who punishes the bullies) i was going to change page. Yes, i got a little tired of the same, overused, "good" ending.
But fortunately, this was, finally, a changing of the usual course of actions. Besides, the "alternate story" made up with the hard ending and in a way i liked very much! Not useless revenge on the bullies, but helping the kid to become aware of his skill. This is deep, man ;)
I think the problem a number of people have with this end is that they just can't find it in themselves to find it *funny*. Which actually is a problem because usually Sophie is pretty clearly a "cartoon" predator played for laughs...and arguably needs to stay that way to work, too.
I mean, what would we have if we stripped away the humorous elements? A decidedly unfunny series of comic strips about an unrepentant, lazy karma Houdini serial killer who gets away with her crimes not even because she's at least smart about committing them (it's not like she exactly bothers to cover her tracks or get even the flimsiest alibi, after all) but simply because she lives in a crapsack world where everybody else is either too terminally clueless to catch on or if they do know can't be arsed to *care*, that's what.
Rather depressing if one thinks about it that way, no? *That's* why Sophie & Co.'s (mis)adventures need to stay in the realm of comedy; if we can't laugh about them, we might as well cry, and I'm reasonably sure that *that* would get old pretty fast for most readers.
The way I look at it is like this: Sophie lives in a world different from ours, a world that can't be held to the same standards of our own. Hers is a world that exists for the sole purpose of catering to the fantasies of vore fetishists.
Like you say, in reality there would be consequences and repercussions to Sophie's actions and more than likely she would pay a price for those actions. But the fact of the matter is that such consequences are not a part of the fantasy. (Now, if the predator's punishment WERE a part of it, then that would be a whole 'nother story, but it's not. At least not for me.)
I would even go as far as to say that in this fantasy world, Sophie is not a criminal, or a serial killer, or even a murderer. She is merely fulfilling her role as the predator, consuming the prey. There is no one looking to put her to 'justice' and it's not because they're lazy or careless, but because they simply are not there.
I think that if you understand this and stop trying to compare the fantasy to reality, it wouldn't be so disturbing.
"Stop trying to compare the fantasy to reality" -- okay, that should be an interesting exercise. Given that reality can't really help but be the *basis* for every single piece of fiction that exists, how would one even meaningfully go about that? I'm honestly curious here...
And yeah, I suppose I could always take the "meh, it's just a bunch of pixels on my computer monitor, nothing worth getting worked up about" position with regard to the comic easily enough. So why don't I? Because the other side of that argument is "well, then I shouldn't really *care* about these characters, what happens to them, and the work their creator has put into these strips, either", and that's not something I'm quite ready to do yet. If it wasn't for that, the fact that I find a world set up the way you describe quite literally unbelievable (at least if asked to actually take it seriously -- as said before, it kind of works *as a joke*) wouldn't bother me in the slightest because then that obviously wouldn't matter either.
And then I wouldn't have bothered to comment in the first place. ;)
Haha, you're right. It is kind of an unrealistic request isn't it?
My point was that there's little 'substance' behind Sophie's world right now. Most of my strips have been either commissions or requests and offer hardly more than fetishist wank material. (Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion. Just sayin')
Of course, I've always wanted to give Sophie a more substantial world, grounded in reality, but I never can seem to make the time. If I finally do, however, I can promise you it would be very different from the empty world you see now. Hopefully a world you can really care about.
Apologies for not stating it earlier, but I definitely appreciate your taking the time to comment with your thoughts on the matter, as I appreciate everyone who comments on my works.
I hope you will continue to enjoy my works despite how unbelievable they may be.
I have great respect for ShyGuy and this comic in general. I have great respect for all that he/she (sorry, no clue) has done and greatly appreciate the disconnect that he/she (sorry for the awkwardness) makes in this kind of thing.
Vore is meant to exist in a world of our creation that lives by its own laws, where the only standards are those we set for ourselves and occasionally ours requesters or partners. To some, a more coddled and kind world of vore where all can coexist is fine. For others, much like this comic illustrates, it can be as animalistic as it would be would the furry or scaly characters lack their more human qualities. Sophie, to me, is one of the perfect embodiments of the survival of the fittest, where some are not meant to last in the world when cornered with a hungry and powerful predator. Some may view this as cruel, but to the creators and others like me, this is the world that artists like ShyGuy has created. You don't have to live in it, it is nothing more than fantasy. It may not appeal to you, but I for one enjoy and appreciate it. ^w^
Even though this is years old, this is still one of my personal favorites to read from time to time. The uncaring nature Sophie has when eating Collin was amazing and shows just how much she treats others as food than people. Does make me wonder if you will ever make this again, or might one day make a comic which is an aftermath to this by having work-off and later disposing of what remains to show just how little value he had to her other than free food to snatch
Yeah I definetely think the ability to elicit such emotion is indicative of the effectiveness of a piece of art. That being said I still wish I hadnt seen it, i think this piece specifically has rewired my whole brain so that all vore is just sad to me now lol. No idea how that works.
I actually love this ending alot more than the alternative one, and I like to believe *THIS* is the canon ending.
Sorry if I sound evil here, but I absolutely love when vore preds are absolutely unapologetic and have absolutely 0 morals. Even when it comes to voring kids.
The only thing I think would've made this ending better is if we REALLY saw just how little of a shit Sophie gave about the kid, and just took a shit right on his shoes and socks.
Posted by shrunkenone 12 years ago Report
So much for the assumption she intended to eat the bullies. :P
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Posted by Ichasechubbies 12 years ago Report
Shame she's not in the mood for 2nds, those bullies have it coming.
Still, extremely well done as usual :)
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
Thanks, man. Glad you dig!
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Posted by Reiko 12 years ago Report
Ooo thats a surprising and awesome series xP Gotta love Sophie~!
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Posted by Humbug 12 years ago Report
Oh, only in the vore world can we root for such a horrible person and not feel bad about it.
Go Sophie! <3
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
Some of us still feel horrible about it
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Posted by Humbug 12 years ago Report
I said "can," not "do." :P
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
lol okay
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
That is one way to look at it, lol. Thanks!
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
That's just...wrong :(
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Posted by Dest 12 years ago Report
I agree, kids should be left out of this... also it was the victim
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
Yeah I know I'm sad now :(
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Posted by deathknight 12 years ago Report
well here's my question did she eat a child or eat the bully or eat both?
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Posted by deathknight 12 years ago Report
correction I feel bad for the kid...
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Posted by geofrey 12 years ago Report
Damn it, now I feel sorry for the kid ^_^
Well done! Enjoyed it, nice to see it didn't go the whole, "Oh eat the bullies, justify it." very evil and nasty, just the way vore should be
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Posted by Scratch 12 years ago Report
Man.. she is harsh. But she always has been. Interesting how far she goes, I did like the story (relatable underdog can't get a break, nice vore sequence, strangely the extended pleading added to the scene simply because usually artists don't do much with that moment) but I do have trouble understanding the point of the comic... just when Sophie seems to strike a relationship with the kid she turns on him and turns into a pure predator, and there seems to be no reason for the entire exchange except that she's a dragon and eats people -- the kid gets no redemption for being a wimp/undesirable, and Sophie doesn't really seem to care much about him beyond his caloric value... though since we already know what's going to happen, maybe the real twist was getting us to think it wasn't...
I really liked the background, the comic has a very open feeling to it. Wonderful work as always.
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Posted by Ichasechubbies 12 years ago Report
I can't speak for the artist, but when I had the same thoughts it occurred to me that this being "for a friend" could have meant that part of this friend's personal tastes is to be dominated or singled out and mistreated. Sophie is well suited to being a merciless predator but we've all got our own personal fantasies and getting dejected or bullied isn't much of a stretch: especially here.
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Posted by SV21 12 years ago Report
I agree. I feel like a sequence like this needs more *fleshing* out. It just seems like it happened too fast.
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
Thank you for your comment.
Let me reply by saying 'Sophie is a dragon and she eats people.'
...Well, a dragon GIRL, to be precise.
To her dragon side, the boy was a weak link who got separated from his herd; the ideal prey for an opportunistic predator. I suppose it's possible that she struck up the conversation to satisfy her human side's need for companionship but in the end she succumbed to her carnivorous instincts.
Or maybe she is a sadist who wished to lure the child into a false sense of security before devouring him.
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Posted by Scratch 12 years ago Report
I like that, it's almost like she simply acts human out of necessity. Since she stalks sentient prey, she has to be able to talk to them, and take advantage of their emotions. But inside (well, outside too) she is still just a carnivorous dragon who only views people as food. In comics like this we get to see whether acting human and living in a human world actually gives her some humanity.. but apparently not, she remains a 'stranger you shouldn't talk to.'
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Posted by kidclef 12 years ago Report
Man, now I don't feel so bad about my own childhood. Nice work as always!
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Posted by Baz 12 years ago Report
I can't say I like this angle of Sophie (I prefer to think of her sticking to adults) but... eh, whatever you wanna draw
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Posted by vmoartet 12 years ago Report
Awww... I didn't expect that swerve ending. Was hoping she'd go after the bullies. Still, great work, as always!
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Posted by tailsjordan 12 years ago Report
I feel bad for the child.. that was not what i was expecting.
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Posted by Fischie 12 years ago Report
Nice comic, it highlits some sinister parts of live but it is very entertaining
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Posted by DarkArtist 12 years ago Report
Well..that was a rather depressing end.
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Posted by Cougar 12 years ago Report
Heh, never trust Sophie. <3
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
<3
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Posted by vorelover07 12 years ago Report
What a twist! A darker story, love it.
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Posted by NecrolanceZX 12 years ago Report
I feel bad for the kid, but on the bright side, he won't get bullied anymore! On the other hand, he was never seen again...
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
I don't think there is a bright side D:
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Posted by Cougar 12 years ago Report
Very nice series. I guess your friend is no fan of disposal, because I halfway expected it in this comic. X3
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Posted by GenesisTerra 12 years ago Report
Well, that's.... depressing.
Yeah, moving on, ignoring this. Not a big fan of mean spirited stuff like this.
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
Yeah this really saddened me :( I feel the same way
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Posted by Navaras 12 years ago Report
Well That was a little saddening, but we can't all be kind and compasionate, can we? Well done as always, Shyguy!
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Posted by Eurodex 12 years ago Report
Well at least he doesn't have to worry about being bullied anymore. Either way, great comic. ^_^
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
That's not a very good way to look at it :(
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Posted by JQVore 12 years ago Report
I enjoyed it! Always nice to see a twist in these kinds of stories, even if it is a darker one. good work as always!
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Posted by steven1950 12 years ago Report
must say im a bit sad probly becuase i rember being the kid always picked on*has hurt my nuckles many times becuase of it*but i find it hot and sad
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Posted by Indighost 12 years ago Report
Very enkjoyable. I really enjoy the way you give your character Sophie a nice balance between moments of meanness or cruelty and show how she can at times be sweet as well. IT's a nice tension.
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
Thanks!
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Posted by htfcuddles 12 years ago Report
Awesome one, well done.
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
: )
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Posted by jojoznt 12 years ago Report
That's probably the saddest thing I've seen in a long time. I'm actually depressed now...
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Posted by deletedaccount505 12 years ago Report
Somehow, cruel preds are much more of a turn-on than nice ones. Well done.
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Posted by Sora 12 years ago Report
Love it! Great work Shyguy! Eating the bullies would have been too predictable. I agree with Cosmic and Geofrey.
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Posted by SV21 12 years ago Report
I feel the need to post a second comment: I do not like the way this turned out. These particular sequences were disturbing - and we're in a vore community. I love your work, but in my opinion, you went too far.
Sorry man.
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Posted by Scratch 12 years ago Report
That's pretty strong isn't it? It's one thing to say you don't like a piece, it's another to second guess the artist or tell them they erred. I found the comic disturbing as well, but you know what, this is the reality of vore and in a weird way the same things that disturb me also add to the impact of the vore. After all, part of the thrill of vore is the disturbing nature of being eaten in the first place. If anything Shyguy ought to be commended for not flinching in this sort of portrayal of a real predator.
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
Reality of vore? There is no reality of vore. I agree with both of you on some points this was both disturbing and wrong but vore is also the thrill of being eaten I do not however agree that this is to be always "expected" and that the artist should be "commended" for drawing such a disturbing scene. Do I hate the artwork itself? No the artist is talented but I don't think it should be wasted on such a depressing and macbre scene like this one :(
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Posted by Humbug 12 years ago Report
Some people have different tastes than you. This is fiction. If everything had a happy ending, we wouldn't have H.P. Lovecraft or other great authors.
Am I comparing this to great literature? No. But the point is that it's -okay- to enjoy stuff like this, as long as it doesn't harm anyone. And no, making people feel sad isn't actual harm. As a commenter above said, "Moving on, ignoring this." You don't have to let something that bugs you ruin your day.
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
True. Am I saying that everything has to be lovey dovey and safe and happy? Of course not. But I'm within myself to express my feelings on this. This artist put her/his work on here willingly and so it is open to comments whether good or bad. Whether a person is harmed or not, I still feel that glorying a child getting killed horribly by an overly selfish and wicked predator isn't fun or good or enjoyable at all, and I'm entitled to my opinion whether you agree to it or not. True and I agree with that commentator, but doesn't mean I can't leave a detailed comment on my feelings before I leave.
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
Thank you for the comments.
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
You're welcome, I have nothing against you, nor am I trying to insult. I just wanted to give my feelings on it. I like your sketch style.
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Posted by Humbug 12 years ago Report
Yeah. You do have a right to express your opinion, and I have the right to express mine. I wouldn't have said anything if you didn't push it on nearly every commenter whom you disagreed with. My beef was with comments like this: "I do not however agree that...the artist should be 'commended' for drawing such a disturbing scene" and "That's not a very good way to look at it :("
Speaking like that is inflammatory, and you've got to be willing to accept the consequences for being inflammatory. If expressing your opinion is worth those consequences? Great. You've stood up for your beliefs. Keep on fighting as long as it's worth it. But, again, be willing to take the backlash that's sure to come from people who disagree with you. It's only fair. :)
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
True it is only fair and I fully understand that such comments that pose my constructive disagreement, might be opposed. So yes I know that there is a possibility. And I'm not pushing my beliefs and am certainly not commenting on every single person I disagree with. But thank you for your opinion, like you said, you are entitled to yours.
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Posted by Humbug 12 years ago Report
'Long as you understand that, we're cool. :)
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
Yep I understand :) but thanks for asking ^_^.
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Posted by Sunkissedlover 9 years ago Report
I thought it had a "happy" ending.
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Posted by Scratch 12 years ago Report
Have to disagree with you, there is of course a 'reality' upon which vore is based on. Animals eat each other... often the young... even if we make changes sometimes for the sake of the fetish it is still based on a very 'real' reality.
I can't speak for you or anyone else but for myself, since the fetish is derived from this 'reality,' more realistic depictions appeal to me more, and it's that 'reality' that I think _should_ be appreciated, regardless of how it makes you feel. By making sophie act like a predator, it gives her an authenticity as a 'realistic' predator and also is a nice link to the 'reality' of vore.
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
True, but there are many examples in the real world where things/animals/young are eaten or there is vore present where the predator is acting out of maternity or safety. Such examples include many species of fish and sometimes alligators that eat or keep their young inside themselves to protect, but they are still a predator by nature. I agree with you on the 'reality' being there but I disagree with sophie acting like a predator. This situation is different. She's just not a predator, she's a sadist, in some ways a devil. A predator eats and hunts to survive and to perform it's roles in nature. Sophie has neither role. She is not starving nor does she have a role in the lives of humans, but she still eats them, what does that make her? Not a predator, but a virus, a very sadistic and painfully taken virus. So yes I agree there is a reality of vore but I disagree that it gives Sophie any authenticity as a pretend predator.
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Posted by Scratch 12 years ago Report
Is that correct though? I thought Sophie always ate people (because like ShyGuy says 'she is a dragon that eats people'), so it's an inescapable part of her nature that she preys on sentient beings. That is what creates the issue of how she can fit in, if she must feed herself with living intelligent prey. Is she actually evil, or is the kid naive of the realities of nature? Sophie would starve if she stopped eating people and die, or eat people and continue to live. But that is the conundrum for all predators, and even for people; we may distance ourselves from the harm we create but the truth is we are just as cruel in our own eating habits, and on a much larger scale, so it is a conundrum that even applies to people. Sophie just embodies it in a much more direct way.
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
I believe that it is correct. True she is a dragon and needs to eat, but no where did it say that she had to kill innocent people to just sate her hunger. There are plenty of alternative food sources then preying on the sentient ones. True the kid is naive, but he is a kid D:, a young child who hasn't learned yet, and she just murdered him pretty much in 'cold' blood. If she only likes people well that's her problem and she can go starve to death. True we are predators, but we have the decency to kill our meats before we eat them, most of the time, in a merciful way (I should know, my grandparents lived near a farm). I don't think she's embodying anything, just embodying her bodies selfish and wicked wants, and not her natural and tender needs.
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Posted by SV21 12 years ago Report
I find it difficult to discriminate between what is and what is not okay in terms of macabre fetish. I fully understand what vore is, however I am expressing my opinion that it is never - I repeat never okay to derive sexual pleasure from the painful death of a minor.
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Posted by Ruler101 12 years ago Report
Opinions aren't "wrong". You cant just say someone is wrong because they dont share your tastes. So, hes disturbex by the death of a fictional child. I am to.. Its the artists choice to draw it, I cant stop him. But I can choose to not like something, just like the poster you were replying to can.
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Posted by Ruler101 12 years ago Report
Well, technically that would fall under my point of opinions not being 'wrong'. I personally dont feel like its my place to judge the artist or tell people what thy can and can't do, but if someone felt that its wrong to do something, then I'm not going tp bother trying to persuade them. They have their opinion, I have mine.
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Posted by SV21 12 years ago Report
Let me put it this way: If you draw a minor on this website - a porn website - you risk the FBI shutting down our little spiel-ground and getting all of us on a child porn watch.
You fucking idiot.
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Posted by SV21 12 years ago Report
The black knight ALWAYS WINS!!!
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
And I respect that opinion. Thank you.
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Posted by NotherPacman 12 years ago Report
That looked like it was about in character. Anyway, kids should really not talk to strangers. ESPECIALLY IN A WORLD WHERE PEOPLE GET SWALLOWED WHOLE. o_o
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Posted by Sempai13 12 years ago Report
I actually didn't see this coming and for some reason found it even more erotic than if she would have eaten the bullies... Def have mixed feelings on this, but regardless I enjoyed the ride and like to see more twists like these!
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Posted by CGR-7 12 years ago Report
Wow – very interesting, Shyguy. =D
That’s definitely a side of Sophie that doesn’t get much light.
You certainly gave use the 180° for an ending. =)
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Posted by 0Anesthetic4u 12 years ago Report
Does your friend hate children.
This brings back memories. I got seriously lost 3 times at the state fair when I was little(Why did my parrents keep takeing me?).
Man... The shit that could have happened to me.
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
I know it's a bit disgusting isn't it? But as for the drawing itself I like the sketch style ^_^
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Posted by 0Anesthetic4u 12 years ago Report
A bit on the creepy and depressing side yes.
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Posted by delet0h2b69 12 years ago Report
Yeah :(
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Posted by Rac0r 12 years ago Report
Sophie is so evil.. And that's why I love her so much!
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Posted by kreftwark 12 years ago Report
I'm going to say I actually liked this. A lot of people seem upset that Sophie, despite being a likeable character, basically was worse than the bullies. This is post-modern in the sense that it's not what we expected. Life is rarely fair. Sometimes when you open yourself up to people that seem like someone you can trust, they rip your heart out and fucking swallow it whole. Life can be fucking cruel, sometimes you don't get a happy ending.
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
I agree.
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Posted by campingcam 12 years ago Report
Judging by all these comments, I find it interesting that you were able to make something controversial...on a VORE site.
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Posted by Evoc 12 years ago Report
What a lot of crybabies that found their way to the comments here, lets hope they too run into Sophie.
Love the comic, the story and the sweet predatory callousness, well done!
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Posted by Ulquiorra 12 years ago Report
Oh if only more comics were interesting like this.
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Posted by Slash 12 years ago Report
A man-eating dragon dangerous? Wooord?
But seriously, Great comic. I get a Grimm fairytale feel from this. :3
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Posted by cownugget 12 years ago Report
Wow, so many crybabies.
Vore is fatal over 50% of the time. Some people like imagining themselves as the helpless prey, some do not. If you feel disturbed by this, maybe you should reconsider this fetish (essentially a death detish)as a whole, considering it is one where people take joy in people essentially dying via digestion. As someone said above, this isn't much more different than a lioness picking off a young antelope. She didn't molest the kid or anything, she just took advantage of an unfortunate situation. If you want to be offended that a kid got eaten, fine, but then maybe you should question your morals when you enjoy an adult dying in the next image.
Cool work as always, Shyguy
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Posted by kernac 12 years ago Report
I personaly really enjoyed this comic, tho it might be unpopular because of the use of children. People are naturaly protective of children, it has been proven to be an instinct that is program into our very genes. While I can perfectly understand people feeling uneasy about it, like everything else it is but an armless fantasy. Personaly I enjoy child as prey, perhaps because I can imagine a younger me in this role.
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Posted by Marco 12 years ago Report
That's basically why I'm cool with child-prey as well. I usually just imagine myself as the prey.
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Posted by Levy 12 years ago Report
Aw, up until page six I hoped she was going to teach him how to eat people. Oh well. Still quite enjoyable.
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Posted by Rucknir 12 years ago Report
Gotta say, I like this ending better.
Perhaps I'll be hated for this, but I have little sympathy for bully victims. Everyone goes through it at some point in their lives and they must learn to stand up for themselves.
Those who rely on the strong will only find temporary solace from their own weakness.
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Posted by Mr_Iddi 12 years ago Report
Hah!
Very well done, my tiny little hat goes off for you.
Always nice to see things going the natural way instead of going by the 'good guy' twist.
Keep up the good stuff. ^^
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Posted by Negator 12 years ago Report
So many opinions, why not chime in with mine I guess.
I didn't *hate* this, but it did make me hate the character. As long as that's a good side effect of this and it's what the person drawing it is going for, it's all good.
And no, it's not the same as seeing an adult dying or whatever in some of the art here. If you can't understand the fundamental difference between an innocent person dying at the beginning of their life after being shat on and then taken advantage of over grabbing some guy off the street or something, there's nothing to really argue about with the person anyway. :P
There's a reason why this touched a nerve with some people, but that was probably the intent, so it's fine. I now know how to treat the character, which is somewhat different than before, and that's not a bad thing. In other words, kudos for drawing this. :)
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Posted by atak 12 years ago Report
Mmmm, such a lucky, and poor child.. Not only not getting picked for the team, but ending up as nothing but a bit of Sophie food... But even so, he was quite lucky! Getting to learn about her loving digestive system first hand. And all the more so, for exactly how she plans to ensure he is reborn back into the world in a day or so! Such a very lucky little guy, even if he was so horrified... Can only wonder how many other little guys she's eaten, and how she feels about eating such cute little kids for her meals?
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Posted by papuusa 12 years ago Report
Soooo much contrivery over this peace. Personally I like this comic allot. Also soo many people saying Sophie is evil. Sadist maybe, but I certainly dont think her malevolent. Shes just a carnivorousness dragon girl that looks at who/what ever is lover on the food chain as food when ever and where she wants. Shes simply a predator.
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Posted by papuusa 12 years ago Report
yuck for typos.... piece* carnivorous* lower* waaay to cold in my house at the moment hands frozen. Lol
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Posted by Very 12 years ago Report
Whoa nelly, I know vore involving children is controversial in the vore community but this really takes the cake.
Anyway, I enjoyed the comic! Excellent work as always.
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Posted by Bartaugh 12 years ago Report
This is just awful. Truly disgusting and terrible. Utterly deplorable.
*adds to favorites*
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Posted by soki 12 years ago Report
XDXDXD
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Posted by Wolfsage 12 years ago Report
I really think you should make continuations of that Comic, where the Kids Mom is looking for him or something like that, would be awesome!
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
I'll leave that up to your imagination.
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Posted by ButtPlug 12 years ago Report
wow.
did not like that.
no boners achieved at all.
just, no.
no.
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Posted by soki 12 years ago Report
I liked it. When i guessed how it was going to finish (sophie who punishes the bullies) i was going to change page. Yes, i got a little tired of the same, overused, "good" ending.
But fortunately, this was, finally, a changing of the usual course of actions. Besides, the "alternate story" made up with the hard ending and in a way i liked very much! Not useless revenge on the bullies, but helping the kid to become aware of his skill. This is deep, man ;)
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Posted by Mark 12 years ago Report
I think the problem a number of people have with this end is that they just can't find it in themselves to find it *funny*. Which actually is a problem because usually Sophie is pretty clearly a "cartoon" predator played for laughs...and arguably needs to stay that way to work, too.
I mean, what would we have if we stripped away the humorous elements? A decidedly unfunny series of comic strips about an unrepentant, lazy karma Houdini serial killer who gets away with her crimes not even because she's at least smart about committing them (it's not like she exactly bothers to cover her tracks or get even the flimsiest alibi, after all) but simply because she lives in a crapsack world where everybody else is either too terminally clueless to catch on or if they do know can't be arsed to *care*, that's what.
Rather depressing if one thinks about it that way, no? *That's* why Sophie & Co.'s (mis)adventures need to stay in the realm of comedy; if we can't laugh about them, we might as well cry, and I'm reasonably sure that *that* would get old pretty fast for most readers.
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
The way I look at it is like this: Sophie lives in a world different from ours, a world that can't be held to the same standards of our own. Hers is a world that exists for the sole purpose of catering to the fantasies of vore fetishists.
Like you say, in reality there would be consequences and repercussions to Sophie's actions and more than likely she would pay a price for those actions. But the fact of the matter is that such consequences are not a part of the fantasy. (Now, if the predator's punishment WERE a part of it, then that would be a whole 'nother story, but it's not. At least not for me.)
I would even go as far as to say that in this fantasy world, Sophie is not a criminal, or a serial killer, or even a murderer. She is merely fulfilling her role as the predator, consuming the prey. There is no one looking to put her to 'justice' and it's not because they're lazy or careless, but because they simply are not there.
I think that if you understand this and stop trying to compare the fantasy to reality, it wouldn't be so disturbing.
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Posted by Mark 12 years ago Report
"Stop trying to compare the fantasy to reality" -- okay, that should be an interesting exercise. Given that reality can't really help but be the *basis* for every single piece of fiction that exists, how would one even meaningfully go about that? I'm honestly curious here...
And yeah, I suppose I could always take the "meh, it's just a bunch of pixels on my computer monitor, nothing worth getting worked up about" position with regard to the comic easily enough. So why don't I? Because the other side of that argument is "well, then I shouldn't really *care* about these characters, what happens to them, and the work their creator has put into these strips, either", and that's not something I'm quite ready to do yet. If it wasn't for that, the fact that I find a world set up the way you describe quite literally unbelievable (at least if asked to actually take it seriously -- as said before, it kind of works *as a joke*) wouldn't bother me in the slightest because then that obviously wouldn't matter either.
And then I wouldn't have bothered to comment in the first place. ;)
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
Haha, you're right. It is kind of an unrealistic request isn't it?
My point was that there's little 'substance' behind Sophie's world right now. Most of my strips have been either commissions or requests and offer hardly more than fetishist wank material. (Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion. Just sayin')
Of course, I've always wanted to give Sophie a more substantial world, grounded in reality, but I never can seem to make the time. If I finally do, however, I can promise you it would be very different from the empty world you see now. Hopefully a world you can really care about.
Apologies for not stating it earlier, but I definitely appreciate your taking the time to comment with your thoughts on the matter, as I appreciate everyone who comments on my works.
I hope you will continue to enjoy my works despite how unbelievable they may be.
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Posted by AnonContrib 12 years ago Report
... That was awful even for this website's standards. Absolute depravity even from a vore frame-of-reference.
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Posted by soki 12 years ago Report
Why the hell are you here then?
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Posted by SerBunnicus 12 years ago Report
I have great respect for ShyGuy and this comic in general. I have great respect for all that he/she (sorry, no clue) has done and greatly appreciate the disconnect that he/she (sorry for the awkwardness) makes in this kind of thing.
Vore is meant to exist in a world of our creation that lives by its own laws, where the only standards are those we set for ourselves and occasionally ours requesters or partners. To some, a more coddled and kind world of vore where all can coexist is fine. For others, much like this comic illustrates, it can be as animalistic as it would be would the furry or scaly characters lack their more human qualities. Sophie, to me, is one of the perfect embodiments of the survival of the fittest, where some are not meant to last in the world when cornered with a hungry and powerful predator. Some may view this as cruel, but to the creators and others like me, this is the world that artists like ShyGuy has created. You don't have to live in it, it is nothing more than fantasy. It may not appeal to you, but I for one enjoy and appreciate it. ^w^
I just don't wanna be next on the menu. o3o
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
Thank you very much for the generous comment!
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Posted by SerBunnicus 12 years ago Report
No problem at all, sir/madam! ^w^ (dammit!)
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Posted by sadisticflirt 12 years ago Report
Truly, in the end the pack caught up with her and gutted her. Recovering the child safe and sound. Chew bones for all!
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Posted by IHaveAVoreFetish 12 years ago Report
I know that the reaction has died down, but still I'm compelled to say that you did a fantastic job with this comic.
A deserving reaction of a deserving work. Kudos.
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Posted by Shyguy9 12 years ago Report
Thanks all the same!
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Posted by scootih 11 years ago Report
shyguy this is a awesome comic i luv it :D
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Posted by Shyguy9 11 years ago Report
Thanks.
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Posted by Sunkissedlover 9 years ago Report
I have always enjoyed this ending so much, and preferred it to the other one.
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Posted by Jujubean3157 8 years ago Report
wish you added a part where the mother is calling for her child.
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Posted by dousernamesmatter 8 years ago Report
Kid shouldn't have talked to a stranger. Simple as that.
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Posted by Slimshod 7 years ago Report
Whoa that was different. Nicely done dude. I liked how you stuck with it to the end. Not many of these situations even in unwilling vore circles.
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Posted by Undernom 6 years ago Report
I still love this comic~
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Posted by z3d 5 years ago Report
Even though this is years old, this is still one of my personal favorites to read from time to time. The uncaring nature Sophie has when eating Collin was amazing and shows just how much she treats others as food than people. Does make me wonder if you will ever make this again, or might one day make a comic which is an aftermath to this by having work-off and later disposing of what remains to show just how little value he had to her other than free food to snatch
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Posted by IndigoImp 1 year ago Report
Jeez, this is still really, really sad. I wish I could appreciate it like other people do but the whole concept just gets me really, really down.
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Posted by Shyguy9 1 year ago Report
I would argue that that is its own form of appreciation.
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Posted by IndigoImp 1 year ago Report
Yeah I definetely think the ability to elicit such emotion is indicative of the effectiveness of a piece of art. That being said I still wish I hadnt seen it, i think this piece specifically has rewired my whole brain so that all vore is just sad to me now lol. No idea how that works.
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Posted by AdrianIlliovici 1 year ago Report
I actually love this ending alot more than the alternative one, and I like to believe *THIS* is the canon ending.
Sorry if I sound evil here, but I absolutely love when vore preds are absolutely unapologetic and have absolutely 0 morals. Even when it comes to voring kids.
The only thing I think would've made this ending better is if we REALLY saw just how little of a shit Sophie gave about the kid, and just took a shit right on his shoes and socks.
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